Giving birth in Canada as tourist

[Buletruck]

There’s always that potential. The TRV isn’t a visa....it simply allows you to travel to Canada and apply for permission to enter. CBSA has ultimate say over who and how long they can enter. If they don’t feel you are genuine, they can refuse you entry.
Does this have anything to do with giving birth in Canada or is it just a random question?

 

[Buletruck]

Income earned outside of Canada as a non resident isn’t taxable. The issue is for example, if the child has citizenship, never sets foot in Canada, gets to be 85 and needs extensive health care, they receive it but haven’t contributed. This is why so many European countries have dropped birthright citizenship. It’s a burden in the economy with potentially no benefit to Canada other than convenience.
Immigration isn’t birthright citizenship and can’t be compared.

 

[jddd]

Income earned outside of Canada as a non resident isn’t taxable. The issue is for example, if the child has citizenship, never sets foot in Canada, gets to be 85 and needs extensive health care, they receive it but haven’t contributed. This is why so many European countries have dropped birthright citizenship. It’s a burden in the economy with potentially no benefit to Canada other than convenience.
Immigration isn’t birthright citizenship and can’t be compared.

To add to this, there are those who give birth here then go back to their home country. Once their children are ready for university they send them back here to access domestic fees which are heavily subsidized by taxpayers. Why should those people be able to access that when they have not contributed a single cent?

 

[BelgradianDama]

In that case child will have no child benefits. But I understand the point, and it is minus. But then again you can have Canadian/immigrant who doesn't work, sponsors his partner, they both don't work and don't pay taxes and they are using all the goods. It's again no benefit for Canada.
And also if you calculate how much tourist pays (it's minimum 10000$ if the child is not covered) it's like few years of paying taxes with minimal salary

 

[jddd]

In that case child will have no child benefits. But I understand the point, and it is minus. But then again you can have Canadian/immigrant who doesn't work, sponsors his partner, they both don't work and don't pay taxes and they are using all the goods. It's again no benefit for Canada.
And also if you calculate how much tourist pays (it's minimum 10000$ if the child is not covered) it's like few years of paying taxes with minimal salary

That does not make sense. What do you mean by the child will have no benefits? Are you talking about the Canada Child Benefit? So what? Even Canadian children who do not live in the country are not eligible for that. Again, why the heck should children who do not live in Canada get that? They are not paying into the tax base!

If a Canadian/PR cannot prove that he or she is able to support his or her spouse without needing welfare, the sponsorship will fail. If one does go through and goes on welfare then the sponsor is on the hook for it.

Paying $10000 to give birth for a tourist does not give any kind of benefit to Canada. The tourist paid the costs of delivery to the hospital. It does not go to Canada.

 

[BelgradianDama]

Btw, I suppose that most of the people coming to Canada to give birth are more oriented to move th

That does not make sense. What do you mean by the child will have no benefits?

If a Canadian/PR cannot prove that he or she is able to support his or her spouse without needing welfare, the sponsorship will fail. If one does go through and goes on welfare then the sponsor is on the hook for it.

Paying $10000 to give birth for a tourist does not give any kind of benefit to Canada. The tourist paid the costs of delivery to the hospital. It does not go to Canada.

Are you sure about that? Cos we just finished sponsorship process and I remember information stating that you don't need proof of income in case of sponsoring wife and children

 

[jddd]

Btw, I suppose that most of the people coming to Canada to give birth are more oriented to move th

Are you sure about that? Cos we just finished sponsorship process and I remember information stating that you don't need proof of income in case of sponsoring wife and children

People who give birth in Canada are not more oriented to move here because they do not have status and cannot access the perks. (Visitors of course not PR or citizens)

Yes I’m sure. Though there is no LICO, there is a reason why IRCC still asks for the NOA. It is to ensure the sponsor has been working. If the sponsor has not been working then the savings MUST be substantial and there must be a realistic plan on how to get a job. Canada is not stupid.

 

[BelgradianDama]

People who give birth in Canada are not more oriented to move here because they do not have status and cannot access the perks.

Yes I’m sure. Though there is no LICO, there is a reason why IRCC still asks for the NOA. It is to ensure the sponsor has been working. If the sponsor has not been working then the savings MUST be substantial and there must be a realistic plan on how to get a job. Canada is not stupid.

Btw, read through the earlier messages to see why we started topic about child benefits.

Maybe. We submitted everything, including proof of income and savings, that's why I cannot say I'm 100% sure, but I do remember seeing information I told about on official site

 

[jddd]

Btw, read through the earlier messages to see why we started topic about child benefits.

Maybe. We submitted everything, including proof of income and savings, that's why I cannot say I'm 100% sure, but I do remember seeing information I told about on official site

You’re talking about LICO. That is one of the things spousal sponsorship is exempt from. But it still has to make sense. IRCC must understand how the couple/family plan to survive here.

I am extremely familiar with the official website and the requirements as I need to be for my occupation.

 

[Buletruck]

And if you don’t have a job or meet LICO, you won’t be sponsoring any parents.

 

[canuck78]

What's the possibility on arrival that CBSA can deny people who don't have a valid reason for their visit ?
Even if holding a TRV ?

Yes people get refused daily and are sent on the next plane home. Primary reasons are if you are suspected to be planning on working while visiting Canada and if you don't have the funds to support yourself in Canada. If tou do arrive and are pregnant you can be asked to provide insurance coverage or ebough savings to cover any medical situation.

 

[captainarabiia]

There’s always that potential. The TRV isn’t a visa....it simply allows you to travel to Canada and apply for permission to enter. CBSA has ultimate say over who and how long they can enter. If they don’t feel you are genuine, they can refuse you entry.
Does this have anything to do with giving birth in Canada or is it just a random question?

Just commenting on a poster who got TRV awhile back and is looking to come to Canada for (maybe) giving birth.

 

[Rishi0235]

Plan on it costing at least $8,000. However the costs could be much much higher if there are any complications. You should have at least $10,000 set aside to cover the costs - $25,000 would be better. Understand that if there are complications - the costs could sky-rocket to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Hi scylla please can you tell me after baby birth canadian government

 

[scylla]

Hi scylla please can you tell me after baby birth canadian government

It's not clear what you are asking.

 

[Rishi0235]

Hi scylla please can you tell me after baby birth canadian government

Hi scylla please can you tell me after baby birth canadian government give a citizenships to baby birth for tourist
I hear that canadaian govt should change a law for baby birth citizenships