give the "TEF: Test d’évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
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I took both the IELTS and the TEF last year in preparation for my CEC application (I had wrongly assumed I would have a better shot of obtaining my PR if I proved I could speak both English and French). Turns out in the end my application was rejected because the CEC cap was reached by people who applied only a couple of weeks before I did, oh well. At least I got +20 something extra points on my EE profile.
Anyway, for anyone who's got any experience taking the DELF/DALF (you sign up to take the exam that corresponds to your level of French, ranging from A1 to C2), the TEF is only one exam regardless of your level of French. So all sections of the exam start out very easy and then get more and more difficult. I imagine getting the basic questions right is an easy win and would grant you a few extra EE points, but bear in mind that getting high scores in all sections would be impossible if you're not already an intermediate/advanced learner of French. If you're like me and love the Québécois accent but find it a little tougher to understand than standard European French you're in luck since the listening section has French people speaking.
Overall, I would only recommend people who are already a bit fluent in French to take the TEF though, mostly because it is very expensive and because it only grants you an extra 26 points if you get all top marks.
I took both the IELTS and the TEF last year in preparation for my CEC application (I had wrongly assumed I would have a better shot of obtaining my PR if I proved I could speak both English and French). Turns out in the end my application was rejected because the CEC cap was reached by people who applied only a couple of weeks before I did, oh well. At least I got +20 something extra points on my EE profile.
Anyway, for anyone who's got any experience taking the DELF/DALF (you sign up to take the exam that corresponds to your level of French, ranging from A1 to C2), the TEF is only one exam regardless of your level of French. So all sections of the exam start out very easy and then get more and more difficult. I imagine getting the basic questions right is an easy win and would grant you a few extra EE points, but bear in mind that getting high scores in all sections would be impossible if you're not already an intermediate/advanced learner of French. If you're like me and love the Québécois accent but find it a little tougher to understand than standard European French you're in luck since the listening section has French people speaking.
Overall, I would only recommend people who are already a bit fluent in French to take the TEF though, mostly because it is very expensive and because it only grants you an extra 26 points if you get all top marks.
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
I have started studying for TEF recently.Had previously done Delf B1and done oretty good. Long time ago tho!
Im in the same boat add you are. My CEC package came back becoz i applied a week later than the cap got reached.
Francaise de France accent will totally save my day. Thnx for that! I was pretty worried becoz of that.
+1pour repondre! Merci beaucoup!!
I have started studying for TEF recently.Had previously done Delf B1and done oretty good. Long time ago tho!
Im in the same boat add you are. My CEC package came back becoz i applied a week later than the cap got reached.
Francaise de France accent will totally save my day. Thnx for that! I was pretty worried becoz of that.
+1pour repondre! Merci beaucoup!!
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
If you did pretty well on the DELF B1 then you should definitely be able to prepare and do reasonably well on the TEF too (and get some good extra EE points!). I didn't prepare that much for the exam itself (I didn't look for any extra information on it other than the guide you get when you enroll and pay for it) but I did borrow a few novels in French from the library to read during the weeks before the exam date and made sure to listen to podcasts in French (especially those that have not only one person talking but multiple people having conversations).
The reading, writing, and listening sections were pretty standard (like I said, questions went from easy to more difficult). Writing had you write a letter at the end, I can't recall what it was about but I remember I changed my mind about how to structure it after I was already halfway through it and went back to restructure it, which I probably shouldn't have done because I ended up not having enough time to finish it.
I do remember exactly what speaking was about though. It basically had two parts. In the first one they showed me a picture of a cooking classes ad they took from a newspaper and then asked me to pretend I was calling the number on the ad to ask for more information on the classes and I had 10 minutes for that (I basically kept on asking more and more questions and cracking jokes until the time ran out). In the second part I was shown yet another newspaper ad but this one was about a dog adoption centre, then one of the interviewers acted like she was my friend and she really loved cats but disliked dogs, and I was supposed to try and convince her to adopt a dog and had 20 minutes to do so. So it does depend a lot on the subject you're given to talk about, you might get a topic you know nothing about and then you will have to improvise or go a little off-topic, but I think the key here is just keeping the conversation alive until the time runs out.
Si t'as d'autres questions pour préparer le TEF, hésite pas hein... ben en tout cas je connais pas mal de podcasts que j'essaie d'écouter régulièrement et je trouve ça aide à habituer l'oreille.
If you did pretty well on the DELF B1 then you should definitely be able to prepare and do reasonably well on the TEF too (and get some good extra EE points!). I didn't prepare that much for the exam itself (I didn't look for any extra information on it other than the guide you get when you enroll and pay for it) but I did borrow a few novels in French from the library to read during the weeks before the exam date and made sure to listen to podcasts in French (especially those that have not only one person talking but multiple people having conversations).
The reading, writing, and listening sections were pretty standard (like I said, questions went from easy to more difficult). Writing had you write a letter at the end, I can't recall what it was about but I remember I changed my mind about how to structure it after I was already halfway through it and went back to restructure it, which I probably shouldn't have done because I ended up not having enough time to finish it.
I do remember exactly what speaking was about though. It basically had two parts. In the first one they showed me a picture of a cooking classes ad they took from a newspaper and then asked me to pretend I was calling the number on the ad to ask for more information on the classes and I had 10 minutes for that (I basically kept on asking more and more questions and cracking jokes until the time ran out). In the second part I was shown yet another newspaper ad but this one was about a dog adoption centre, then one of the interviewers acted like she was my friend and she really loved cats but disliked dogs, and I was supposed to try and convince her to adopt a dog and had 20 minutes to do so. So it does depend a lot on the subject you're given to talk about, you might get a topic you know nothing about and then you will have to improvise or go a little off-topic, but I think the key here is just keeping the conversation alive until the time runs out.
Si t'as d'autres questions pour préparer le TEF, hésite pas hein... ben en tout cas je connais pas mal de podcasts que j'essaie d'écouter régulièrement et je trouve ça aide à habituer l'oreille.
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
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Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
So to get the max 24 points for French if you're taking the TEF you'd need to get:
371+ in speaking (out of 450)
298+ in listening (out of 360)
248+ in reading (out of 300)
371+ in writing (out of 450)
I just dug out the document I got last summer explaining the different sections of the exam:
That info is here (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp) and here (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/language-testing.asp).MedZed said:
So to get the max 24 points for French if you're taking the TEF you'd need to get:
371+ in speaking (out of 450)
298+ in listening (out of 360)
248+ in reading (out of 300)
371+ in writing (out of 450)
I just dug out the document I got last summer explaining the different sections of the exam:
As you can see it's really weird because unlike IELTS or CELPIP every section of the exam has a different max score. For listening and reading, I'm not sure if every question in those sections is worth the same or if more difficult questions are worth more than the easier ones. I'd be inclined to think it's the former since both the max scores for listening and reading are divisible by the number of questions in each section (max score for listening is 360 and there are 60 listening questions, so each question is probably worth 6 points; similarly, max score for reading is 300 and there are 50 questions, so each question is probably also worth 6 points).
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
I especially like Caroline Dublanche's Libre Antenne (http://www.europe1.fr/emissions/libre-antenne) because there's always at least two people having a conversation there, and even though it's a radio show she doesn't play much music. People call her to tell her about problems they have (she's a psychologist) and she gives them advice, and often some more people call to chime in and offer more advice or share their own opinions/views on the subject.
I also like this one a lot (http://www.gameblog.fr/podcasts.php). It's just a bunch of geeks talking about video games in French
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I listen to Europe1 podcasts a lot, you can find them here: http://www.europe1.fr/podcasts.MMCanada2014 said:
I especially like Caroline Dublanche's Libre Antenne (http://www.europe1.fr/emissions/libre-antenne) because there's always at least two people having a conversation there, and even though it's a radio show she doesn't play much music. People call her to tell her about problems they have (she's a psychologist) and she gives them advice, and often some more people call to chime in and offer more advice or share their own opinions/views on the subject.
I also like this one a lot (http://www.gameblog.fr/podcasts.php). It's just a bunch of geeks talking about video games in French
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Thxpixelfrontier said:I listen to Europe1 podcasts a lot, you can find them here: http://www.europe1.fr/podcasts.
I especially like Caroline Dublanche's Libre Antenne (http://www.europe1.fr/emissions/libre-antenne) because there's always at least two people having a conversation there, and even though it's a radio show she doesn't play much music. People call her to tell her about problems they have (she's a psychologist) and she gives them advice, and often some more people call to chime in and offer more advice or share their own opinions/views on the subject.
I also like this one a lot (http://www.gameblog.fr/podcasts.php). It's just a bunch of geeks talking about video games in French
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
Bonjour
am planning to take DELF test for A2 level in june or later months according to the availability of dates in my home country.. So now can someone who has an idea of DELF test suggest me whether CLB of 5 for the second language as french gain me 4 points under FSWP as mentioned on the official website of CIC and whether DELF supports me in gaining points or should I take any other tests other than DELF. am not aware of the level to be taken for the test to gain 4 points as I didn't come across on the CIC link. So guys who have an idea, please reply..
Je vous remerci..
Bonjour
am planning to take DELF test for A2 level in june or later months according to the availability of dates in my home country.. So now can someone who has an idea of DELF test suggest me whether CLB of 5 for the second language as french gain me 4 points under FSWP as mentioned on the official website of CIC and whether DELF supports me in gaining points or should I take any other tests other than DELF. am not aware of the level to be taken for the test to gain 4 points as I didn't come across on the CIC link. So guys who have an idea, please reply..
Je vous remerci..
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
DELF/DALF will give you no points at all, only French test they accept for EE is TEF.
DELF/DALF will give you no points at all, only French test they accept for EE is TEF.
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
Thanks pixelfrontier.. can u please tell me if I can take the TEF once am done with A2 level or should it be B1 or B2 completed to take the TEF to achieve NCLC 5 atleast for french as second language for EE ??pixelfrontier said:
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
delf exam - CLB Levels.
A1 - 1,2
A2 - 3,4
B1 - 5,6
B2- 7,8
C1 - 9+
The thing is, Delf has very distinch exams for each CLB level set. TEF just has one. Like ielts. So the dustinxtion is very hard.
so if you want atleast a 5 score in the very first attempt, id suggest study for B2 in delf.
delf exam - CLB Levels.
A1 - 1,2
A2 - 3,4
B1 - 5,6
B2- 7,8
C1 - 9+
The thing is, Delf has very distinch exams for each CLB level set. TEF just has one. Like ielts. So the dustinxtion is very hard.
so if you want atleast a 5 score in the very first attempt, id suggest study for B2 in delf.
Re: give the "TEF: Test d'évaluation de français" - upto additional 26 points
Thanks
Oh.. This gave me a clear picture of how DELF is evaluated on basis of CLB although I had an idea of evaluation of scores for each of the four sections is given for french language.. But thanks the_lion, I had some idea of what to do now as was confused until your post.. As you mentioned DELF is of different levels and each test has to be taken, however, let me quote my situation. I started learning the language now and after the completion of each level after a long way, I can attend the exam DELF A1, A2, B1, B2 individually.. In my home country the fee of A1, A2, B1, B2 is the same as fee of TEF exam for a single attempt. So I think a step by step test gives me more confidence and costs the same as one attempt of TEF a bit more or less. I don't want to say you were wrong with your post and surely agree with you. Now can you please tell me if I can end up learning B1 confident as this takes me atleast 3 to 4 months and if I can do good with Delf b1 as it was of CLB 5 or 6 or better that I go with TEF once.. ??the_lion said:
Thanks