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Getting Visitor Visa for Physically Challenged - Please advise

nskatcv

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Hi everyone,

Me and my spouse are in USA right now on H1B. We recently got our Canadian PR (me being the primary applicant). We haven't, but plan to move to Canada in near future.

This question pertains to my spouse's sister (my sister-in-law) who is physically challenged (paralyzed waist down with other terminal complications and on wheelchair). We would like to bring her to Canada for a short visit, purely for sightseeing. For her condition, she needs two people to always accompany her to help her sit, and move in/out of wheelchair. Her mother and brother (my in-laws) provide this help for her at our home country, India.

Now, if we are going to ask for a visa for her, we would need to ask for a visa for her mother and brother, which brings me to this forum looking for the best way forward. Being aware of the fact, especially the brother could be seen as intended immigrant, because he is divorced and working in a private company. Just for info, their father is retired from service.

Any suggestions regarding the feasibility of the whole visa exercise, and guidance on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Wish you all good luck for your respective pursuits.
 

scylla

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Have they traveled before to countries requiring visas (e.g. US, UK, Europe)?

How long a visit are they planning?
 

nskatcv

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scylla said:
Have they traveled before to countries requiring visas (e.g. US, UK, Europe)?

How long a visit are they planning?
Thanks for replying.

No, they haven't visited abroad ever, anywhere.

Visit is supposed to be short, good enough for sightseeing. Few weeks, a month may be, not important.
 

Bryanna

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Hi,

Quite honestly, it's going to be very difficult for your sister-in-law to get a Canada TRV. With her medical condition and terminal complications, it could appear that she is likely to put an excessive demand on Canada's healthcare even if she buys travel medical insurance.

As for your brother-in-law (and as you have been through the PR process yourself), being divorced/working in a private company will not be considered as a potential immigrant.... but as a potential overstayer if he is unable to prove strong reasons to return to India.

You can still try if you wish.... your sister-in-law must demonstrate very strong ties to India: Employment/business, property, financial, family ties, previous travel history (in her current medical condition).

Your mom-in-law and brother-in-law must also demonstrate their ties


Cheers
 

nskatcv

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Bryanna said:
Hi,

Quite honestly, it's going to be very difficult for your sister-in-law to get a Canada TRV. With her medical condition and terminal complications, it could appear that she is likely to put an excessive demand on Canada's healthcare even if she buys travel medical insurance.
Thanks for the reply. Being the unmarried daughter of an ex-serviceman, she is getting free medical aid from the Central govt. I was hoping this could be seen as a strong point in her favor, because getting medical aid in Canada would still need some expenditure in the form of insurance and other things. She must get back to India to avail those kind of medical facilities.

As for your brother-in-law (and as you have been through the PR process yourself), being divorced/working in a private company will not be considered as a potential immigrant.... but as a potential overstayer if he is unable to prove strong reasons to return to India.
That seems correct. So I guess that makes it even more difficult for him especially when his earnings are on the lower side. His reason to return to Canada is predominantly to accompany his ailing sister. Although the father is also there, but he is the major physical and financial support to her.

You can still try if you wish.... your sister-in-law must demonstrate very strong ties to India: Employment/business, property, financial, family ties, previous travel history (in her current medical condition).
As for her ties, she is unemployed (because bed-ridden), no-business, no property, no income, no travel history. Her tie is only the social and medical support she is going to get in India. And that is because of the govt. free medical benefits, and the physical support of the family.

In light of this new information, what is your opinion regarding this. Also, if I decide to go for it, how long must we have lived in Canada, before we invite them. I mean how soon can we do it.

Thanks
 

Bryanna

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Your sister-in-law is in an unfortunate and difficult situation.

Being a beneficiary of the CGHS (Central Government Health Scheme) is not a strong tie/strong reason to return to India. Based on your post, your sister-in-law is in not in a physical/medical condition to travel.

Would an insurance company provide insurance coverage for any emergencies when she is in Canada? And to what extent? Personally, I think this is not possible.

Also, she needs two persons to assist her at all times.... which means the family ties to Canada would be stronger than those to India. Thus, increasing the chances of TRV refusals for all applicants.

I would strongly suggest that you do NOT apply for your sister-in-law.

Apart from the difficulties she faces in her present medical condition, you do not want to build her hopes by applying for a Canada TRV.... only to have these hopes crushed by a TRV refusal. IMO, it could affect her psychologically
 

nskatcv

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Bryanna said:
Your sister-in-law is in an unfortunate and difficult situation.

Being a beneficiary of the CGHS (Central Government Health Scheme) is not a strong tie/strong reason to return to India. Based on your post, your sister-in-law is in not in a physical/medical condition to travel.
She is paralyzed waist down, so although she needs two people to get her to the wheelchair and back, but once on wheelchair, she is alright. And I guess that is Ok for travel, unless there is some restriction from Canadian side that discourages such cases.

Would an insurance company provide insurance coverage for any emergencies when she is in Canada? And to what extent? Personally, I think this is not possible.
Haven't thought about this, but a good point to note.

Also, she needs two persons to assist her at all times.... which means the family ties to Canada would be stronger than those to India. Thus, increasing the chances of TRV refusals for all applicants.

I would strongly suggest that you do NOT apply for your sister-in-law.

Apart from the difficulties she faces in her present medical condition, you do not want to build her hopes by applying for a Canada TRV.... only to have these hopes crushed by a TRV refusal. IMO, it could affect her psychologically
Quite disappointing, but I appreciate your honest and clear opinion.

Regards
 

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So are you going to apply? If you do, keep us inform... I am in the same situation
 

nskatcv

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paras1991 said:
So are you going to apply? If you do, keep us inform... I am in the same situation
Haven't decided yet. But if I do, will surely come back on this thread to inform the outcome.

One thing that left unanswered is how long must we have lived in Canada before we invite them, if we decide to try it. I mean how soon can we do it.

Thanks
 

Bryanna

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One thing that left unanswered is how long must we have lived in Canada before we invite them, if we decide to try it. I mean how soon can we do it.
Anytime after you start living in Canada. Your invitation letter can state you are providing accommodation + you will take care of their travel/living expenses during their visit
 

nskatcv

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Bryanna said:
Anytime after you start living in Canada. Your invitation letter can state you are providing accommodation + you will take care of their travel/living expenses during their visit
Thanks.

+1 to both Scylla and Bryanna.
 

Bryanna

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The possibility of TRV refusals could be higher if your mom-in-law, brother-in-law and sister-in-law apply together. To minimize this, you may want to consider:
1. Applying first only for your mom-in-law. Her strong ties (family ties, property or land ownership/lease agreement, financial situation)

2. Apply for your BIL after your MIL gets a TRV. His strong ties (employment and other ties)

3. Apply for your SIL last