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Getting Married--Visa Extension to Gather Funds and Paperwork for PR Application

Caroliner1978

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Hi all!

My American fiance and I will be getting married in 8 days (March 20th, 2016)! He is currently here on the standard 6-month-no-stamp-in-passport visitor's visa, which will expire on April 27th, 2016. We will be applying to extend this visitor' s visa for 6 months, right after we get married (more than 30 days before his current visa expires). We need time to gather all the paperwork and fees for the PR application.

From what I have read online, it seems like this is a very common reason for newly married couples to extend a visitor's visa. It also seems like almost everyone in this situation gets approval with no issues (so long as there are no errors on the application, or missing supporting documentation). I am, however, still nervous about him being denied the extension (if denied, he would have to return to the US, likely for a minimum of 6 months--how could such a thing not cause anxiety?!).

I have a letter from my employer, and 5 months worth of paystubs to show that I can support him through the extension. I only have a gross income of about $2000 a month, and I'm not sure if CIC would consider this sufficient. If necessary, I can have my step-dad write a letter stating he will help us out financially, if we need it (although, my fiance was here before for 6 months, and we survived on my income, and he's been here for 4 months now, and we're surviving on my income).

The thing that worries me the most, is that CIC will not be satisfied that my fiance will leave once his visa extension expires, and so will not grant the extension based on that (which is kind of ridiculous, seeing as he really has no intention of leaving--we're going to file the PR). However, if for some reason, we were unable to start the PR before he fell out of status, he would, albeit reluctantly, return to the US.

My fiance works in the US on an "on-call" basis. When he visits me here, he simply tells his company to switch him to the "not available" list, so they do not call him for jobs. When he returns, he puts himself back on the "available" list, so they will start calling him for work again. Very convenient for his visits, but doesn't exactly show a strong employment tie in the US.

As for his living arrangements, my fiance has lived with his roommate for over 10 years. He comes to stay with me, then returns to live with his roommate (who has obliged this annoying back-and-forth scenario for 2 years now). Again, very convenient for my fiance's visits here, but not a strong living tie to the US.

So, my question is: What and how can we submit something that will convince CIC that he will leave before losing his visitor status (or, as the case will actually be, we will file the PR before he loses his visitor status), so that they will grant the visa extension?


Thanks in advance for any advice and insight!! We need this extension!!
 

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Im not an expert on this, but if you are worry about the extension refusal, how about he goes back to the US for a month and then re entre as a tourist for another 6 months.
Also, sponsoring from outland is faster than inland if you want to take this into consideration.
Good luck though.
 

Caroliner1978

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Hah! We just discussed him returning to the US for a month or two as maybe being the best option--so long as they don't make a fuss at the border about him returning to Canada so soon... As for Inland/Outland, we have considered both options to a ridiculous degree... And we've decided that the most important factors to us are that we can be together and he can get a work permit as soon as possible. So... Inland is going to be the winner for us (even though we know it is going to take years to actually be fully completed).
 

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You might want to think about this a little bit more. It takes at least 4 months to get the work permit. Many US citizens are getting PR in less than 4 months. If you don't believe this, look at my timeline, and some of the recent timelines in the US applicants thread.

Now, there's never a guarantee, it's just random luck, but the best decision we made was to withdraw my husband's inland application.

As for the renewal, it's probably less stressful just to renew online. I think you have enough evidence just with him having a place to live and a job in the US. The other details don't matter, you don't have to tell them every detail of his job, just say he took leave for a few months but has to go back at some point, or something along those lines.
 

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Caroliner1978 said:
My American fiance and I will be getting married in 8 days (March 20th, 2016)! He is currently here on the standard 6-month-no-stamp-in-passport visitor's visa, which will expire on April 27th, 2016. We will be applying to extend this visitor' s visa for 6 months, right after we get married (more than 30 days before his current visa expires). We need time to gather all the paperwork and fees for the PR application.

If necessary, I can have my step-dad write a letter stating he will help us out financially, if we need it (although, my fiance was here before for 6 months, and we survived on my income, and he's been here for 4 months now, and we're surviving on my income).

So, my question is: What and how can we submit something that will convince CIC that he will leave before losing his visitor status (or, as the case will actually be, we will file the PR before he loses his visitor status), so that they will grant the visa extension?[/u]
To clarify, he doesn't have a visitor visa; he has visitor status. CIC recommends 30 days but it is not a requirement. He can apply up unail his status expires.

It wouldn't hurt to have your stepfather write a letter of support as well.

Pay the PR fees in full and include a copy of the receipt in the extension app.


Caroliner1978 said:
Hah! We just discussed him returning to the US for a month or two as maybe being the best option--so long as they don't make a fuss at the border about him returning to Canada so soon... As for Inland/Outland, we have considered both options to a ridiculous degree... And we've decided that the most important factors to us are that we can be together and he can get a work permit as soon as possible. So... Inland is going to be the winner for us (even though we know it is going to take years to actually be fully completed).
It is much safer to apply online than to cross the border.

As said above, seriously consider an outland app. He can be in Canada while the outland app processes.
 

Vanityfair

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Hi guys,

Just wondering for an (outland app and the applicant is from a visa required country)
If purpose of visit is to visit spouse and explains that she would want to wait for the PR outcome while she is visiting (would just continue to request for extension) is this reason acceptable for the immigration guys? Thanks
 

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Vanityfair said:
Just wondering for an (outland app and the applicant is from a visa required country)
If purpose of visit is to visit spouse and explains that she would want to wait for the PR outcome while she is visiting (would just continue to request for extension) is this reason acceptable for the immigration guys? Thanks
The chances of being approved for a TRV are very low. CIC wants to see that a person has stronger ties to their home country than they do to Canada; with a spouse in Canada and a PR app in process, it is very hard to prove that.
 

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canuck_in_uk said:
The chances of being approved for a TRV are very low. CIC wants to see that a person has stronger ties to their home country than they do to Canada; with a spouse in Canada and a PR app in process, it is very hard to prove that.
Canuck thanks for the input. How about a job and kids under your care? Can this act as ties in an event one would like to apply for a TRV while the PR application process in underway.
 
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My wife was approved for a TRV, and she was married and had a PR application pending at the time of our application (see signature). She got a multiple entry TRV for life of her passport, when she landed they allowed her to stay for 6 mths.

It's difficult yes to get approved for a TRV as a spouse, but the problem is most people are unable to prove they have stronger ties back home. Combined with the fact that most applicants from non visa exempt countries don't have travel histories or lots of money, and it can be difficult. However, its definitely not as hard as it's made out to be. My wife is proof of that.