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The Patels I have heard own most of the motel chains in the USA and a lot of restaurants. May be Mr.Patel from Canada supplies to them :cool::p
Have you heard about the Canadian water smuggling from BC to Washington :D?

 
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60% of all motel business to be precise. I was recently talking to someone who makes $2.5+/yr through motels alone. The economics, dedication and the unwillingness of Americans (and Canadians) to grind at these jobs have made them filthy rich. This is also true for GTA, where garbage management business is dominated by Punjabi folks too.

Very simple business model, buy a business like this: https://www.loopnet.com/biz/Business-Opportunity/priced-to-sell/2083235/ grind 70 hours/week for 2 years (they don't hire anyone here), get a cashflow and do a CMBS loan for another motel/liquor store/etc. They do it 3-4 times and then they retire. If they don't have money, they pool together in partnership of 2 or 3, which ensures compliance for CMBS and faster growth.

A very good example of opportunities for someone looking for it here.
Lean operation does not even begin to describe the efficiency they pull off. Its genius actually. Because its a motel you can live in your business place! It reduces living expenses immensely.
 
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Thanks for the explanation about the TN visa. It is definitely a useful thing to have. I also just know that there is a "loop hole" in the system hahaha, some people say you need to switch to H1B first before applying for a GC.
The TN-1 is a renewable work VISA for Canadians and it must be renewed every 3 years to maintain legal status in the US. However, the TN-1 is a nonimmigrant VISA. Which means if you attempt to apply for a green card while on a TN-1 VISA, you run the risk of being ineligible for renewal. The average wait time for a GC application is 18-24 mos, which means its theoretically possible to get approved for a GC while legally under TN-1 provided you properly time your GC application, and the sponsor is willing.

The main purpose of the TN-1 for would be immigrants to the US is to make it more appealing for employers to hire you over other candidates outside of the US. For example, you have 2 applicants one is Canadian, and the other is Indian. In order for the employer to hire the Indian, they have to go through the H1B process which is dependent on the (1) lottery and (2) processing time, if you are lucky then the whole process takes 6 months, which means from the employer's perspective they have 6 months of having a position unfilled until the person can legally come to the United States - if he/she is unlucky in the H1B draw then it could take years before they can bring him to the US, compare this with a Canadian applicant wherein, they can just hire the person immediately and have him start working today - something the Indian can't legally do. If they do decide to do the H1B for the Canadian, they can do so while the Canadian is already working in the US, so a situation where an H1B wait time is 1 year, 2 years or even several years is far more tolerable for a Canadian applicant than an Indian applicant.

I guess I should phrase my question better. I would cling to my Canadian PR and Canadian citizenship before I get GC, but let's say after one year in Canada, I can somehow apply for a GC directly, should I directly go to the US with my GC and forgo my Canada PR before getting a Canadian citizenship? Or should I wait for another two years in Canada to get Canadian citizenship before going to the US? What's the benefit of US and Canada dual citizenship?

I definitely agree with your second paragraph, but a lot of this depends on luck as well. Let's see what's the best pathway.
It only takes 3 years for you to be eligible for a Canadian citizenship, if you found out you can place a successful GC application after a year in Canada, then it implies you have NOT applied yet, if you're applying for a GC outside of the US then it would take 18-24mos BEFORE you actually get your green card. At that point I'd question, why won't you just wait the last few months to apply for a Canadian citizenship?

Unless you plan to own properties on both side of the border, and you're decided to settle in the US, then I see NO benefit of having a dual US/Canada citizenship - at least not one that is worth the hassle for. However, what I'm pointing out is the period between when you are a non-resident alien in the US up to the point when you are a citizen. If you take TN-1 -> H1B -> GC -> Citizenship route, the process could easily take 10 years. During that period you have certain liberties like a Canadian passport, that can take you virtually anywhere you'd want to travel VISA-free. And again something might go awry during that 10-year period, in which case having Canadian citizenship gives you a guarantee that you won't have to go back to your original home country - the last part is the situation that most immigrants are avoiding.
 
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Other than taxes, is there anything else I should take note of? Is it beneficial to hold on to my Canada PR and convert it to citizen? Or should I forgo it let's say if I get a Phd in decent schools in the US or get a GC? I guess Canadian citizenship is great for the social nets - free healthcare & retirement, but I don't know whether I just want to hold on to it because of sunk cost.
It's beneficial if you're not ready to go back to home country just yet, and want to try going to the US. Forgo it if you're ready to take the risk of being sent back to your home country. I'm not sure where you're from, maybe you're from the EU or UK or Australia, etc., and there's no real drawback if you go back home, but that's what your risking. Getting the Canadian citizenship isn't about the benefits of being Canadian on top of being an American (if you're successful), it's about preventing you from being forced to go back to your home country when the US immigration doesn't go your way.
 

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The Patels I have heard own most of the motel chains in the USA and a lot of restaurants. May be Mr.Patel from Canada supplies to them :cool::p
They own most motels in the US. More importantly, they have many illegal family members (Mother, brother, sister, extended family) that they brought via tourist visa and they all work in their motels. Those folks never leave the US.
 
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They own most motels in the US. More importantly, they have many illegal family members (Mother, brother, sister, extended family) that they brought via tourist visa and they all work in their motels. Those folks never leave the US.
Yes I have seen similar business models in Australia from Indians (I’m not sure if they are Patels too) and other South East Asians. In Melbourne we had 2 MBA classmates who used to sidebar manage cleaning business for homes and offices. It was run with similar friends and extended family employees, cash payments, ability to manipulate taxes some which are passed on as discount to customers etc. When one steps into that world a lot possibilities open up.
 
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I'm in the Toronto union GO station, a group of students dancing and screaming about some major event in India