Their platform is offering premium processing to deal with the backlog. They were the ones who created the express entry system and in 2019 debate, they sounded way more in favor of economic immigration than liberals, who prefer regional/noc based systems. I really doubt they would cancel. It might stall more, considering it would mean changing management, and that stalls getting things restarted.
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I’m not defending any group, and I believe nothing will change for us till parties do not win a majority at least. But I guess cancelling apps in 2012 was not that dark and it was not cancelling all pending apps. They cancelled applications submitted before 2008, and an immigration officer did not make a decision on their case by then.
Currently we are dealing with a government that has been halted fsw draws for almost a year without any clear answer or timeline for the future.
Okay got it but what if liberals with a minority more likely that is the same situation, what is the benefit for us because we are still dealing with the same A holes.
Or if liberals win a majority (which is unlikely but not impossible) if that is the case still they can cancel applications which liberals are also famous for (qubec program) because they are trying to make a lot of changes in fsw which I hope they don't do.
If they make changes will it affect applications in process?
Just evaluating different scenarios.
Or if liberals win a majority (which is unlikely but not impossible) if that is the case still they can cancel applications which liberals are also famous for (qubec program) because they are trying to make a lot of changes in fsw which I hope they don't do.
If they make changes will it affect applications in process?
Just evaluating different scenarios.
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"We hear you"
That's all we got after almost two years.
This isn't going to happen overnight. I actually want the liberals to win so they can finish what they started. With a new government comes new ideas; you never know what they've got up their sleeves till things start to unfold.
Whoever wins won't cancel the backlogs though. IRCC is a government institution and as such, it doesn't matter who is in government; they have to process applications that have been accepted albeit it might not be timely. If the libs win, MM will likely continue as IRCC minister and thus, finish the process timely.
Exactly, and their argument for cancellation was plausible - to a certain extent. They argued that the criteria that was used to invite people in 2008 has changed drastically, so they didn't think people that were qualified in 2008 were still qualified in 2012.
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Even if they wanted to they would have to get approval from the courts first. I'm not an expert on this at all but I think it would violate procedural fairness. I don't think pending FSW applicants (I'm one!) should be that concerned.
They could still revamp the program and pull the same arguments out of their ass.
No they passed a law for that, which gives mendicino a lot to say in this. So it basically depends on ministère instruction. If he feels like there’s a need to cancel he will do it.
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The argument then was that the program itself had structural weaknesses that prevented Canada from processing applications in a reasonable time... prior to 2010 it was a first come first serve program with no application limits.
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Really? Can you provide a link for this, I'd like to read more. This is not my understanding (largely based off of reading legal falcon's posts on this topic)
Legislation passed:
In February 2008 the Canadian government amended the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. The amendments granted the Canadian Immigration Minister the authority to take action (issue instructions) such as establishing application intake quotas, new application requirements, and new immigration categories. The changes in this amendment apply only to applications submitted on or after February 28, 2008.
On March 30th, 2012, new legislation was introduced dictating that any application that had not received a positive decision as of March 29th, 2012 would be terminated.
The legislation for this decision was included as a small part of the large annual budget bill, known as “Bill C-38”, which was passed by Parliament.
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https://www.cicnews.com/2012/07/case-federal-skilled-worker-backlog-reduction-071663.html#gs.9limnq
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=702be2e0-dcd1-426d-8e7c-635e2f0e72f2
Trudeau says he won't back down after protesters hurl death threats, racist and sexist slurs
For the second time in a week, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has had a campaign event disrupted by protesters shouting obscenities, uttering death threats against the prime minister and hurling racist and misogynist insults at people of colour and women in his protective detail.
While making a stump speech to promote his party's climate change policies in Cambridge, Ont., Sunday morning, the Liberals were forced to delay Trudeau's appearance for an hour because of the disruptions.
Signs brandished by angry protesters displayed slogans such as "Who benefits from the lock down?" and the "Liberals ruined the country," with one protester shouting through a megaphone decked out with the name; "InfoWars," a U.S.-based far-right conspiracy theory website.
When the event did start, it was disrupted by honking horns and foul and threatening language hurled from a crowd of people -- almost all of whom were unmasked and were not maintaining physical distance from one another.
Asked if he felt he could continue to hold campaign events safely, Trudeau said his message on climate change and vaccination was not one he would walk away from.
"No, I'm not going to back down on a message that Canadians know is the right path forward, and that's why Canadians need to choose to move Canada forward in this pivotal time," Trudeau said.
"First of all, I want to thank the police officers, local and national, who do an amazing job in both keeping people safe and allowing Canadians to express themselves," Trudeau said. "That is what an election is all about. We may disagree with them, and of course, we will always condemn violence and hatred."
"This needs to make us ever more convinced of the importance of the choice in this election. Do we fall into division and hatred and racism and violence, or do we say no."
On Sunday, the Conservative Party tweeted: "The threatening images and behaviour are disgusting. This needs to stop immediately. Canada is better than this."
Watch: Protesters disrupt Trudeau campaign event shouting threats, obscenities:
Trudeau has been dogged by protesters at many of his campaign events. He was forced to cancel a campaign event in Bolton, Ont., Friday night when hundreds of angry protesters showed up at the Liberals' outdoor rally.
Among the protesters of Friday were anti-vaccination activists who shouted vulgarities at Liberal volunteers and carried anti-Trudeau signs and flags scrawled with obscenities. The crowd was frustrated with Trudeau's push to make vaccines mandatory in some settings and his support for provincial vaccine passports to restrict entry into some non-essential businesses.
Video footage from the event shows a handful of people with blue Conservative-branded T-shirts among the unmasked crowd assembled for the protest, which also included a strong contingent of people angry over the federal government's ban on flavours in smoking cessation devices, such as e-cigarettes.
Conservatives ban protesters from volunteering
In response to the behaviour, Conservative candidate Kyle Seeback said that the volunteers from his campaign who attended the protest are no longer welcome on his campaign team.
"My campaign has zero-tolerance for obscenities or threatening behaviour against any candidate," Seeback said.
Speaking at an event in Fredericton on Saturday, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said he is trying to run a positive campaign, and he "strongly condemns any form of harassment" on the campaign trail.
"I expect professionalism, I expect respect. I respect my opponents."
"If there are candidates who don't support it — or any other part of Canada's Recovery Plan — they won't be sitting in the caucus of a future Conservative government," he said.
The statement came just hours after Trudeau called out O'Toole during an event in Cambridge, Ont. for, in his words, not doing enough to condemn "conspiracy theories" from an incumbent Tory candidate.
At a campaign event in Saint-Hyacinthe, Que., earlier in the day, O'Toole was repeatedly pressed about an undated flyer that longtime MP Cheryl Gallant sent before the election to constituents in the eastern Ontario riding of Renfrew–Nipissing–Pembroke.
In the materials, she suggested federal Liberals would pursue a "climate lockdown" and said her constituents should make the upcoming election "a referendum on more lockdowns."
Tories need to crack down on conspiracy theories: Trudeau
Gallant also released a video in June in which she asked: "How long do you think it will take for the Trudeau Liberals to start calling for a climate lockdown?"
Liberals shared a screenshot of Gallant's flyer online Sunday, prompting the Conservative Party to allege that the Liberals have candidates who support "9/11 truther conspiracies."
In a tweet, the party highlighted a 2011 tweet from Toronto Centre Liberal incumbent Marci Ien, in which she said "Loose Change 9-11: An American Coup," a 9/11 conspiracy theory documentary, "really makes you think about what really happened on September 11, 2001."
The tweet came to light in the Toronto Centre byelection last October. Ien, a former journalist, tweeted at the time: "I've spoken often with the families of 9/11 victims and shared their stories as a broadcaster — and I'll also do everything I can as an MP… to help keep Canadians safe from all such tragedies."
O'Toole wouldn't tell reporters if he found Gallant's comments acceptable and instead pivoted to promoting his platform, which includes a plan to fight climate change.
"We're running on a plan to get our country back on its feet, not on things that happened months or years ago," he said.
Shortly after O'Toole's statement was released threatening to turf people from caucus if they didn't support the Conservative climate plan, Gallant tweeted that she is proud to run on the Conservatives' recovery plan platform "in its entirety."
For the second time in a week, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau has had a campaign event disrupted by protesters shouting obscenities, uttering death threats against the prime minister and hurling racist and misogynist insults at people of colour and women in his protective detail.
While making a stump speech to promote his party's climate change policies in Cambridge, Ont., Sunday morning, the Liberals were forced to delay Trudeau's appearance for an hour because of the disruptions.
Signs brandished by angry protesters displayed slogans such as "Who benefits from the lock down?" and the "Liberals ruined the country," with one protester shouting through a megaphone decked out with the name; "InfoWars," a U.S.-based far-right conspiracy theory website.
When the event did start, it was disrupted by honking horns and foul and threatening language hurled from a crowd of people -- almost all of whom were unmasked and were not maintaining physical distance from one another.
Asked if he felt he could continue to hold campaign events safely, Trudeau said his message on climate change and vaccination was not one he would walk away from.
"No, I'm not going to back down on a message that Canadians know is the right path forward, and that's why Canadians need to choose to move Canada forward in this pivotal time," Trudeau said.
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"First of all, I want to thank the police officers, local and national, who do an amazing job in both keeping people safe and allowing Canadians to express themselves," Trudeau said. "That is what an election is all about. We may disagree with them, and of course, we will always condemn violence and hatred."
"This needs to make us ever more convinced of the importance of the choice in this election. Do we fall into division and hatred and racism and violence, or do we say no."
On Sunday, the Conservative Party tweeted: "The threatening images and behaviour are disgusting. This needs to stop immediately. Canada is better than this."
Watch: Protesters disrupt Trudeau campaign event shouting threats, obscenities:
Trudeau has been dogged by protesters at many of his campaign events. He was forced to cancel a campaign event in Bolton, Ont., Friday night when hundreds of angry protesters showed up at the Liberals' outdoor rally.
Among the protesters of Friday were anti-vaccination activists who shouted vulgarities at Liberal volunteers and carried anti-Trudeau signs and flags scrawled with obscenities. The crowd was frustrated with Trudeau's push to make vaccines mandatory in some settings and his support for provincial vaccine passports to restrict entry into some non-essential businesses.
Video footage from the event shows a handful of people with blue Conservative-branded T-shirts among the unmasked crowd assembled for the protest, which also included a strong contingent of people angry over the federal government's ban on flavours in smoking cessation devices, such as e-cigarettes.
Conservatives ban protesters from volunteering
In response to the behaviour, Conservative candidate Kyle Seeback said that the volunteers from his campaign who attended the protest are no longer welcome on his campaign team.
"My campaign has zero-tolerance for obscenities or threatening behaviour against any candidate," Seeback said.
Speaking at an event in Fredericton on Saturday, Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said he is trying to run a positive campaign, and he "strongly condemns any form of harassment" on the campaign trail.
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"If there are candidates who don't support it — or any other part of Canada's Recovery Plan — they won't be sitting in the caucus of a future Conservative government," he said.
The statement came just hours after Trudeau called out O'Toole during an event in Cambridge, Ont. for, in his words, not doing enough to condemn "conspiracy theories" from an incumbent Tory candidate.
At a campaign event in Saint-Hyacinthe, Que., earlier in the day, O'Toole was repeatedly pressed about an undated flyer that longtime MP Cheryl Gallant sent before the election to constituents in the eastern Ontario riding of Renfrew–Nipissing–Pembroke.
In the materials, she suggested federal Liberals would pursue a "climate lockdown" and said her constituents should make the upcoming election "a referendum on more lockdowns."
Tories need to crack down on conspiracy theories: Trudeau
Gallant also released a video in June in which she asked: "How long do you think it will take for the Trudeau Liberals to start calling for a climate lockdown?"
Liberals shared a screenshot of Gallant's flyer online Sunday, prompting the Conservative Party to allege that the Liberals have candidates who support "9/11 truther conspiracies."
In a tweet, the party highlighted a 2011 tweet from Toronto Centre Liberal incumbent Marci Ien, in which she said "Loose Change 9-11: An American Coup," a 9/11 conspiracy theory documentary, "really makes you think about what really happened on September 11, 2001."
The tweet came to light in the Toronto Centre byelection last October. Ien, a former journalist, tweeted at the time: "I've spoken often with the families of 9/11 victims and shared their stories as a broadcaster — and I'll also do everything I can as an MP… to help keep Canadians safe from all such tragedies."
O'Toole wouldn't tell reporters if he found Gallant's comments acceptable and instead pivoted to promoting his platform, which includes a plan to fight climate change.
"We're running on a plan to get our country back on its feet, not on things that happened months or years ago," he said.
Shortly after O'Toole's statement was released threatening to turf people from caucus if they didn't support the Conservative climate plan, Gallant tweeted that she is proud to run on the Conservatives' recovery plan platform "in its entirety."
Imagine a developed country canceling pending applications of applicants from its worldwide popular PR program because they lack resource to process the applications. The world will laugh at Canadian immigration agency. Its not happening. No point in even having this negative argument.
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Oh, I agree. It is extremely unlikely. I was just responding to somebody else.