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imransyed

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I have had enough of potential/imminent immigrants shitting on Canada.
Canada is a developing country, but you know what it does have? A minimum goddamn wage. Yes some or even most will end up doing jobs they don't like, but they'll still be affording a decent life style. The taxes are high, yes they are that's the cost, I guess for leaving your shitty country and getting a goddamn G7 nation's passport. Canada at least before the Pandemic had the most affordable immigration plans out there. Even if you come to study first, depending on what you study it will most probably end up cheaper than buying a little-known nation's passport.

Canada has the best immigration system out there. In 30 or so years, the country will be full of all kinds of skilled, English-speaking workers needed to have a flourishing economy. Even the low income class will be decently educated. This passport in 3 years is at the cost of living with the compromises that Canada is right now, or else EU countries would've offered Passports left and right too.

And Jobs! God people who speak like getting a PR or the Passport should come with the guarantee of a good well paying job are freaking unbelievable. Bruv, you are migrating to a pseudo-developing country. You're gonna have to compromise, you're gonna have to settle.

And here is a possible solution. You know what else the PR gets you? The right to own, start and run your own business. Try doing that. There's a tonne of people in Canada already, and these people will always need something you can provide with a profit margin.
Canada needs Businesses, small, medium and large to create more jobs. Think about starting a business while cribbing about the high taxes.

This immigration system is most thoughtful and caring of them all, but it isn't charitable or without strings. Please look into the variety of advantages and opportunities too while you crib and complain.

A little personal background: I'm from India. My father was piss poor and migrated to Saudi Arabia as an oil field labor. He stuck it out and started a business in Saudi, a completely unknown, new, racist, hostile, anti-immigrant, derogatory country towards SEA expats. I have a job here and it's the worst experience of my life coz of absolute non-utility of my skills and education, combined with a general racism against Indians in terms of pay and the jjobs you can do. Saudi is an insanely rich country, and the companies here recruit labors and workers en masse from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh for a pittance! I can go on and on. I grew up here, I wanted to make a difference to Saudi's economy/my unofficial home country. But they clearly don't need me or my contributions so I am going to be diverting my effort to improving Canada.
I am not complaining about Saudi, it has been very nice to me and my family. I am keeping my head down and working to improve my life wherever I am or will be. And I will forever be grateful to Canada. It gave me what a place where I was born and grew up never did: A permanent home.
 

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this made me remember when I was working at Walmart here. I was new there so I didn’t know where everything was and this lady came asking me where was the sloppy joes. I didn’t know so I went to ask someone stocking(who was a visible minority) and he didn’t know either. The lady(white Karen like) started yelling “well of course he doesn’t know, look at him, he probably never had a sloppy joe in his life.” So yeah.

also, about the racism on hiring, this was just from my orientation, but they hired 8 people, 4 whites went to customer experience, 3 Indians were put outside view(either deli or cart pusher) and the one Asian guy was put on self checkout assistance (basically tech services lol). It was so blatant that I laughed after.
The true question here is : what's a sloppy Joe?

Seems i also never had one...
 

cansha

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Man now people will be mad at me ,but let me explain you what happened in my previous company. Our previous director was a lesbian ,manager lesbian,everyone except 1 manager and me were woman in the management staff.They never wanted to hire me but merit was so strong and my manager wanted to hire me otherwise that would have also been a woman 18/20 staff in a warehouse management woman ,didn't you see any irony in that.They tried to fire me in all possible ways ,eventually they got fired because of corporate complaints from associates.
He just saved my time I dodged a bullet that is how I see it if not this another company. That's it.If this many people made in canada, I am going to make it what ever it takes .
Today I just applied for another 50 positions that's it.
A winner is someone who just refuse to give up.
Today my friend reminded me
"Nothing in your life came easy job,immigration, relationship, friends....in the beginning but some way or the other you overcame all difficulties "

I am giving him a benefit of doubt also he was french from france ,I don't think he was that good at english, so I am not sure he really meant what he said ,even if he meant I just Don't care,I am sure he is not going to hire me but imagine he hires someone whe he can't stand.He said this when the HR was present and that too the hr was indian lol.So he might not know what he said,or he might be too stupid to say that.
Also .. "political aspects" may not be a nefarious thing altogether. Some companies have targets of DEI hiring, or hiring veterans or in Canada hiring people from indigenous communities. These are internal targets and not set in stone but if possible they will try to hire a candidate from those background. If it is a DEI hiring you do have a chance being from a different ethnic background.

I think you may be correct. It could have been a case of he not using the correct English phrase.
 

cansha

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Next, I have said this multiple times, but once I get my Canadian passport, I'm out. The country has value (for now) because of its proximity to the US. But the US empire is bound to collapse within our lifetime.
Where do you plan to go if not US?
 

cansha

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A minimum goddamn wage. Yes some or even most will end up doing jobs they don't like, but they'll still be affording a decent life style.
You are right about almost everything in what you wrote but you are wrong here. Minimum wage in Ontario is 15.5$ and it is extremely difficult to have a decent lifestyle in that earning. Can you get by .. sure .. people do.. but calling it decent lifestyle would be a stretch. Agree with rest of your points.

Also, Canada's biggest issue is right now is that for a large country the population is too low. Hence, the target is to have a population of 100M by 2100. Larger population brings in economies of scale which do not exist in Canada and hence every service which requires economies of scale is quite expensive compared to next door neighbor the USA.

I think the so called "negative" posts about life in Canada are as important as your "positive" and "get it done" kind of posts. You seem to have the right attitude and expectations but far too many people immigrate with lofty expectations leaving behind really good jobs in home countries and then entering a phase of very serious depression once in Canada. The reality check provided here is needed. You may think someone moving to a new country should already be aware of the pitfalls of moving to a new country but you will be surprised how many people do end up coming with too many expectations.

I have known people who made more in India even after converting their salary to CAD then their first salary in Canada. They did come with expectations that they will need to start afresh but knowing that and living that is entirely two different things.

Hence every opinion negative or positive has its own value. The only other thing I don't agree with in your post is the inherent tone of superiority since you consider other people have been whining and you are not.
 

cansha

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That's irrelevant. The important part is that having a Canadian passport will make it easier to move elsewhere. Unlike having an Indian passport which has about the same strength as single ply toilet paper.
Yeah but only as a visitor.. Canada passport won't get you work rights other than TN visa to US or Mexico.
 

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Also, Canada's biggest issue is right now is that for a large country the population is too low. Hence, the target is to have a population of 100M by 2100. Larger population brings in economies of scale which do not exist in Canada and hence every service which requires economies of scale is quite expensive compared to next door neighbor the USA.
One thing, it is not Canada's plan to have a population of 100M by 2100, its what agencies have suggested for Canada to maintain it standard of life.

Canada will never have nor will need that kind of population, especially with the advancement in technology. Even more, you will see that as soon as the conservatives come to power, those immigration levels will be slashed.

This more and more immigrants needed is Liberal sh*t, they don't need that many. What they need is selected immigration and I believe conservatives will go far in making that happen.
 

ImpatientAlligator

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That is the difference between US and Canada. In US old white racist folks may have said something but in Canada they are passive aggressive and just show expressions and move away. And people think Canadians are "nice". People are People. And Canada has as much racism problem as any other nation in the world. White superiority complex is real and is not limited to US. But saying only white people are racist is also disingenuous . Asian folks are racist towards black folk too. And don't get me started on racism of Indian people towards other Indian people who are not from their region / caste / religion.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/caste-india-canada-students-1.6450484

We all like to think we are not racist but fact is each and every individual has some preconceived notions and biases. Only thing is to be conscious of those biases and actively try to make yourself better by working on removing those barriers / biases and notions from your consciousness.
Having lived in the US and now living in Canada and comparing them to the other western countries that I've visited, I can honestly say that the USA(bar its immigration system) and Canada are the least racist western countries.

While I personally haven't faced any racism in either country, I'd actually put the USA(bar its immigration system) ahead of Canada based on what I've heard from friends - I've heard from some Indian friends of mine who were followed by security in supermarkets in Canada while such a thing has never been reported in the US despite a much bigger sample size.

General advice/appeal to everyone: At a personal level, often the best way to deal with racism is to ignore it; but collectively, it's always better to call it out. You are doing some social service when you do that.
 
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