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Rahul Dutta

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Nov 20, 2009
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Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
Canadian Schooling system (For your Information)

"As an immigrating parent, understanding Canada's school system is of fundamental importance -- especially due to the gradation structure, age considerations & varieties available. If you're coming from the UK, it's very different and can be a confusing and often misunderstood.

OVERVIEW

Sans the Pvt Schools - Education in Canada is publicly funded and overseen by federal, provincial, and local governments. Which means, our children get to be educated for free. [I repeat]Schooling is provided without charge for all residents of Canada - they have a right to education.

Schools in Canada are generally divided into Elementary education, followed by Secondary or "High School". Within the provinces under the ministry of education, there are "District School Boards" administering the educational programs. These school boards would follow a common curriculum set up by the province the board resides in. Only Alberta allows public charter schools, which are independent of any district board. Instead, they each have their own board, which reports directly to the province.

Compulsory Education

Education is compulsory between the ages of 6 to 16 in every province in Canada, except Ontario and New Brunswick, where the compulsory age is 18. Most children begin school at age 4, with part time schooling called "Kindergarten". Elementary school generally runs between grades 1 to 8, and Secondary [or] “high school” between grades 9 and 12.

Note:
- About one out of ten [1:10] Canadians do not have a high school diploma – one in seven [1:7] has a university degree – the adult population that is without a high school diploma is a combination of both immigrant and Canadian-born. In many places, publicly-funded high school courses are offered to the adult population.
- Canada spends about 7% of its GDP on education. Since the adoption of section 23 of the Constitution Act, 1982, education in both English and French has been available in most places across Canada (if the population of children speaking the minority language justifies it), although French Second Language [FSL] education/French Immersion is available to anglophone students across Canada.

THE SCHOOL YEAR

The school year runs from September to June, five days a week, for usually six hours a day. Canada generally has 190 school days in the year, officially starting from September (after Labour Day) to the end of June (usually the last Friday of the month, except some cases in Quebec when it is just before June 24 – the provincial holiday).

THE CURRICULUM

Canada has its own unique schooling standards - it is run neither as the UK, nor on the US patterns. The standard is intrinsic to its own culture, traditions & development strategies.

The curriculum is designed to elicit development and quality of people's cognition through the guiding of accommodations of individuals to their natural environment and their changing social order. Some Canadian scholars view academics as a form of "soft power" - helping to educate and to create positive attitudes.

Furthermore, subjects that typically get assessed (i.e., language, arts, mathematics, and science) assume greater importance than non-assessed subjects (i.e., music, visual arts, and physical education) or facets of the curriculum (i.e., reading & writing versus speaking & listening). The students in the Canadian school system receive a variety of classes that are offered to them. The system is set up to meet the diverse needs of the individual student.

Advantages of Canadian schooling
- Canadian schools generally are more relaxed.
- They aim to nurture well rounded individuals.
- Kids carry a backpack - but usually don't have much books or note-pads.
- Instead it'd have an Agenda [School diary] & two [2] Tiffin boxes [a Snack box & a Lunch box] - they get three [3] breaks a day!
- Students of walking distance from the school get to go home for lunch.
- Students afar [but within the neighborhood] get the school Transportation* - for FREE.
- Many parents report that their children are happier and less stressed at Canadian schools than they were at their overseas schools.
*It's a regulation that our kids go to their neighborhood schools [only].

TYPES OF SCHOOLS

There are multiple types of schooling available for our children in Canada:
1. Public Schools – The public school system in Canada is free. Children are not required to wear uniforms. -Free school
2. Catholic Schools – The Catholic school system is also free. Students here are required to wear uniforms. -Free school
3. Private Schools – Private schools charge tuition fees, and can be expensive. Uniforms are required at most private schools. -Paid school
4. Ethnic Schools – Uniformed & Charged - they offer a specialized curriculum based on language, religion or ethnicity. -Paid school
5. Home schooling – Parents can choose to teach their children at home, but they are expected to meet the same standards of the public system.

Private Schools

Only about 8% of students are in private schools. A minority of these are "elite" private schools. It is not unusual for the wealthy and prominent in Canada to send their children to public schools [Note: Not Private Schools], especially in the lower grades. Private schools are also used to study outside the country. Eg. Canadian College Italy has an Ontario curriculum, but the students study in Italy.

Private schools have historically been less common on the Canadian Prairies and were often forbidden under municipal and provincial statutes enacted to provide equality of education to students regardless of family income. This is especially true in Alberta, where successive Social Credit (or populist conservative) governments denounced the concept of private education as the main cause of denial of opportunity to the children of the working poor. These rules lasted longer than Social Credit; it was only in 1989 that private K-12 schools were allowed to operate inside the boundaries of the City of Calgary.

Ethnic / Religious schools

Each province deals differently with private religious schools. Ontario has several private Jewish, Muslim, and Christian schools all funded through tuition fees. In other provinces many privately operated religious schools are funded [not all]. In British Columbia the government pays 50% of the cost of religious schools that meet rigorous provincial standards. The province has a number of Sikh, Hindu, Christian, and Muslim schools.

Alberta also has a network of charter schools, which are fully funded schools offering distinct approaches to education within the public school system. Alberta charter schools are not private and the province does not grant charters to religious schools. These schools have to follow the provincial curriculum and meet all standards, but are given considerable freedom in other areas. In all other provinces private religious schools receive some funding, but not as much as the public system.

Catholic Schools

In Ontario, the Catholic system continues to be fully publicly funded [akin to Public schools] - while other faiths are not. Since the Catholic schools system is entrenched in the constitution, the Supreme Court has ruled that this system is constitutional. However, the UNHRC has ruled that Ontario's system is discriminatory, suggesting that Ontario either fund no faith-based schools, or all of them. In 2002 the government of Mike Harris introduced a controversial program to partially fund all private schools, but this was criticized for undermining the public education system and the program was eliminated after the Liberals won the 2003 provincial election.

Schooling in Quebec Vs. Other Provinces

Quebecers must attend a French School up until the end of high school, unless one of their parents previously attended an English-language school somewhere in Canada (immigrants from other countries cannot use this exception). In other provinces, English Speakers are not allowed to attend French Schools, unless one of the parent has French language as mother tongue, but they can easily attend French Immersion Schools.[/color]

Age Vs. Grade in Canadian Schools
(Except the province of Quebec)

Which Grade my kids will be admitted to when we 'land'?
Contrary to whatever Grade/Class/Std our kids were studying overseas [or in our homeland] as we 'land' here our kids would be taken into a Grade as per his/her age. Here is which grade they'd attend/admitted to, as per their age group...

Early childhood education
- Junior Kindergarten (ages 4–5)
- Kindergarten (ages 5–6)

Elementary education
- Grade 1 (ages 6–7)
- Grade 2 (ages 7–8)
- Grade 3 (ages 8–9)
- Grade 4 (ages 9–10)
- Grade 5 (ages 10–11)
- Grade 6 (ages 11–12)
- Grade 7 (ages 12–13)
- Grade 8 (ages 13–14)

Secondary education
- Grade 9 (ages 14–15)
- Grade 10 (ages 15–16)
- Grade 11 (ages 16–17)
- Grade 12 (ages 17–18)
- Grade 12+ (ages 18+)

NOTE:
1. Students in the Prairie provinces are not required by statute to attend kindergarten.
2. Kindergarten is not often available in smaller towns.

Which school [location] my kids will join?
By regulation our children get to join the "neighborhood school" [unless we want them to go to a Pvt. School]. District School Boards demarcate school boundaries based on neighborhoods. And every neighborhood WILL HAVE certain no. of schools, both Elementary as well as Secondary [Yes, they are different School buildings/premises].

How will I know which school "belongs" to my neighborhood?
Yes, this could be tricky. Especially when you 'physically see' a school nearby, but on approaching u find that this one doesn't cater to your locality. Usually that school will guide u to the right school. However, u may also check the same by visiting the District School Board's website. Eg. if u r in Toronto - hit TDSB, similarly if u r in Mississauga/Brampton - hit PDSB. [U'd find those links below, in the end of this post]

How will my kids go to school from my residence?
If the school is within walking distance - we r to escort our kids to school everyday... but, not necessary - 'Coz, every Xing, street intersections will have "Traffic Marshals" [identifiable thru their security jackets] placed during the school hrs. This is Awesome here! - so, even if our kids walk alone - they r quite safe. Moreover, cycling to school is appreciated/advocated. And with the weather - this is no daunting task.

What if that school is 2 Kms away from my residence?
If the school is beyond walking distance [will be informed by the school] - the children get to take the "School Buss" - for FREE. Busses r operated by Pvt. Contractors, but specially for school transportation, colored Yellow, shall pick-up/drop our kids from vantage points [near our residence]... many times that could be next to the home as well. The Bus No. shall be informed to us by the school - we do not need to be perturbed on that aspect!

Rain or shine or Snow?
Not a problem! Kids here r used to sporting a 'rain cape' &/or carrying Umbrellas to school. Usually, they would also be wearing Rain Boots [call it Gum Boots - if u may]. And during snowing season - they'd sport appropriate winter dress & Snow Boots [incidentally all these garments would be available everywhere during these seasons -Walmart, Canadian Tire, Zellers, Sears et all shall suffice for our sourcing... & if in Toronto - u may hit the Honest Ed's as well, for the more price-concious among us!]

Will my kids be admitted to school whenever we 'land'?
Typically the neighborhood school is duty bound to accept admittance of our children whenever we want to in Canada. Remember the school session commences from September to June... however, if we 'land' in October - yet the local school will take-in our kids. Ditto for any other months as well. Another eg. suppose we 'land' in April/May - School will be closing in June - still our kids WILL BE accepted in the school.

What documentation is required for School Admission?
1. Child Immunization Record > http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t61790.0.html
2. School Transfer Certificate
3. Birth Certificate
4. Residential Lease Contract [or Home Purchase Deed]

What dress my kids will wear to school everyday?
On a hindsight I guess many will again post this query... remember once again - Public Schools in Canada is w/out "Uniform" - our children will wear any appropriate dress [usual clothing] to school. An exception to this is theCatholic & Ethnic Schools - which require students to wear the prescribed uniform.

Which one is better - Public schools or Private Schools?
Another question many ask me - where should I get my children admitted to - Public Schools or the Private schools? Let me inform u with certainty that the curriculum, & standards of both r the same. Ditto the teachers & staff... they all come from the same basket, don't they? These schools do have a great deal of prestige and prominence [there r many "elite" ones as well]... but that is all in the head! The fact remains that Pvt. Schools r attended by only a small fraction of students. Besides, they r often beyond our affordability, especially for newcomers. Then again, we chose to come to Canada especially considering 'free education' factor, among some others, didn't we? IMHO, why to waste our funds, when many of the illuminati actually came out of the Public Schools? BTW, Public schools in Canada r pretty good!

How to locate/assess "good" Public schools?
Another myth [purely my opinion again] is "assessing" Canadian schools against each other. The factual position is that each one is typically the same - as described earlier... Nonetheless, if we need to yet perform this task, Fraser Institute "ranks" most schools in Canada. Check here: http://www.compareschoolrankings.org/Index.aspx

Do I locate my residence based on "good" schools?
Again a debatable point... I would say "No". As enumerated earlier, it doesn't matter which school my kids go, at least in the Elementary stage/s. Lot other factors would determine where I chose to locate my residence, eg. my employment, proximity to friends/relatives, my ethnicity/religion [not advocated though, seriously!], cost of renting/buying, neighborhood assessment etc. Read here for the Toronto Neighborhoods' details:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t66734.0.html

So, what about "pre-school"? -before KG?
Daycare - a Nightmare !

1. Daycare could be quite expensive here, in Canada. It'd be difficult to find one which charges lower than $800-1000/month.
2. KG is part of the Public Schooling (it's Free). Starts at 4 yrs. of age.
3. Typically, if we have kids below 4, either parent should remain at home* [works better vis-a-vis the daycare costs Vs. starter pays].
*my personal opinion - sure individual cases/requirements would differ.

City of Toronto : Daycare Brochure
http://www.toronto.ca/children/pdf/guide.pdf
Daycare - Costs & Worries; News
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/218181

CONCLUSION

Canadians believe that life is a marathon and not a 100-meters sprint. Children are encouraged at a young age to develop at their own natural pace. There is no streaming. Mentally-challenged children & gifted children are put in the same class as the normal kids. Under this environment, Canadian kids learn to develop compassion towards the less fortunate and realize that the world comprises different kinds of people. Hence they grow to be less arrogant and less prejudicial.

It is mandatory for students to do part-time jobs or perform volunteer duties at seniors' home and other charity organizations in order to graduate from high schools. The students get marks for doing charity or part-time jobs. It is not uncommon to see volunteers in the hospital reception areas, families picking litter on the streets, distributing food/clothing to the needy, volunteers in senior homes, even the mentally and physically challenged are taken care of by volunteers.

Canadians constitute less than 1% of the world's population but provides 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces in its selfless and unceremonious way. Volunteerism has become second nature to Canadians. 18 Nobel Prize winners, 405 Olympics medalists, plus hundreds of world-renowned entrepreneurs, inventors, artists, musicians, writers, actors, singers etc. stand testimony to a marvellous education system of Canada.

REFERENCES:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/welcome/wel-14e.asp
http://www.cmec.ca/Pages/Default.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Canada
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/why-i-prefer-canadas-education-system-world-ranking-or-not/
http://www.learningfirst.org/node/2092
http://www.compareschoolrankings.org/Index.aspx?jid=ON
http://www.ontariohomeschool.org/

SOME SCHOOL BOARDS:
http://www.tdsb.on.ca/
http://www.peel.edu.on.ca/
http://www.vsb.bc.ca/
http://www.rbe.sk.ca/
http://www.emsb.qc.ca/en/index_en.asp
http://www.cbe.ab.ca/

Welcome to a scholastic sojourn !

Ref: Qorax
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t72241.0.html
 

ummi

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Mar 29, 2012
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Thanks for the info Rahul.
i was wandering is it worth taking furniture from here?what do you feel?

In 5 CM how many beds or sofa can go approx..I am really zero in this field...:) perhaps i have not mentioned any furniture in Goods to follow list when I landed first time so if now I take than have to pay tax on it ?
please do share the information about shipment..we can workout together to share a container if you are going to Toronto.
Regards





Rahul Dutta said:
Hi,

$ are consideration, avoid 'non-stop' flights. They obviously are costlier. Many People prefer Dubai to Calgary/Toronto via Heathrow (UK). Please checkout the current rates on cleartrip.com and you can do the permutations and combinations.
I will also suggest you one more thing, before booking ticket , Please check with airlines the baggage they are allowing. Different airlines have different baggage allowance.
Moreover, If you want to ship your goods, then I can tell u the approx cost : for 1cubic mt = 2500/-AED (You can send upto 10 cartons), and if you want to send other big stuff like beds and furniture, u may require 5CM that will cost you approx 5,000/-aed. I got this information from one of my friends who is also moving in feb to Toronto via Itihad airlines.

Kindly update the link also.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An3L0sYezLfldE85YVlicUZKdnZETlF1X1E2SnN1SUE&usp=sharing
 
Oct 24, 2012
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Abu Dhabi
Visa Office......
Lodnon
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14/12/2009
Doc's Request.
10/02/2010
IELTS Request
2010 (called recalled date)
File Transfer...
17/02/2010
Med's Request
05/11/2013 (not sure exactly)
Med's Done....
03/12/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13/12/2013
VISA ISSUED...
09/01/2014
LANDED..........
Soon InshaAllah
Rahul Dutta, thanks a lot, it is really worthy information, you must have spent enormous time to collect all this information.
 

Rahul Dutta

Star Member
Nov 20, 2009
80
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123
Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
Just Sharing Landing experience of somebody. May help others -

Hi guys,

Finally Landed at Toronto Pearson Airport thru KLM Airlines via Amsterdam. Flight service was good and everything was on time. We had halt at Amsterdam for 3.5 hours which we enjoyed seeing the airport , duty free,etc (no transit visa)

Now coming to Toronto Airport, after coming out of plane, there were 2 lines – a) Permanent Residents Entry and b) Visitors Visa. If u r landing first time, u need to go to Visitors Visa Line. (Many of this will be known but just want to share , as we had went to PR entry line and were trying to scan the Canada Visa which was not working)

You will enter at Immigration who will check your passport (not COPR or goods to follow list ,etc). She will stamp ur passport and will ask you to go to CBSA officer who check your COPR and will ask you the address. Here we had address but there was one number (e.g 75) which was apartment number and I was not sure whether its Villa Number or Street Number. So make sure you understand ur address correctly. She ask me to update the address online or fax one form (she gave) to given number. For Proof of Funds , I had handed over the form which had US$ and CA$. She didn't ask the funds for checking. Finally she said “Welcome to Canada”.
After clearing from CBSA officer ( COPR and POF) , u will go ahead and u will get detailed explanation of Canada benefits, schooling, etc which will be explained by person at the counter.

After getting all brochures for Canada, you will move ahead for Customs for goods declaration. Normally they don't ask for Goods carried list and ask for Goods to Follow list. I had Goods to Follow list in excel sheet print out (6 pages) with nearly $60K. There was not much crowd and officer ask us to come. He ask do you have goods to follow list and I immediately handed over the list. He went through the list thoroughly one by one and said “GHEE” is not allowed. He cross that item and ask What's “MILK MASALA”. My wife explained him. Again he ask “What's “CHUDIDHAR” (indian dress) , we told that its indian dress for girls.
Then he was checking gold item list and ask do u have photos and we showed the photos. I asked him that I need to add 2 things which I missed and he said you can add it. I added manually in the list and he then trying to add the values in the list (as I had not given total value of goods at end of sheet)
Took a taxi for Brampton and it cost us 65$ from Pearson Airport to Brampton.
Next day, I went to Service Ontario for SIN Number and we got it in half hour. The lady well explained to us of Canada system ,etc. I had updated my address there as there are Desktops lying there for online service (free to use). There will be lady who will be helping if u r stuck up anywhere.
After SIN number, got my mobile SIM card ( please remember its not mandatory to give ur SIN Number to mobile card sellers for prepaid card atleast). For post paid card also, u don't need to give SIN but then u will not get SIM card. So its ur call to give the SIN number or not. I didn't gave SIN number to card sellers as it was prepaid.

SIN number is very important and keep it in proper custody. There may be misuse of your number.

On 2nd Day, I went for Driving test at Brampton . I showed my Dubai License, RTA letter (Attested one and its mandatory) with Passport. She gave me token and ask to pay. At other counter, the guy took my eye testing and confirmed my address, DOB, and name. I asked him that “Is Attestation mandatory on this letter”?. He said yes its mandatory and other lady staff also told with him the same thing.
I pass the G1 test and will be appearing for classes for G2 (3 to 4 classes). Each class will cost $30 and then I will be appearing for G2 test. Again then I need to take 3 to 4 classes for G test and then final test on highway.
Note:
1) In G1 test, there are two sets of questions – a) Sign test and b) Rules test.
2) Rules Test is tricky and suggest you to prepare yourself. There are some rules in Canada which you will know after you have practice. You can go to “ApnaToronto.com” for test.

This country is very calm and peaceful. People here are very polite and courteous. Everything is systematized and you will like it.

That's all for now and will keep you update guys.


Ref : My Landing Experience - Toronto (Brampton) - Coolguy2010
 

Rahul Dutta

Star Member
Nov 20, 2009
80
0
123
Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
ummi said:
Thanks for the info Rahul.
i was wandering is it worth taking furniture from here?what do you feel?

In 5 CM how many beds or sofa can go approx..I am really zero in this field...:) perhaps i have not mentioned any furniture in Goods to follow list when I landed first time so if now I take than have to pay tax on it ?
please do share the information about shipment..we can workout together to share a container if you are going to Toronto.
Regards
Taking your stuff with you is purely you personal decision. FYI normally, shipping takes 55-60 days. If you move to Toronto, then later u got job somewhere else, you may end up spending more on transferring goods from one place to another. So you need to do the cost benefit analysis of your stuff. You can check what you will get by selling your goods here, and how much you need spend in Canada (u can visit Kijiji.com).

One thing keep in mind, don't carry burden. If you have not declared the goods in the follow list, leave it and move. I wish, u will make better / new stuff there for your family.

I am still waiting for my PPR, so dont know when it will come. I have already sent my RPRF and PCC (30-12-2013), medicals done (23-11-2013). I dont know when the next move will come.

Wish you good luck.

Kindly fill the link, it may help others later on.


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Abu Dhabi, UAE
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila, Philippines
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
February 25, 2013
AOR Received.
April 05, 2013
Med's Request
May 7, 2013
Med's Done....
May 21, 2013
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
September 4, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
October 1, 2013
LANDED..........
in GOD's perfect time!!!
Rahul Dutta said:
Canadian Schooling system (For your Information)

"As an immigrating parent, understanding Canada's school system is of fundamental importance -- especially due to the gradation structure, age considerations & varieties available. If you're coming from the UK, it's very different and can be a confusing and often misunderstood.

OVERVIEW

Sans the Pvt Schools - Education in Canada is publicly funded and overseen by federal, provincial, and local governments. Which means, our children get to be educated for free. [I repeat]Schooling is provided without charge for all residents of Canada - they have a right to education.

Schools in Canada are generally divided into Elementary education, followed by Secondary or "High School". Within the provinces under the ministry of education, there are "District School Boards" administering the educational programs. These school boards would follow a common curriculum set up by the province the board resides in. Only Alberta allows public charter schools, which are independent of any district board. Instead, they each have their own board, which reports directly to the province.

Compulsory Education

Education is compulsory between the ages of 6 to 16 in every province in Canada, except Ontario and New Brunswick, where the compulsory age is 18. Most children begin school at age 4, with part time schooling called "Kindergarten". Elementary school generally runs between grades 1 to 8, and Secondary [or] “high school” between grades 9 and 12.

Note:
- About one out of ten [1:10] Canadians do not have a high school diploma – one in seven [1:7] has a university degree – the adult population that is without a high school diploma is a combination of both immigrant and Canadian-born. In many places, publicly-funded high school courses are offered to the adult population.
- Canada spends about 7% of its GDP on education. Since the adoption of section 23 of the Constitution Act, 1982, education in both English and French has been available in most places across Canada (if the population of children speaking the minority language justifies it), although French Second Language [FSL] education/French Immersion is available to anglophone students across Canada.

THE SCHOOL YEAR

The school year runs from September to June, five days a week, for usually six hours a day. Canada generally has 190 school days in the year, officially starting from September (after Labour Day) to the end of June (usually the last Friday of the month, except some cases in Quebec when it is just before June 24 – the provincial holiday).

THE CURRICULUM

Canada has its own unique schooling standards - it is run neither as the UK, nor on the US patterns. The standard is intrinsic to its own culture, traditions & development strategies.

The curriculum is designed to elicit development and quality of people's cognition through the guiding of accommodations of individuals to their natural environment and their changing social order. Some Canadian scholars view academics as a form of "soft power" - helping to educate and to create positive attitudes.

Furthermore, subjects that typically get assessed (i.e., language, arts, mathematics, and science) assume greater importance than non-assessed subjects (i.e., music, visual arts, and physical education) or facets of the curriculum (i.e., reading & writing versus speaking & listening). The students in the Canadian school system receive a variety of classes that are offered to them. The system is set up to meet the diverse needs of the individual student.

Advantages of Canadian schooling
- Canadian schools generally are more relaxed.
- They aim to nurture well rounded individuals.
- Kids carry a backpack - but usually don't have much books or note-pads.
- Instead it'd have an Agenda [School diary] & two [2] Tiffin boxes [a Snack box & a Lunch box] - they get three [3] breaks a day!
- Students of walking distance from the school get to go home for lunch.
- Students afar [but within the neighborhood] get the school Transportation* - for FREE.
- Many parents report that their children are happier and less stressed at Canadian schools than they were at their overseas schools.
*It's a regulation that our kids go to their neighborhood schools [only].

TYPES OF SCHOOLS

There are multiple types of schooling available for our children in Canada:
1. Public Schools – The public school system in Canada is free. Children are not required to wear uniforms. -Free school
2. Catholic Schools – The Catholic school system is also free. Students here are required to wear uniforms. -Free school
3. Private Schools – Private schools charge tuition fees, and can be expensive. Uniforms are required at most private schools. -Paid school
4. Ethnic Schools – Uniformed & Charged - they offer a specialized curriculum based on language, religion or ethnicity. -Paid school
5. Home schooling – Parents can choose to teach their children at home, but they are expected to meet the same standards of the public system.

Private Schools

Only about 8% of students are in private schools. A minority of these are "elite" private schools. It is not unusual for the wealthy and prominent in Canada to send their children to public schools [Note: Not Private Schools], especially in the lower grades. Private schools are also used to study outside the country. Eg. Canadian College Italy has an Ontario curriculum, but the students study in Italy.

Private schools have historically been less common on the Canadian Prairies and were often forbidden under municipal and provincial statutes enacted to provide equality of education to students regardless of family income. This is especially true in Alberta, where successive Social Credit (or populist conservative) governments denounced the concept of private education as the main cause of denial of opportunity to the children of the working poor. These rules lasted longer than Social Credit; it was only in 1989 that private K-12 schools were allowed to operate inside the boundaries of the City of Calgary.

Ethnic / Religious schools

Each province deals differently with private religious schools. Ontario has several private Jewish, Muslim, and Christian schools all funded through tuition fees. In other provinces many privately operated religious schools are funded [not all]. In British Columbia the government pays 50% of the cost of religious schools that meet rigorous provincial standards. The province has a number of Sikh, Hindu, Christian, and Muslim schools.

Alberta also has a network of charter schools, which are fully funded schools offering distinct approaches to education within the public school system. Alberta charter schools are not private and the province does not grant charters to religious schools. These schools have to follow the provincial curriculum and meet all standards, but are given considerable freedom in other areas. In all other provinces private religious schools receive some funding, but not as much as the public system.

Catholic Schools

In Ontario, the Catholic system continues to be fully publicly funded [akin to Public schools] - while other faiths are not. Since the Catholic schools system is entrenched in the constitution, the Supreme Court has ruled that this system is constitutional. However, the UNHRC has ruled that Ontario's system is discriminatory, suggesting that Ontario either fund no faith-based schools, or all of them. In 2002 the government of Mike Harris introduced a controversial program to partially fund all private schools, but this was criticized for undermining the public education system and the program was eliminated after the Liberals won the 2003 provincial election.

Schooling in Quebec Vs. Other Provinces

Quebecers must attend a French School up until the end of high school, unless one of their parents previously attended an English-language school somewhere in Canada (immigrants from other countries cannot use this exception). In other provinces, English Speakers are not allowed to attend French Schools, unless one of the parent has French language as mother tongue, but they can easily attend French Immersion Schools.[/color]

Age Vs. Grade in Canadian Schools
(Except the province of Quebec)

Which Grade my kids will be admitted to when we 'land'?
Contrary to whatever Grade/Class/Std our kids were studying overseas [or in our homeland] as we 'land' here our kids would be taken into a Grade as per his/her age. Here is which grade they'd attend/admitted to, as per their age group...

Early childhood education
- Junior Kindergarten (ages 4–5)
- Kindergarten (ages 5–6)

Elementary education
- Grade 1 (ages 6–7)
- Grade 2 (ages 7–8)
- Grade 3 (ages 8–9)
- Grade 4 (ages 9–10)
- Grade 5 (ages 10–11)
- Grade 6 (ages 11–12)
- Grade 7 (ages 12–13)
- Grade 8 (ages 13–14)

Secondary education
- Grade 9 (ages 14–15)
- Grade 10 (ages 15–16)
- Grade 11 (ages 16–17)
- Grade 12 (ages 17–18)
- Grade 12+ (ages 18+)

NOTE:
1. Students in the Prairie provinces are not required by statute to attend kindergarten.
2. Kindergarten is not often available in smaller towns.

Which school [location] my kids will join?
By regulation our children get to join the "neighborhood school" [unless we want them to go to a Pvt. School]. District School Boards demarcate school boundaries based on neighborhoods. And every neighborhood WILL HAVE certain no. of schools, both Elementary as well as Secondary [Yes, they are different School buildings/premises].

How will I know which school "belongs" to my neighborhood?
Yes, this could be tricky. Especially when you 'physically see' a school nearby, but on approaching u find that this one doesn't cater to your locality. Usually that school will guide u to the right school. However, u may also check the same by visiting the District School Board's website. Eg. if u r in Toronto - hit TDSB, similarly if u r in Mississauga/Brampton - hit PDSB. [U'd find those links below, in the end of this post]

How will my kids go to school from my residence?
If the school is within walking distance - we r to escort our kids to school everyday... but, not necessary - 'Coz, every Xing, street intersections will have "Traffic Marshals" [identifiable thru their security jackets] placed during the school hrs. This is Awesome here! - so, even if our kids walk alone - they r quite safe. Moreover, cycling to school is appreciated/advocated. And with the weather - this is no daunting task.

What if that school is 2 Kms away from my residence?
If the school is beyond walking distance [will be informed by the school] - the children get to take the "School Buss" - for FREE. Busses r operated by Pvt. Contractors, but specially for school transportation, colored Yellow, shall pick-up/drop our kids from vantage points [near our residence]... many times that could be next to the home as well. The Bus No. shall be informed to us by the school - we do not need to be perturbed on that aspect!

Rain or shine or Snow?
Not a problem! Kids here r used to sporting a 'rain cape' &/or carrying Umbrellas to school. Usually, they would also be wearing Rain Boots [call it Gum Boots - if u may]. And during snowing season - they'd sport appropriate winter dress & Snow Boots [incidentally all these garments would be available everywhere during these seasons -Walmart, Canadian Tire, Zellers, Sears et all shall suffice for our sourcing... & if in Toronto - u may hit the Honest Ed's as well, for the more price-concious among us!]

Will my kids be admitted to school whenever we 'land'?
Typically the neighborhood school is duty bound to accept admittance of our children whenever we want to in Canada. Remember the school session commences from September to June... however, if we 'land' in October - yet the local school will take-in our kids. Ditto for any other months as well. Another eg. suppose we 'land' in April/May - School will be closing in June - still our kids WILL BE accepted in the school.

What documentation is required for School Admission?
1. Child Immunization Record > http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t61790.0.html
2. School Transfer Certificate
3. Birth Certificate
4. Residential Lease Contract [or Home Purchase Deed]

What dress my kids will wear to school everyday?
On a hindsight I guess many will again post this query... remember once again - Public Schools in Canada is w/out "Uniform" - our children will wear any appropriate dress [usual clothing] to school. An exception to this is theCatholic & Ethnic Schools - which require students to wear the prescribed uniform.

Which one is better - Public schools or Private Schools?
Another question many ask me - where should I get my children admitted to - Public Schools or the Private schools? Let me inform u with certainty that the curriculum, & standards of both r the same. Ditto the teachers & staff... they all come from the same basket, don't they? These schools do have a great deal of prestige and prominence [there r many "elite" ones as well]... but that is all in the head! The fact remains that Pvt. Schools r attended by only a small fraction of students. Besides, they r often beyond our affordability, especially for newcomers. Then again, we chose to come to Canada especially considering 'free education' factor, among some others, didn't we? IMHO, why to waste our funds, when many of the illuminati actually came out of the Public Schools? BTW, Public schools in Canada r pretty good!

How to locate/assess "good" Public schools?
Another myth [purely my opinion again] is "assessing" Canadian schools against each other. The factual position is that each one is typically the same - as described earlier... Nonetheless, if we need to yet perform this task, Fraser Institute "ranks" most schools in Canada. Check here: http://www.compareschoolrankings.org/Index.aspx

Do I locate my residence based on "good" schools?
Again a debatable point... I would say "No". As enumerated earlier, it doesn't matter which school my kids go, at least in the Elementary stage/s. Lot other factors would determine where I chose to locate my residence, eg. my employment, proximity to friends/relatives, my ethnicity/religion [not advocated though, seriously!], cost of renting/buying, neighborhood assessment etc. Read here for the Toronto Neighborhoods' details:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t66734.0.html

So, what about "pre-school"? -before KG?
Daycare - a Nightmare !

1. Daycare could be quite expensive here, in Canada. It'd be difficult to find one which charges lower than $800-1000/month.
2. KG is part of the Public Schooling (it's Free). Starts at 4 yrs. of age.
3. Typically, if we have kids below 4, either parent should remain at home* [works better vis-a-vis the daycare costs Vs. starter pays].
*my personal opinion - sure individual cases/requirements would differ.

City of Toronto : Daycare Brochure
http://www.toronto.ca/children/pdf/guide.pdf
Daycare - Costs & Worries; News
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/218181

CONCLUSION

Canadians believe that life is a marathon and not a 100-meters sprint. Children are encouraged at a young age to develop at their own natural pace. There is no streaming. Mentally-challenged children & gifted children are put in the same class as the normal kids. Under this environment, Canadian kids learn to develop compassion towards the less fortunate and realize that the world comprises different kinds of people. Hence they grow to be less arrogant and less prejudicial.

It is mandatory for students to do part-time jobs or perform volunteer duties at seniors' home and other charity organizations in order to graduate from high schools. The students get marks for doing charity or part-time jobs. It is not uncommon to see volunteers in the hospital reception areas, families picking litter on the streets, distributing food/clothing to the needy, volunteers in senior homes, even the mentally and physically challenged are taken care of by volunteers.

Canadians constitute less than 1% of the world's population but provides 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces in its selfless and unceremonious way. Volunteerism has become second nature to Canadians. 18 Nobel Prize winners, 405 Olympics medalists, plus hundreds of world-renowned entrepreneurs, inventors, artists, musicians, writers, actors, singers etc. stand testimony to a marvellous education system of Canada.

REFERENCES:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/welcome/wel-14e.asp
http://www.cmec.ca/Pages/Default.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Canada
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/11/why-i-prefer-canadas-education-system-world-ranking-or-not/
http://www.learningfirst.org/node/2092
http://www.compareschoolrankings.org/Index.aspx?jid=ON
http://www.ontariohomeschool.org/

SOME SCHOOL BOARDS:
http://www.tdsb.on.ca/
http://www.peel.edu.on.ca/
http://www.vsb.bc.ca/
http://www.rbe.sk.ca/
http://www.emsb.qc.ca/en/index_en.asp
http://www.cbe.ab.ca/

Welcome to a scholastic sojourn !

Ref: Qorax
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t72241.0.html

Whew...quite an amazing post, I was about to ask questions regarding my kids schooling since we'r planning to land this April 2014... thank you sooooooo much:)
 

Rahul Dutta

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Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
Can anybody tell me the average time when I should receive the PP request. My details are as below -

Medical Request - 19-10-2013
Medical Done - 23-11-2013
RPRF and PCC - 31-12-2013

PP Request - ??

Regards
 

Rahul Dutta

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Nov 20, 2009
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Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
ummi said:
I got PP request from London office after 5 weeks.
Best of luck.
Does it comes through physical letter or an email on your registered ID?
 

Rahul Dutta

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Nov 20, 2009
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Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
ummi said:
Thanks for the info Rahul.
i was wandering is it worth taking furniture from here?what do you feel?

In 5 CM how many beds or sofa can go approx..I am really zero in this field...:) perhaps i have not mentioned any furniture in Goods to follow list when I landed first time so if now I take than have to pay tax on it ?
please do share the information about shipment..we can workout together to share a container if you are going to Toronto.
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ummi

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What pp request?
yes i received an email first followed by the physical letter at later stage.

Regarding stamped PP, i collected them myself from Abu Dhabi as London office sends to them for dispatch locally. My mother was sick and i was in urgent need of passport so i traveled to abu dhabi for collecting pp.

Rahul Dutta said:
Does it comes through physical letter or an email on your registered ID?
 
Oct 24, 2012
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Abu Dhabi
Visa Office......
Lodnon
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14/12/2009
Doc's Request.
10/02/2010
IELTS Request
2010 (called recalled date)
File Transfer...
17/02/2010
Med's Request
05/11/2013 (not sure exactly)
Med's Done....
03/12/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13/12/2013
VISA ISSUED...
09/01/2014
LANDED..........
Soon InshaAllah
Rahul Dutta said:
Does it comes through physical letter or an email on your registered ID?
Rahul i got PPR right after 8 days of medical received by London Office, i got passport request through email. Our passport were received by LVO on Dec 30, 2013 and we still are waiting of our passports back with stamped visas.
 

Rahul Dutta

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Nov 20, 2009
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Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
Canadian Banking Summarised:

Ref : Qorax posts

Dear Friends,

As I had discussed earlier, plz be on the know that we can 'open' a Canadian Bank's a/c -right from here... in Dubai.

I know many International Banks also have this facility, like HSBC, RBS, StanChart etc. But, those banks are better 'avoided'. Why? 'Coz, due to their enormous charges, low interest rates & poor presence in Canada.

I suggest, go for 'Scotiabank'...
Why?
1. Huge presence in Canada. With ATMs in nearly all over the country [even in small towns].
2. Zero charges for 1 yr. [Free 1yr a/c].
3. Free Cheque book for a yr.
4. Free remittances for a yr.
5. Free 'Locker' for a yr.
6. Free Credit Card [deposit inked, Limited] for a yr.
7. Has a 'tailored-made' a/c for us -New Immigrants. [the 'Start Right' program].
8. All info @ www.startright.scotiabank.com.
9. Only 2 other banks have such presence, TD Bank & CIBC. [both do not have a scene here, in Dubai].

Why to open a/c here?
-For ease of carrying the 'landing funds'.
-We don't need to carry cash, draft, TCs, statements etc.
-And the money is immediate at hand in Canada.

HOW TO GET IT ORGANIZED IN DUBAI ?
HDFC Bank Representative Office is dealing with Scotiabank here. I have just touched base with them; and found their reps very helpful. For further info / action on the subject, plz note the following:
-Tel. no.: 04-3966991 [extn: 214]
-Contact Person: Ms. Tejal
-Currency deposited: AED
-Charges: NIL

More on it later...

Warm regards,


More Informations : Ref : Mtlguy

I guess Scotia bank is ok for a start but you might want to switch to a different bank before they start charging you a fee for using your own money.

I learned the details about banking in Canada the hard way. Paid more than 100$ in fees before finally switching to a bank with no fee what so ever.

I recommend you visit the websites of the following banks

Royal Bank of Canada (RBC)
TD Canada trust

HSBC (one of the best for immigrants...check out their passport account)
http://www.hsbc.ca/1/2/en/personal/chequing-savings/hsbc-passport

Scotia Bank (you have already checked this one)
CIBC
National Bank
Bank of Montreal (BMO)

On comparing the checking account types, you will find out that some banks charge a monthly fee for your checking account + an additional 60 cents if you exceed the limit of free transactions. You probably want to avoid this.

Some banks offer unlimited transactions if you have a certain balance e.g 2000$ or 3000$ and also have your monthly fee waived off. You might probably want to select one of these banks.

Once again...nothing wrong with Scotia bank...if you do open an account, ensure you switch it before then end of 1 yr.

By the way HSBC and TD are the only 2 banks that offer credit cards to immigrants who definitely do not have a credit history in Canada. If having a basic credit card is important you might want to consider these banks. Else the rest of the banks will provide you with a secured credit card.

If anybody needs any info on banking in canda pls feel free to ask...i'd be more than happy to find out if I dont know the answer.
 
Oct 24, 2012
17
0
Abu Dhabi
Visa Office......
Lodnon
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14/12/2009
Doc's Request.
10/02/2010
IELTS Request
2010 (called recalled date)
File Transfer...
17/02/2010
Med's Request
05/11/2013 (not sure exactly)
Med's Done....
03/12/2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13/12/2013
VISA ISSUED...
09/01/2014
LANDED..........
Soon InshaAllah
Another important point for future PRs moving to Canada is to get equivalency of their existing degree/certifications. If any body is interested in CPA and have assessment of degrees, then please share your experience.
 

Rahul Dutta

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Nov 20, 2009
80
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123
Chandigarh, Punjab, India
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111
App. Filed.......
2009
IELTS Request
2010
Med's Request
19-10-2013
Med's Done....
23-11-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
31-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
10-02-2014
LANDED..........
Still not decided
Experts,

Please tell me "Background checks" after medical. What does it include? and how many months it takes for Dubai Candidates. My Application is with London Visa office.