FSW and AEO

[tracker4u]

Hi all

I applied for FSW in Oct 2008 to Buffalo as an international student. I have completed my studies in Canada, so I have a postgraduate work permit. My E-cas is showing "in Process". But recently I was offered a full time job by a company/corporation that is included in 100 best company to work for in Canada. My concerns are:

How do I inform CIC of this development? Can I send/fax a copy of the job offer letter to CIC?
Would I need another letter from the company?
Can I submit them separately?
Would the job offer expedite my application process?

Am happy with the offer but am confused as how it will affect my application process.

Please I need advice and suggestions

 

[tracker4u]

Any advice/suggestions Leon, PMM, Seniors

 

[jes_ON]

If the offer is for full-time PERMANENT employment, then you can write a letter to CIC to update your file, make sure you show your file number. And include a copy of the letter (fax, mail is fine), make sure it has all the details (e.g. job title, NOC, salary, hours, PERMANENT....)

it won't HURT you and it may help you (if you're close on points, for example - this would give you extra points). Also, if they process you as Cat 2, you do not need to show proof of funds. Hard to say what stage in processing you are at, and if they would change it...

 

[Beckyca]

Hi All,

Is proof of advertisement or other recruitment required for AEO application?

thx

 

[jes_ON]

That depends. It does require an LMO, but as for proof of recruitment effort, generally, no. But for some positions (like academic), it does. By AEO, you understand it means that you cannot start the job until you have received your permanent residence visa...

 

[Beckyca]

Thx.
I understand that. Otherwise, that will be LMO.

 

[jes_ON]

Becky - you understood that? Geez, I didn't Let me try again...

There are 2 types of "arranged employment" - one is with an AEO (the other with the LMO, temp work permit, and offer of permanent employment.) AEO does NOT require an LMO (that's for the other route), and does not have the same advertising requirements as an LMO.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/poarremp.shtml

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/forms/emp5275e.pdf

 

[people]

Hi jes_ON,
It seems tht u ve perfect knowledge abt AEO.I also ve got a question for you regarding an AEO.I ve also started a separate thread for the same but cant get attention of any so (with excuse to the OP),kindly answer to my query ,which s mentioned below.


I am a July 2007 London applicant.I submitted my docs to London on 5th of October 2009.I have received an AEO from a Canadian Employer .My prospective employer is my real brother who is a PR of Canada.He owns a company in Canada.By profession he is a surgeon and currently his business consists of his practice only and his company has got 3 employees already.I am working as a Quality Assurance Manager in a large company from the past 5 yrs.My brother wants to expand his business and get ISO certification for his company.For this purpose he wants to hire me as an ISO Consultant/Quality assurance Manager and has send me an HRSDC approved AEO.He has send me the job offer letter on behalf of his company on his company letterhead alongwith the AEO letter approved by HRSDC which I ve already submitted to CIC.Now just today I have received an email from London office alongwith an attachment of an official letter regarding some additional documents.Plz suggest why CIC has requested me these additional docs. abt my AEO,are they doubtful or its usual.
As I am not using any consultant/immigration lawyer for my case, so pl kindly help me in responding to CIC 's queries.I am pretty concerned abt Q #1,3,4,6 & 7.
As asked in question#3,as why an employee is being sought out of Canada ,how I was found to qualify and offered a job.Wht shd I write to CIC as
I just got this job due to my personal contact to my brother ,he simply needed a person and I had the experience for the job.As it was an AEO n not LMO so he didnt advertise for the job so he could prove tht any Canadian was not available for the job?
I am pasting the letter below,plz advise e regarding the questions #s which I ve mentioned above.
Thanks n regards

Dear Applicant,
This refers to your application for permanent residence. Please be sure that you read this letter carefully
and provide precisely what is being requested; if you provide incorrect or incomplete information, it may result in
your application being delayed or refused.
Your application may be processed more quickly, outside the regular queue for skilled worker
applications, if you can show that you meet the requirements of Regulation 82(2) of the Immigration and
Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) and Regulations of 2002. You need to provide the following ( T ) information to
assist with our assessment:
1. ( __ ) a current job offer letter from the prospective employer in Canada, explaining in detail: exactly what is
the job on offer (position, duties, salary, place in company, etc.)
2. ( __ ) documentation from the prospective employer to demonstrate that their business operations are
ongoing and will be able to provide you with sustained employment if you obtain an immigrant visa. Such
documentation could include: photographs of their business premises, business licence/registration, payroll,
recent tax statements, trading accounts, company history, etc. The employer may already have provided similar
information to Service Canada, but it is required now in the context of evaluating the genuineness of the job
offer as part of your visa application. The employer should include details of any other foreign nationals they
have hired after having obtained a job confirmation from Service Canada. The employer may send this
information directly to our office .
3. ( __ ) a full and detailed explanation from the prospective employer of the process by which the vacancy
came about in the employer's company, why an employee is being sought from outside Canada, and how you
were found to qualify for and subsequently offered the job
4. ( __ ) a letter from you, explaining in detail the process by which you obtained the job offer from Canada
5. ( __ ) a reference from your current employer, explaining your job duties
6. ( __ ) your own description of your qualifying experience. Please write your own detailed explanation,
including examples of how you accomplished each task as stated in your job description.
7. ( __ ) a full and detailed explanation from you of how your qualifications and experience are relevant to the
job being offered, and how you will be able to perform the job in Canada.
You should send this information within 90 days of the date of this letter. If you can demonstrate that you
meet the requirements of R82, you will be awarded an additional 10 points under arranged employment, plus 5
points for adaptability on the selection grid under IRPA, and processing of your application will be prioritized.

 

[jes_ON]

No, no - not "perfect" by a long shot. But I do try to help.

They ask for this extra info because:
(1) there is some fraud with regards to AEO.
(2) If there has been some time since your brother applied for the AEO, they want to confirm that all the information is still valid.
(3) It is possible that since he is your brother, they do not believe that it is a "real" job offer.

That's a lot of paperwork, but if you are able to convince them in writing, they may waive the interview (that's the "up" side).

#1 - this should not be difficult, just have your brother update it and confirm that the job offer is still valid. MAKE sure the letter contains all the required information.

#2 - Again, if your brother already submitted this to HRSDC, it should not be difficult (make sure all documents are up-to-date.

#3 - Be honest! But make sure to emphasize professional considerations. They just want to know it is genuine. Do not worry about advertising, etc. it is not required. If the process doesn't "make sense," then they may reject it. So just be honest.

#4 - Same as #3

#5 - just get it updated. If applicable, be sure that all job duties relevant to the AEO are well described.

#6 - Yikes! But actually, the good thing is that it's about ISO, an international process, same everywhere, yes? I'm sure you can make a convincing case...

Just take one at a time...

 

[people]

Thanks very much jes_ON, for your prompt response ,time and effort.
I might be needing some help from you in future .
Now just a quick question ,in yor view what could be best possible reply/answer from my canadian employer(my brother infact)to the below mentioned query?

Why an employee is being sought from outside Canada?

I need to mention tht my brother is living in a small city in Alberta(almost having a population of around 20,000)and in future he wants to expand his business by setting up a multi speciality clinic and needs my services for the expansion of his business(as he is neuro spinal consultant surgeon and remains very busy),attaining and maintaing the ISO certifications for his company.

Your advice and suggestion will be highly appreciated.

 

[jes_ON]

I expect your brother will know the best way to answer that.

- why he needs ISO certification (is this a new requirement?)
- Availability of qualified personnel - I can't seem to find very much info on quality assurance/management as a career in Canada, but I suspect that there aren't that many, certainly not in a smaller town. (Of course I don't know how well your experience matches your brother's business...

Since he didn't attempt to recruit, he could simply say something like - I happened to know the best person for the job, and he/she just happened to be outside of Canada...

But again, your brother will know the best response.

 

[people]

Thanks very much for your suggestion n guidance.

regards