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[sumitpal22]

Hi All,

After reading some of the comments in dis forum which says few applications retured due to insufficent evidences, i am bit nervous now as my experience had following details

1. Tenure
2. Designation
3. Number of hours
4. Roles n responsibilities
5. Salary
6. All the above on companies letter head

Will this be sufficient as i have not attached any other document like salary slips etc?
Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks

This will do. other documents are optional. So dont worry.

 

[prishad]

Hi All,

After reading some of the comments in dis forum which says few applications retured due to insufficent evidences, i am bit nervous now as my experience had following details

1. Tenure
2. Designation
3. Number of hours
4. Roles n responsibilities
5. Salary
6. All the above on companies letter head

Will this be sufficient as i have not attached any other document like salary slips etc?
Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks

As seniors here have told that salary slips are optional .. Unless the experience is on your company's letter head and signed by your employer it shouldnt be a hassle .. Wish you luck !!

 

[ggmunpl]

How do you know that? Did they verify your's?

Nops but knew thru my cnsult....

 

[ankbat]

Congrats and +1 to you !!

How did u come to know when your dd encashed?

 

[aneel]

This will do. other documents are optional. So dont worry.

Thanks,

 

[Bigbang2014]

HI,

I got per email on 8th Nov. But no MR has received yet. So should I send inquiry email to NDVO or wait for few days?

 

[duanestorey]

Higher taxes in US?

There are a lot of hidden taxes in the states, such as FICA, which can be as much as 6% of your gross. None of that factors in health care too, which is free (or almost free) for most Canadians, and often amounts to $4000-$5000 per year per person in the United States.

 

[alwaysonnet]

My brother cc was charged on Sunday night.

Noc 1212 ndvo

October 1 app date

 

[Gsw]

1. I disagree with this. I know lots of small business owners in Canada and they are all open minded when it comes to hiring. Most of them are overworked and they would love nothing more than to have someone help with the business. But it's up to you to sell yourself and prove that you can do the job. Every resume an employer gets for a job is likely to have all the experience necessary (at least on paper) for the job - you have to prove during the interview that you are the one who can do it. If you just expect to show up and get a job, you'll need to work harder at it.

4. I am not sure what types of jobs you are looking for, but the only jobs that could potentially care about making money by sending you to courses are government jobs, and I doubt you are applying for those. For the rest of the businesses, they are likely mostly small businesses, and none of them would benefit from you spending money going to school. Put yourself in the employer's shoes - how do they know the experience you listed on your resume is legitimate? For all they know you could have just made it all up. At least with Canadian employers they can pick up the phone and make a few phone calls. You need to show them during the interview you know what you are talking about. It will likely be harder for you to get the job you want in Canada than someone local, but this is obvious - they have a better grasp of the language, the culture, and their experience was all in Canada. You can still get a job, but you may have to work harder to get it.

5. Health care in Canada could use some work, without a doubt. But it's accessible for everyone, unlike countries like the USA>

7. Smoking is unfortunately common amongst adults in eastern Canada, especially around Quebec and Toronto. It's much rarer in the west, such as in Vancouver.

Nobody DESERVES a job just because they did the process or they showed up. Small business owners take risk when they hire someone, and the expectation is that they can do the job and help make the company a profit. If you can't do that, or can't prove you can do that during the interview, then you won't get hired.

8. This country has lot of natural resources, and the economy is surviving just based on those natural resources which this country is gifted with, but in reality jobs market is a mess here and people rarely change jobs here unless they are fired. firing is very very common in jobs here, unless you work with very good indian companies which never fire emplyees.

Firing is only common in Canada if an employee fails to do the job they were hired for. In many companies, you will get three written warnings before being fired, which allows you to have a chance to improve. But the reality is if you consistently underperform you will likely get fired from your job.

9) Canada has the 11th largest GDP in the world - if that constitutes a village to you in terms of a job market, then so be it.

11. I know lots of companies in Canada that have hired immigrants. I am sorry you have had a hard time finding a job, but many others succeed.

14. Most Canadians I know would not want to work in the United States for various reasons. Sure you can get a higher paying job there, but you often pay higher taxes, and health care can be $400-$500 per month.

No offence, but have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem you are having is with your expectations and attitude? Have you called any of the 6-7 employers that you had interviews with and asked why you didn't get the job? Most of them would probably be honest with you. Maybe there is something about your experience or things you said during the interview that they didn't like? If you call them up, you can get the opportunity to discuss and possible improve for your next interview.

You can also check out the NACC, http://nacc.ca/alternative-career-pathways/acp/, Alternative Career Pathways, which is an organization that helps skilled immigrants get skilled jobs.

Sorry for your experience and frustration. I know you have worked hard to get to Canada and hoped you would immediately get a job. If you contact those employers though perhaps you can get a better understanding of their thought process during the interview and potentially make adjustments for your next ones.

Good discussion

Keep throwing difference of opinion, that's most benefetial for people like us ;-)

 

[Jaxon911]

1. I disagree with this. I know lots of small business owners in Canada and they are all open minded when it comes to hiring. Most of them are overworked and they would love nothing more than to have someone help with the business. But it's up to you to sell yourself and prove that you can do the job. Every resume an employer gets for a job is likely to have all the experience necessary (at least on paper) for the job - you have to prove during the interview that you are the one who can do it. If you just expect to show up and get a job, you'll need to work harder at it.

4. I am not sure what types of jobs you are looking for, but the only jobs that could potentially care about making money by sending you to courses are government jobs, and I doubt you are applying for those. For the rest of the businesses, they are likely mostly small businesses, and none of them would benefit from you spending money going to school. Put yourself in the employer's shoes - how do they know the experience you listed on your resume is legitimate? For all they know you could have just made it all up. At least with Canadian employers they can pick up the phone and make a few phone calls. You need to show them during the interview you know what you are talking about. It will likely be harder for you to get the job you want in Canada than someone local, but this is obvious - they have a better grasp of the language, the culture, and their experience was all in Canada. You can still get a job, but you may have to work harder to get it.

5. Health care in Canada could use some work, without a doubt. But it's accessible for everyone, unlike countries like the USA>

7. Smoking is unfortunately common amongst adults in eastern Canada, especially around Quebec and Toronto. It's much rarer in the west, such as in Vancouver.

Nobody DESERVES a job just because they did the process or they showed up. Small business owners take risk when they hire someone, and the expectation is that they can do the job and help make the company a profit. If you can't do that, or can't prove you can do that during the interview, then you won't get hired.

8. This country has lot of natural resources, and the economy is surviving just based on those natural resources which this country is gifted with, but in reality jobs market is a mess here and people rarely change jobs here unless they are fired. firing is very very common in jobs here, unless you work with very good indian companies which never fire emplyees.

Firing is only common in Canada if an employee fails to do the job they were hired for. In many companies, you will get three written warnings before being fired, which allows you to have a chance to improve. But the reality is if you consistently underperform you will likely get fired from your job.

9) Canada has the 11th largest GDP in the world - if that constitutes a village to you in terms of a job market, then so be it.

11. I know lots of companies in Canada that have hired immigrants. I am sorry you have had a hard time finding a job, but many others succeed.

14. Most Canadians I know would not want to work in the United States for various reasons. Sure you can get a higher paying job there, but you often pay higher taxes, and health care can be $400-$500 per month.

No offence, but have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem you are having is with your expectations and attitude? Have you called any of the 6-7 employers that you had interviews with and asked why you didn't get the job? Most of them would probably be honest with you. Maybe there is something about your experience or things you said during the interview that they didn't like? If you call them up, you can get the opportunity to discuss and possible improve for your next interview.

You can also check out the NACC, http://nacc.ca/alternative-career-pathways/acp/, Alternative Career Pathways, which is an organization that helps skilled immigrants get skilled jobs.

Sorry for your experience and frustration. I know you have worked hard to get to Canada and hoped you would immediately get a job. If you contact those employers though perhaps you can get a better understanding of their thought process during the interview and potentially make adjustments for your next ones.

Western Canada may not have problems with smoke but drug is a real problem in BC, especially Vancouver. You're talking quiet a bit about SMALL businesses, which isn't fair comparison because not everyone wants to work for SMALL businesses. One may wish to work REAL big businesses. Healthcare is a problem everywhere in the world, even in USA you'd not find it great unless you pay hefty sum for the same. Which you can do even in Canada, as one can get private healthcare on top of public one by paying for discounted insurance (because it doesn't cover basic services which are covered by public health cover).

Can't comment on everything above but one should know that no country is easy to migrate, may be USA is relatively better option in terms of career prospects but US isn't easy to get into in the first place.

Most of 1st generation immigrants I know here in the UK keeps saying crap about UK for years, and still they're not returning home. Most of them don't have skills or qualifications to find a good job here. Age is an important factor. It's easy to migrate and adapt to new conditions in 20's or early 30's, after that it's difficult. To find a good job locally, one has to localize and adapt to local customs, otherwise everyone will keep getting impression that you're still an outsider living here because you don't have any other option.

Imagine you're a Canadian, would you like third-world foreigner to come over and force their culture and customs on you or at least you'd expect them to adapt to local culture and customs? That's why CIC specifically awards more points for those in 20s because they are far more likely to adapt.

 

[sk1984indian]

My brother cc was charged on Sunday night.

Noc 1212 ndvo

October 1 app date

Congratulations to your brother my friend ..

 

[pandu123]

Verification generally happens after PER and before MR . They can however verify a case at any point of time , but that happens for very few cases , not all .

If they verify all cases again after MR/PCC/RPRF, that would result in heavy backlog .

Please find below details provided by formuties

Quote from: Diplomatru on December 11, 2014, 03:04:34 am
First line is displayed after Data Entry, the step following Cost recovery at CIO. This is when an electronic file is created in GCMS. PER, AOR and file transfer don't trigger a CAS update.

Second line appears when the assigned IPA opens file in GCMS and begins processing it by initiating document verification and criminality check. Upon completion he/she sends MR.

Third line appears when medical results are received and approved by CIC. Then IPA launches security check.

Fourth line appears upon completion of security checks and final determination of admissability and eligibility by IPA. As a result an applicant generally receives PPR
Quote from: cjg1987 on December 01, 2014, 02:17:43 am

Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks.

Standard Documentation Checks:
Our background check is done at the CHC stage. It commences the moment our file gets the 1st BFD by the VO. An indicator of which is the e-CAS that shows "In Progress". All docs been checked & our NOC being tallied against the MI, if the VO finds our case 'eligible' for Canadian PR, the file becomes 'Accepted'; and then it goes for standard background checks, viz. Exp, Quals, Adaptability, Qualitative Considerations etc.

The process involves many things. If our case file is well presented and the enclosures vouch the quality-quantity, adequate POF docs etc., there might not be a requirement of 'actually' calling the employers, references etc. The VOs have a way with that, they are experienced enough to ascertain the logical disposition of our case. But, if there are any concerns of his/her, s/he is likely to ask for additional docs, do further scrutiny vide any means [calling, visiting etc.] & might ask for an Interview.

-Culmination: When 'fully' satisfied, we get the 'Medical Request'.
-Timeframe: Can be anything around 3-8* months, for the 'fast track' system (Avg. 4-5 months).
-eCAS: Continues to Show 'In Process'.


Security & Criminality Checks:
A part of the b/ground checks is the 'Security Check'. It commences after our med results are submitted to the CHC. This is a major activity -mainly concerning our 'safe inclusion' into the Canadian Soil; vis-a-vis, Political, Socio-Econmical, Anti-Social disposition, perceived Threat to Canada's integrity etc. This gets us the SDEC, CDEC & SECCRIM.

This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including CSIS, Interpol, NASC, Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here... the No. of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, ex-Servicemen [including Law Enforcement services], Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc.

If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', our case goes into a 'spin'. Then our file might go to the local Police/CID agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over by 5 months max. However, a point to be noted is that we can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason.

 

[Gsw]

@ prashanth reddy , vidhi, kashish_v, capok, calgary14,adisu And other people who have received their PER in May/June and early July and have not yet received their MR

My Timeline PER:21st Oct
2nd Line updated on :5th Dec

NO MR YET ...

Guys, since it is a very anxious state to be in, I am planning to start a whtsapp group just to keep in touch with ppl who are in similar situation. If you want to be added into the group, please PM me. That ways, we would remain continuously updated about the ongoing trend tht similar cases are experiencing.

Cheers-Mambo

You can add my name also in this prestigious list

4th June applicant

No MR
Not even 2nd line

Don't know what's in the kitty of Santa claus (for me)

 

[jattjalandhar7]

No PPR from ndvo today??....

 

[angel22]

Have anyone receive their PER who had their dd cashed on the 28th NOV????