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From oath to passport in <72 hours -- the culmination of an arduous journey of almost 2 years

illiterate_professor

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Hey folks (or shall I say fellow travellers?)!

I have been a regular on this forum for 6 years now (since when I applied for PR from the US in the early days of Express Entry in 2015), and I can't thank all of you enough for the useful insights you have share here. However, I don't post much - in fact I barely posted anything up until recently. So I decided to share with you my experience now that it is behind me (to say that I'm relieved will be an understatement, of course) as a way of thanking you. Here is the TL;DR version - I had my oath ceremony on Wednesday, Dec. 1st between 9-11 am, and I had my (fresh off-the-press!) Canadian passport in my hands at approx. 3.30 pm on Friday, Dec. 3rd. Read on to find out how!

First, some background. I applied in Jan. 2020 (app. received by IRCC on Jan. 22, 2020), and received AOR on Mar. 13. I don't have to remind you what happened a few days later (read: COVID-19 literally brought the world, including IRCC, to a grinding halt). IIRC I received an update on Sep. 20 stating IRCC started working on my application (aka status = in-progress). TBH, by end of 2020, I didn't have much hope left on this process coming to an end anytime soon. I had to move to Europe (let'd not get into the details of which country) in January 2021 for a new job. Coincidentally, by the time I moved, it had been 12 months (the ETA given on IRCC's website for citizenship applications) when I moved.

When moving, I had mentally prepared myself of the possibility of me having to travel to Canada (on really short notice) to take the citizenship test, and eventually for the oath ceremony. I kept reading stories of how folks had to ask to reschedule their test, travel on a day's notice, etc., and I figured I'd be one of those when the time came. Anyway, the time did come - in late-June - when I received a notice to take the test within 21 days. I was not vaccinated at this point, and was apprehensive of international travel (having gone through it already in January, and believe me when I say it is not pleasant). So I immediately wrote back to IRCC (on the same email address from which I'd received the notice) explaining my situation, and asking them to reschedule my test, if possible, to mid-August or later since I expected to be vaccinated by then. To my (pleasant) surprise, they wrote back the next day advising me to take the test from outside Canada, and to select "Yes" in response to the question that asked whether I was physically present in Canada, though they acknowledged I was located outside Canada (they also said they'd be rolling out software changes to rectify this shortly). I gathered from reading posts on this forum that it was right around that time that they had made this policy change, and I may even have been among one of the first ones to benefit from this change. Lady luck! Anyhow, I took the test sometime in mid-July (~2.5 weeks after getting the invite). I spent a good 6-8 hours studying the book, and taking practice tests, and got 20/20 on the test (the only time you'll hear me brag through this whole post!). The test status turned complete in <2 days, and back to "in progress" a few days later for which I wrote IRCC only to never hear back from them on it.

After the test, I braced myself for a long period of radio silence. The only problem was my PR card was expiring in mid-October. So I wrote IRCC again with a plea for help, but received the standard fare response after waiting for ~5 days. Fast forward to the US Thanksgiving Day (yes, we celebrate the Canadian and the US Thanksgiving days while living in a third country!), and I saw my inbox light up with an invite to appear for oath on Dec 1st. I was happy and excited, but more so anxious as to how I was going to manage the logistics, including dealing with the fact that my PR card had already expired. My plan? Fly to Seattle, and drive up to Vancouver where I lived before moving (Surrey was handling my case), since the only way to get in with an expired PR card was via the land border (I still met my RO). One negative Covid test, and 2 international flights later, I found myself in Seattle on the afternoon of Nov. 30th driving north on I-5 to Vancouver, BC. I crossed the Pacific Hwy Border, and despite being in the Nexus lane, the system must have flagged that something was off with my PR card. I told the officer it had expired, and that I was going back to take the oath of citizenship (among other questions that I answered). He nicely asked me to park my car, and go inside the office building. The officer inside was equally nice, and after inquiring the details, and checking my paperwork (including the inivite for oath ceremony, my CoPR, etc.), he told me "Please have a seat while I verify everything in the system, and I'll have you on your way out shortly." True to his words, 10 mins later, he asked me to come over, gave me the documents back, wished me good luck for the ceremony, and asked me "I hope its all worth the trouble, right?" to which I obviously said yes (and meant it too!). BTW, he was also confused as to why IRCC won't just let me take the oath from Europe (the ceremony was going to be on Zoom anyway). My response? I don't fully understand or agree, but I respect their decision! And I was on my way to my hotel where I'd take the oath of citizenship (over Zoom) next morning.

Some horrible internet connectivity at the hotel, yelling at the front desk, and last minute scramble to switch rooms later, I finally went through the ceremony (with a few internet-driven interruptions on my end) almost entirely missing the recital of oath in French (I was lucky I did not miss the English one, or I'd have had to be rescheduled for who knows when! and in which case I'd have not been particularly kind to the hotel management). I'll spare you the details of the ceremony, a lot of people have posted about it, and my experience pretty much tracks with the general feedback on the experience i.e. seminal moment, hard to keep your emotions to yourself, cutting your PR card into pieces, etc. Before the official oath proceedings, the clerk asked me if I had any plans to travel within next 2 weeks, and I told her I had tickets to fly back to Erurope for Sunday (Dec 5th) morning so I could get back to my job on Monday. She said I can come pick up the citizenship certificate from the Surrey office on Friday between 12-3 pm, and reminded me to send the proof of itinerary (along with receipt of paid tickets), and documentary evidence showing the travel was for a legitimate reason, and not just for leisure, when sending the signed oath letter. I obliged, and did as instructed.

Now that I had the certificate situation under control, I got to work on the next thing on my list - the Canadian passport. I started calling the 1800 number with no luck at first. I would get tossed around from one person to another, then wait for ~10-15 mins, and then again. I did this a few times, and after spending ~3 hours (including once waiting for 55 mins to hear from a human again), I gave up for the day. I also filled out the online form on the passport agency's website asking someone to call me (their ETA, as you might already know, is 48 hours). The next day (i.e. Thursday), I started calling again, and I believe on the second attempt I finally got hold of someone who said they could help me. I explained my situation to which she said, "it is going to be tight, and I'm not making any promises whatsoever, but we'll try our best to help you". She asked when was the earliest I could get my citizenship certificate, and I told her 12 pm on Friday (Dec. 3), so she booked me an appointment for 12.30 pm on Friday at the Surrey Passport Office (which luckily is only only 3-4 mins. drive from the IRCC office). I thanked her, and made sure I had the forms filled and everything else ready ahead of time.

Come Dec. 3, I got to the IRCC office by 12.10 pm (took me a while to find the office after parking), left as soon as I was done receiving the citizenship certificate at around 12.30 pm. I arrived at the passport office around 12.40 pm, and the gentleman at one of the counters walked me through the process, including how they'll call the guarantor and 2 references within the next hour since this is an urgent processing request. I had my guarantor on stand by outside the passport office, and asked the officer if he was okay to physically verify the gurantor in person instead of calling them. He agreed, so all that was left was verifying the 2 references. He submitted my application, and asked me to be back by 3.30 pm to collect my passport (the office closes at 4 pm only to open back up on Monday morning, so this was critical information). As soon as I stepped out of the passport office, I texted and called my references to give them heads up that they'd be receiving a call shortly from the passport office. Unfortunately for me, one of the references fell through because their phone gave up that very morning. So I called my back up reference who agreed to receive a call from the passport office on such short notice. I went back inside the office, told them about what happened, and they made me fill out my new reference's details on a form, and the reference received a call shortly after to confirm. Thus, all the references were confirmed.

I showed up at 3.30 pm as instructed, and they handed me my new Canadian passport! As stressful and tiring the (2-year long) journey might have been to get to that point, I was thankful to Canada as a nation, and proud to call it my new home! I'll be back someday soon, and never again have to worry about applying to another immigration/visa related document so long as I live in Canada.

Good luck to all those who are still waiting (some perhaps for longer than I have). All I can say is - don't lose hope, it will definitely be worth it!
 

PEQ2013

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What a journey! Thank you for sharing your story. It's good to know that you can get your passport within 72 hours after oath. I also applied in January, but still waiting. I may be outside the country for a couple of months next year, so your experience really helps me to mentally prepare what I may have to do!
 

chs

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TL;DR version - I had my oath ceremony on Wednesday, Dec. 1st between 9-11 am, and I had my (fresh off-the-press!) Canadian passport in my hands at approx. 3.30 pm on Friday, Dec. 3rd. Read on to find out how!
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That is one heck of a story, wow! Would that I could have gotten mine in 72 hours, although, with all the aggravation you've had, I'm not sure I would have wanted that!
 

illiterate_professor

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That is one heck of a story, wow! Would that I could have gotten mine in 72 hours, although, with all the aggravation you've had, I'm not sure I would have wanted that!
True! I thought I'd just give it my best shot, and if it still does not go through in time, I will apply from the Canadian Embassy in Europe.
 

chs

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True! I thought I'd just give it my best shot, and if it still does not go through in time, I will apply from the Canadian Embassy in Europe.
I should have mine in a couple of days, so long as Omicron doesn't result in them closing the passport offices. *crosses fingers*
 

dipantika

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May 10, 2017
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Woww, that's quite a journey!! Congratulations @illiterate_professor for the happy ending finally!

If I may ask you a couple of questions -

How was your experience with you taking up a job in another country whilst your citizenship application was in process? Did it affect your application in any way? I have been reading about this "intent to reside" clause or something similar and am honestly quite stressed as I just submitted my citizenship application but would be starting a new job in another country in a couple of months. How and when did you go about informing IRCC about your country change?

If you could please respond that would be really helpful.

Thanks!!
 

ana0911

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Congratulations and u must say that was fast.So I had my oath on the 13th of December and during the oath I told the clerk I needed to travel and she said she will see what she can do.Fast forward during the swearing of the oath was having problems with my internet connection so I was muted from the ceremony and was told to wait.After the ceremony I was connected to the clerk to swear the oath but still had problems..so the clerk had to call my cell phone to swear the oath over the phone.I must say she was a very nice person and was very helpful.So I swore the oath over the phone and she told me to email her a copy of my ticket with the oath forms signed and she will try to Expediate my certificate so I did and she told me she will express my certificate on Tuesday the 14th December,I received the certificate on Wednesday the 15th and same walk in passport Canada office in Whitby to submit My passport and paid for the express and was told passport will be ready for pick up on the 24th of December.I called passport Canada on Monday to let them know my travel plans had changed so I needed to leave the country the 24th and if it’s possible to have my passport picked on either Tuesday the 21st or Wednesday the 22nd of December.After a long hold he came and told me passport has already been approved and she will have someone call me from the Whitby office.Within an hour I was called from Whitby office and was told to go pick up the passport from Scarborough on Tuesday the 22nd.Got there are lunch gave them my slip and picked up my passport.
It wasn’t an easy journey but I Thank God all this is over for me and I am grateful to God for seeing me through and finally a Canadian citizen.I love this country very much and all the good opportunities it offers.I wish all those waiting the best of luck.BTW I am a July 2020 Applicant.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone.Stay safe and God bless Y’all.
 

illiterate_professor

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Woww, that's quite a journey!! Congratulations @illiterate_professor for the happy ending finally!

If I may ask you a couple of questions -

How was your experience with you taking up a job in another country whilst your citizenship application was in process? Did it affect your application in any way? I have been reading about this "intent to reside" clause or something similar and am honestly quite stressed as I just submitted my citizenship application but would be starting a new job in another country in a couple of months. How and when did you go about informing IRCC about your country change?

If you could please respond that would be really helpful.

Thanks!!
Thank you!

To answer your question - I don't believe moving to another country while the citizenship application was in progress affected my application in any way (of course, I have no way to be 100% sure, but my timeline more or less tracked with 50th percentile of Jan. 2020 applicants that I came across on this forum, so reasonable to assume there was no impact because of the move). In addition, like I mentioned in my original post, I moved literally 1 year after my application. IIRC, IRCC still commits to, at least on paper, to processing citizenship applications within 365 days. So there you go! In general though, you're well within your rights to move abroad while your application is still in process, and IRCC says so on their website (I'm sure you'll find numerous threads on this forum where folks have quoted, and linked, original IRCC text).

I believe I wrote to IRCC (via webform) a few weeks after moving to inform them of the move, and also asked them to change my address on file to a friend's address (in Canada) for communication purposes. They responded by confirming that they had forwarded my request to update address to the concerned department, and advised me that I "can notify us [them] of your [my] period of unavailability and request that the responsible IRCC office does not schedule an appointment during this time frame", and shared the steps to do so. I did not do anything because doing that would have effectively meant asking them to put my application on hold. I was prepared to fly back to Canada to take the test and oath with the shortest possible notice. Like I mentioned earlier, I only ended up having to fly once for the oath.

I hope this addresses your queries, and good luck with your application! Be honest and upfront with IRCC, so you don't have to "make things up" later on :)
 
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Great story!!

What did they mean by show legitimate intentions of traveling? I have also moved to the southern US and just got AOR so I was wondering I might fall in the similar situation once I get my oath and can't wait for days to receive the citizenship certificate.

Thanks,
 

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Great story!!

What did they mean by show legitimate intentions of traveling? I have also moved to the southern US and just got AOR so I was wondering I might fall in the similar situation once I get my oath and can't wait for days to receive the citizenship certificate.

Thanks,
OP needed to go back to work the following Monday.
 

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I didn’t know you can pick the citizenship certificate in the office. I’d have had done it. I think Canadá Post lost my certificate already …
 

illiterate_professor

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I didn’t know you can pick the citizenship certificate in the office. I’d have had done it. I think Canadá Post lost my certificate already …
Neither was I. I knew of urgent processing for the certificate (not to be confused with urgent processing of the application), but for some reason I assumed (or maybe someone here shared) that they'd overnight it via Canada Post Express. So that was sort of a pleasant surprise, and gave me a lot more confidence that I'd perhaps be able to pull all of this off in a matter of a few days. That said, I won't be surprised if they reserve the option to pick up in person only for cases with expedited processing of the certificate.
 

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Neither was I. I knew of urgent processing for the certificate (not to be confused with urgent processing of the application), but for some reason I assumed (or maybe someone here shared) that they'd overnight it via Canada Post Express. So that was sort of a pleasant surprise, and gave me a lot more confidence that I'd perhaps be able to pull all of this off in a matter of a few days. That said, I won't be surprised if they reserve the option to pick up in person only for cases with expedited processing of the certificate.
I wasn’t able to travel because I didn’t have a valid passport. But my travel wasn’t essential so I didn’t ask for urgent process for the certificate
 

dipantika

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Thank you!

To answer your question - I don't believe moving to another country while the citizenship application was in progress affected my application in any way (of course, I have no way to be 100% sure, but my timeline more or less tracked with 50th percentile of Jan. 2020 applicants that I came across on this forum, so reasonable to assume there was no impact because of the move). In addition, like I mentioned in my original post, I moved literally 1 year after my application. IIRC, IRCC still commits to, at least on paper, to processing citizenship applications within 365 days. So there you go! In general though, you're well within your rights to move abroad while your application is still in process, and IRCC says so on their website (I'm sure you'll find numerous threads on this forum where folks have quoted, and linked, original IRCC text).

I believe I wrote to IRCC (via webform) a few weeks after moving to inform them of the move, and also asked them to change my address on file to a friend's address (in Canada) for communication purposes. They responded by confirming that they had forwarded my request to update address to the concerned department, and advised me that I "can notify us [them] of your [my] period of unavailability and request that the responsible IRCC office does not schedule an appointment during this time frame", and shared the steps to do so. I did not do anything because doing that would have effectively meant asking them to put my application on hold. I was prepared to fly back to Canada to take the test and oath with the shortest possible notice. Like I mentioned earlier, I only ended up having to fly once for the oath.

I hope this addresses your queries, and good luck with your application! Be honest and upfront with IRCC, so you don't have to "make things up" later on :)
Thanks for your reply!! That's good to hear. Yes the intention is to be 100% transparent with them about the move, as it's going to be a 2-3 year contract and not a permanent one! And we're ofcourse prepared to fly down for the test and oath. Hopefully all goes well