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Free movement proposed between Canada, New Zealand, U.K, Australia

tiarachel85

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/free-movement-proposed-between-canada-u-k-australia-new-zealand-1.2998105
 

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tiarachel85 said:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/free-movement-proposed-between-canada-u-k-australia-new-zealand-1.2998105
I think Canada will have to take a position on either go towards Common wealth country route or North American Union (US, Canada and Mexico). Looking at the whole geo-political landscape, culture etc. it is better-off with Americas then EU/Common wealth.
 

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US/CANADA almost are there. The special visa for work, little restrictions for long term staying.

But I won't be against any additional benefits of being a Canadian.

vinaypuri said:
I think Canada will have to take a position on either go towards Common wealth country route or North American Union (US, Canada and Mexico). Looking at the whole geo-political landscape, culture etc. it is better-off with Americas then EU/Common wealth.
 

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Many Canadians would be happy if that happens. Unfortunately for now the Canadian passport allows free movement and jobs without visas and permits only in......... Canada.
 

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MUFC said:
Many Canadians would be happy if that happens. Unfortunately for now the Canadian passport allows free movement and jobs without visas and permits only in......... Canada.
ha ha ha I hold my breath to your ...... thing :p i thought for a moment 'USA' ha ha ha
 

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That's the funny thing, Canadians actually don't have freedom of movement and freedom to work without visas and permits in none of the other top countries.
 

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MUFC said:
That's the funny thing, Canadians actually don't have freedom of movement and freedom to work without visas and permits in none of the other top countries.
That is because every other countries requires Canadian to have work/visa permits to work in their countries. So it makes sense to reciprocate the work visa requirements.

There is however freedom of movement in terms of being able to visit visa free in other countries. Other than study/work visas, there is freedom of movement.
 

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You are talking about visa free access mainly used for short term tourist visits.

Freedom of movement is when you pick up your luggage today and going to live and work in another country without any visas or work permits. There is no restrictions when we are talking about freedom of movement.
 

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MUFC said:
You are talking about visa free access mainly used for short term tourist visits.

Freedom of movement is when you pick up your luggage today and going to live and work in another country without any visas or work permits. There is no restrictions when we are talking about freedom of movement.
That is why I said there is freedom of movement when it comes to VISITING another country. Working/Studying is another matter. Again you like to cherry picking the term of "freedom of movement" to only applying to working/studying in another country without visas when it suits you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement

Freedom of movement, mobility rights or the right to travel is a human right concept that the constitutions of numerous states respect. As expressed in article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it asserts that:

a citizen of a state in which that citizen is present has the liberty to travel, reside in, and/or work in any part of the state where one pleases within the limits of respect for the liberty and rights of others,[1]

and that a citizen also has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country at any time[2]
 

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Thank God that Canadians can at least Visit the other developed nations. But it seem that for many Canadians this is not enough.
 

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Thank God that Canadians can at least Visit the other developed nations. But it seem that for many Canadians this is not enough.
Only for Canadians that want to work/study in other countries that is not enough for them. This number of Canadians may be not fit your definition of "Many Canadians". I think a majority of Canadians are happy living in Canada and are also happy to have freedom of movement to VISIT other countries. Suit them just fine.
 

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Of course that 99% of the Canadians prefer to have only short term tourist visits and the pleasure to know that they will need visas for something more. No freedom to work, live and study in another country is a perfect option.

But Hey, Canadians have the freedom to live work and study without any visa or work permit in Canada only which is perfect.
 

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MUFC said:
Of course that 99% of the Canadians prefer to have only short term tourist visits and the pleasure to know that they will need visas for something more. No freedom to work, live and study in another country is a perfect option.

But Hey, Canadians have the freedom to live work and study without any visa or work permit in Canada only which is perfect.
Until Canadians get rid of their fear of "foreigners stealing their jobs" mentality, freedom of movement for work/study will be hard to accomplish.

Besides the freedom of movement when it comes to work within EU is not really freedom of movement. The person still have to convince the border agent that he/she will not abuse the country social system before being granted to enter to find work.
 

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Nobody can stop you if you want to visit, work, study or live in EU if you are from another EU member state... you just enter and start looking for your place where you want to live, work, study. There is no such a thing as convincing the border control to let you in and look for work.

If you are from EU you are granted by definition to look for work or to live anywhere in the boundaries of the EU.

This is a prerogative of every EU citizen.