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Flagpoling

angelbrat

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TheDecision said:
Hello. I was just wondering what nationality is the passport you used to flagpole?

I am thinking of entering Canada as a tourist and find a job. Once I find a job, can I flagpole to make my work status legal? And will this work even with passports that need visas to enter both the US and Canada?

Thanks, this would really help.
No....to flagpole for a temporary work visa, you must first be from a Canadian visa exempt Country.

I am British, I do not require a visa to enter Canada but need a visa to get into the USA.
 

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I am British, I do not require a visa to enter Canada but need a visa to get into the USA.
The United Kingdom is part of the Visa Waiver Program. You shouldn't need a visa to get into the U.S. as long as your passport is machine-readable.
 

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angelbrat said:
Flagpoling is not a refusal, it is a slang immigration term for lack of any other terminology for this process. It most certainly is NOT a refusal of entry, like I have stated, the USA issue me with 90 day visa's all the time.
Angelbrat:

My wife is Chinese, and even though she will (hopefully) have PR status one day, she will (I am told) still require a consular visa to enter the USA.
This is a major inconvenience when travelling to other countries via the USA.

As I understand it, you are a PR, but not from the USA. And you get 90-day visas from the USA.

So, did you always get 90-day visas from the USA, before becoming a Canadian PR? The reason behind my question is to know if my wife might some day find out how to avoid the need for a consular US visa.
 

job_seeker

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Toby,

Your wife might be able to apply for the 10 year US multiple entry visa once she gets her Canadian Permanent Residency.

toby said:
Angelbrat:

My wife is Chinese, and even though she will (hopefully) have PR status one day, she will (I am told) still require a consular visa to enter the USA.
This is a major inconvenience when travelling to other countries via the USA.

As I understand it, you are a PR, but not from the USA. And you get 90-day visas from the USA.

So, did you always get 90-day visas from the USA, before becoming a Canadian PR? The reason behind my question is to know if my wife might some day find out how to avoid the need for a consular US visa.
 

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hi job_seeker, happy new year!

is it generally easier to get a US visitor visa once a person is a Canadian PR? even for someone who holds a Philippine passport?

job_seeker said:
Toby,

Your wife might be able to apply for the 10 year US multiple entry visa once she gets her Canadian Permanent Residency.
 

job_seeker

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Show you have developed "ties" in Canada before applying for a US visa. Don't apply for a US visa as soon as you land :) Even temporary foreign workers (TRV holders) were able to get US visas but they showed they have work/jobs here.

rubyalabar said:
hi job_seeker, happy new year!

is it generally easier to get a US visitor visa once a person is a Canadian PR? even for someone who holds a Philippine passport?
 

angelbrat

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toby said:
Angelbrat:

My wife is Chinese, and even though she will (hopefully) have PR status one day, she will (I am told) still require a consular visa to enter the USA.
This is a major inconvenience when travelling to other countries via the USA.

As I understand it, you are a PR, but not from the USA. And you get 90-day visas from the USA.

So, did you always get 90-day visas from the USA, before becoming a Canadian PR? The reason behind my question is to know if my wife might some day find out how to avoid the need for a consular US visa.

Yes, on one of my first visits to Canada, I crossed over the Border and received the same 90 day visa into the USA as a non PR of Canada, the same visa I now receive as a PR of Canada.

So, I am guessing the same will apply to your wife.

The 90 visa processing at the Border is actually a breeze. Just need 6 American dollars and your passport. Plus the usual reasons for visiting the USA...blah blah blah. ;D

A Border Gurard did suggest the Nexus card, now I am a PR. Will look into it but for now I am not at all worried with crossing the Border.
 

job_seeker

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Angelbrat,

Note that as a British passport holder you do not need a visa to enter the US (visa waiver program) that is why you do not need to apply for a visa ahead of time. It is not because you are a PR of Canada. What you are given and are paying for is the I94 (am not sure if it is also called I94 for those who do not need a visa to the US); but for us who do need to have a visa we are given the I94 (good for 6 months normally).
 

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of course, of course ;D i was just thinking for my daughter's b-day in july we will bring her to disneyland.
thanks job_seeker!

job_seeker said:
Show you have developed "ties" in Canada before applying for a US visa. Don't apply for a US visa as soon as you land :) Even temporary foreign workers (TRV holders) were able to get US visas but they showed they have work/jobs here.
 

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Show you have developed "ties" in Canada before applying for a US visa. Don't apply for a US visa as soon as you land :) Even temporary foreign workers (TRV holders) were able to get US visas but they showed they have work/jobs here.
How long should you stay in Canada before even attempting to get a US visitor visa?
 

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job_seeker said:
Angelbrat,

Note that as a British passport holder you do not need a visa to enter the US (visa waiver program) that is why you do not need to apply for a visa ahead of time. It is not because you are a PR of Canada. What you are given and are paying for is the I94 (am not sure if it is also called I94 for those who do not need a visa to the US); but for us who do need to have a visa we are given the I94 (good for 6 months normally).
Hi Job_seeker

I am currently in Canada under visitor visa, waiting for PNP NOMINATION, which they said would be end of January.
My question is, after I HOPEFULLY get the Support Letter and Nomination Certificate from the province, I heard from my friend about the "flagpoling". He went to the border in Vancouver with LOE and Nomination certificate and got the work permit for 1 year. Now, my nationality is CROATIA, so I do require B1 or B2 visa to enter US.
Now, I am not sure what to do: go to the border with paperwork or send to the office in New York for the new work permit?
If I go to the border it seems much faster, but I m not sure if they will let me cross the border without US visa only for the purpose of obtaining a new work permit by flagpoling.
Thanks.
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