File a petition in the Crown Court or Supreme Court to delay the Bill C24

[turboracer]

Folks now you can make a choice on it it's like an internet ballot box

See the link below. The CBC political expert Evan Solomon has posed this question about stripping citizenship. Every one is allowed to vote on the issue

Go ahead and make the choice.

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/politics/inside-politics-blog/2014/06/power-politics-ballot-box-question-464.html

 

[yyzhuang]

Thanks a lot for the information

I think this is the right thing to do now. I got some advice from a Canadian citizen friend. I suggest if you would like to write to senators, these are the things to follow:

I would certainly write BC's Senators if I were you, as well as the NDP and Liberal Citizenship and Immigration critics (each party has an MP which specializes in a specific ministry). If I were you I would: (a) be very polite; (b) not demand your "rights" or "justice". The reality is that this bill made be bad policy (I think it is) but the only thing that really tramples people's rights is the ability to strip citizenship from people who have it; and (c) restrict your efforts to getting something small and specific done, namely, a "grandfather" clause which would mean that people (like you) who were very nearly at the end of the waiting period can get citizenship when they expected it. Don't ask for "fairness" or make demands; that always gets people's backs up. Instead, invite them to sympathize with you by being polite, eager, and someone who can't wait to stitch the Maple Leaf to her backpack.

BTW, does anybody know how to contact NDP and Liberal Citizenship and Immigration critics? thanks in advance

 

[turboracer]

I think this is the right thing to do now. I got some advice from a Canadian citizen. I suggest if you would like to write to senators, these are the things to follow:

BTW, does anybody know how to contact NDP and Liberal Citizenship and Immigration critics? thanks in advance

Thanks a lot already with a pen and paper and am writing and mailing by tomorrow

Folks please send to your respective Senators

Thanks

 

[yyzhuang]

Thanks a lot already with a pen and paper and am writing and mailing by tomorrow

Folks please send to your respective Senators

Thanks

I think senators all have emails, like this one http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenatorsMembers/Senate/SenatorsBiography/isenator_det.asp?senator_id=2787&sortord=P&Language=E&M=M

 

[yyzhuang]

To add an explanation of "grandfather" clause:

for people like you to be grandfathered (the usual language is something like "the new rules apply to everyone except persons who became permanent residents before September 1, 2013", etc. The general argument is that people have made plans on the basis of the old rules and it's disruptive to change the rules on them, and there's little cost to maintaining the old rules)

 

[turboracer]

To add an explanation of "grandfather" clause:

Sure that would be better I would email by tonight and lets encourage folks to email too

 

[turboracer]

So after seeing the video clip of today's Senate meeting it still seems they are trying to push it but they did consider the witnesses

Folks email to the senators contact the lawyer above sign the petition try the best

 

[turboracer]

I asked a mate when would this bill be in effect as to previous historical process of the bill

« Reply #1436 on: June 10, 2014, 08:42:08 pm »
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Quote from: turboracer on June 10, 2014, 05:05:57 pm
Marcus friend feels hope after your words when do you think it would be in effect friend ?

I don't issue any predictions as to when the new bill will take effect. There is no way to know.

What I do know is what has happened in the past with similar immigration and citizenship bills. It took months for those bills to take effect after passage in Parliament. For example, for the last citizenship bill (C-37) it took one full year for it to take effect on April 17, 2009 after it was passed on April 18, 2008. For another example, the last major immigration bill took at least six months to take effect on June 18, 2002.

It takes months for the implementation of any major bills like this. Bill C-24 has not even passed one chamber yet. So anyone who claims the bill will take effect within a matter of days is a sheer ignorant person with no understanding of how the federal government moves.

 

[YorkFactory]

i believe you are mistaken

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/peter-mackay-ducks-question-on-referring-anti-prostitution-bill-to-top-court-1.2666621

I'm not mistaken. The Supreme Court of Canada can provide advisory opinions at the request of the federal government. It cannot stop Parliament from passing a law, it doesn't have original jurisdiction in matters such as this, and you wouldn't have standing to sue over a law that hasn't yet been passed and which cannot have affected you.

Listen friends, first of all we have nothing to loose, the petition can be filled against the clauses or part of the bill which is against the constitution, then the court has to decide whether it is constitutional or unconstitutional. Everything will go on hold till the decision is made by the judge, that period is called the stay order.

This cannot happen until after the bill receives royal assent and becomes law. Please learn how things work before continuing to post what is, quite frankly, nonsense.

 

[turboracer]

I'm not mistaken. The Supreme Court of Canada can provide advisory opinions at the request of the federal government. It cannot stop Parliament from passing a law, it doesn't have original jurisdiction in matters such as this, and you wouldn't have standing to sue over a law that hasn't yet been passed and which cannot have affected you.

This cannot happen until after the bill receives royal assent and becomes law. Please learn how things work before continuing to post what is, quite frankly, nonsense.

Hey buddy did u read what I wrote ? A guy explained it and said it ya u r very correct we will sue it after it's law u can't nonsense without reading the fact some one said and I just copied and posted saying it makes no sense kindly have some sense before commenting no offence but someone wrote it his opinion and I just pasted it mate so let's not just comment to a conclusion rather u can msg him and argue abt it

 

[turboracer]

There will be a Senate meeting regarding this Bill C24 today at 3 Pm :

Please click this link :

http://senparlvu.parl.gc.ca/Guide.aspx?viewmode=1&categoryid=-1&currentdate=2014-06-11&_eventid=-1&languagecode=12298

and click on SOCI Meeting No. 37

And you can surely write formal emails saying your feelings of how much you love Canada and not to divide you as 2nd class citizens this is their respective email addresses:

Names and Email addresses of Senate members:

Kelvin Kenneth Ogilvie kelvin.ogilvie @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Art Eggleton art.eggleton @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Maria Chaput maria.chaput @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Jane Cordy jane.cordy @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Nicole Eaton nicole.eaton @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Tobias C. Enverga Jr. tobias.enverga @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Jim Munson jim.munson @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Nancy Ruth nancy.ruth @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Hugh Segal kfl @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Judith G. Seidman judith.seidman @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Asha Seth asha.seth @ sen.parl.gc.ca
Carolyn Stewart Olsen carolyn.stewartolsen @ sen.parl.gc.ca

https://www.facebook.com/citizenshipactcanada

 

[turboracer]

https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/hon-chris-alexander-pc-mp-canadian-government-stop-bill-c-24-don-t-turn-millions-of-us-into-second-class-canadian-citizens

Only 2795 more needed please sign

 

[Dancess]

Hi,
Could you please, try to send the same information in French for Quebec people?
Regards

 

[sazamizi]

Sure... Do you know if he needs / asks financial supports?

Contact him like by email or phone and ask him the status of him

 

[turboracer]

http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/hon-chris-alexander-pc-mp-canadian-government-stop-bill-c-24-don-t-turn-millions-of-us-into-second-class-canadian-citizens

Sign this petition Folks lets try our best