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Hi, Once again Msafiri thanks for taking time & replying. These kind of selfless acts really helps so many people out there. Its a great forum.

Now coming to your answers, I dint get the fact that:
1. Why is it difficult in my case that I wont be getting a TRV when getting reported on RO breach is nil? And u said it may take months to get a TRV whereas on CIC i checked it says processing time of 9-14 days.
The problem getting a TRV is that a TRV is for people who want to visit and you are planning for your child to stay permanently. Therefore, a TRV could be denied.

If a TRV is denied you can apply for a TRP which is a temporary visa sometimes issued to people who are not eligible for TRV but may have H&C grounds for coming to Canada anyway, for example if you can show that it would be hardship on your family to be separated during the time you sponsor your child for PR.

If a TRP is denied as well, your child will not be able to come to Canada until you meet your RO again and can sponsor your child for PR.

The woman mentioned earlier who left her child with her husband in order to come to Canada and meet the RO had applied to sponsor her child and immigration upon finding out that she did not meet the RO called her in for an interview. They decided to give her a pass because she had H&C grounds for not being able to meet the RO which was taking care of a sick relative. Last post I saw from her though, she had already met the RO and was waiting for her PR card renewal but was still waiting for the sponsorship of her child to come through.
 

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I don't know how to post so I am asking you directly bcz you seems really good

Hello,
I am wondering if I will be eligible to sponser for parmanent residency visa for my husband and our son without being employed.
I became pemanent resident in 2009 and went back to Japan for a few years and got married with a Japanese husband and had a baby.
In Feb 2015, we all got into Canada. I have a PR card and my husband has a working holiday visa and my son has a visitor visa.
We gathered documents to apply but are realized that my husband's police certifitate will be expired on the 30 of September.
According to CIC, a police certificate must be valid and so I wonder if I should send it with application forms even I don't have a job right now.
If I decided to apply for their visa, I think I should show CIC how I will support my family financially. I can provide my bank account status or do I need to send anything else?
Could you please give me ideas what kind of supporting document will help my assesment?
Please help me.

Thank you!
 

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ikun said:
Hello,
I am wondering if I will be eligible to sponser for parmanent residency visa for my husband and our son without being employed.
I became pemanent resident in 2009 and went back to Japan for a few years and got married with a Japanese husband and had a baby.
In Feb 2015, we all got into Canada. I have a PR card and my husband has a working holiday visa and my son has a visitor visa.
We gathered documents to apply but are realized that my husband's police certifitate will be expired on the 30 of September.
According to CIC, a police certificate must be valid and so I wonder if I should send it with application forms even I don't have a job right now.
If I decided to apply for their visa, I think I should show CIC how I will support my family financially. I can provide my bank account status or do I need to send anything else?
Could you please give me ideas what kind of supporting document will help my assesment?
Please help me.

Thank you!
Do you meet the RO? If not, wait until you do.

If so you can sponsor your spouse & child: the only financial requirement is not being on social assistance (welfare).

See the family sponsorship board here.
 

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Hi, Once again Msafiri thanks for taking time & replying. These kind of selfless acts really helps so many people out there. Its a great forum.

Now coming to your answers, I dint get the fact that:
1. Why is it difficult in my case that I wont be getting a TRV when getting reported on RO breach is nil? And u said it may take months to get a TRV whereas on CIC i checked it says processing time of 9-14 days.

2. Any which way, I am preparing to file for my kids' TRV, and I have few doubts on filling up my kids TRV appl. form:
a. HOW LONG WILL YOU STAY IN CANADA? clueless as to what to declare - 2years?

b. FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR MY STAY? - any estimate? should i show some funds in my Canadian Bank account but that would be like coming in the account in next few days and might show its not past years'

c. NAME & ADDRESS WHOM YOU WILL MEET? just the address of the place where we will be staying?

d. Also, as i am the inviter, so i have to present the written letter with proofs on financial stability but not sure if I can write in the invitation letter itself that we, the parents being the PR already, want to take our 2 years' old kid to Canada. Don't know what exact statement to mention? Any idea on this???

e. Shall I use the Representative's form if i am filling up my kids' form?

Any kind of QUICK help with above queries will really be appreciated. And once again, thx for the help with your answers. It really helps :)

Thx,
GRV
A TRV is issued to bona fide visitors who will leave Canada after a temporary and 'short' duration. Your non PR child isn't a bona fide visitor as you intend to sponsor for PR so they intend to live in Canada. Visa post will just bounce the TRV application on a technicality. Either apply for a TRV with a realistic 'visit' period and then extend status inland once in Canada if TRV approved or apply for a TRP. To reiterate CIC will not sweat, bother or be aware of your RO breach as your RO is not examined in this application. Any CIC officer digging into your RO either has too much time on their hands or is wanting to get CIC messing with the concept of ultra vires (above the law/beyond the powers). Sure they could/may suggest a flag on FOSS but what will it say - suspect RO breach as per TRP? On what grounds?

We have seen many PRs in your situation on this forum and I will summarize what usually happens. We go through numerous threads covering the multiple scenarios over several months or even a year/s and one parent (usually the father) finally realizes typically after their child's TRV/TRP is bounced or kept on hold for months that they should have returned to Canada much earlier (as per advise usually on the first few threads) and based on admission without report deal with the TRV/TRP issues when inland or accept to sit out the 2 years then sponsor the child/ entire family unit when back in RO compliance. While family separation is not ideal what is the worst case scenario if you are separated for some time? Is there civil strife/ war in your home country? Would the family unit left behind have some extreme hardship in living circumstances? Surely you have had an ok life if you've lived there long enough to breach the RO? Your non PR child has the added advantage of having their parent with them.

You have answers pertaining to the TRV. If you apply for a TRP then its the same TRV form but you need to submit a cover letter and also annotate on the TRV form that you are applying for a TRP. Fee for TRP is $200 non refundable even if bounced.

Again the RO clock is ticking - refer to paragraph 2 above. I doubt if there is more you can get from the forum.
 

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We have seen many PRs in your situation on this forum and I will summarize what usually happens. We go through numerous threads covering the multiple scenarios over several months or even a year/s and one parent (usually the father) finally realizes typically after their child's TRV/TRP is bounced or kept on hold for months that they should have returned to Canada then (as per advise usually on the first few threads) and based on admission without report deal with the TRV/TRP issues when inland or accept to sit out the 2 years then sponsor the child/ entire family unit when back in RO compliance.
Yes, that is quite true. I have seen many couples who may have been in the situation that they were meeting the RO, maybe by a hair but then decided to wait for the youngest child's TRV/TRP as a family with the result that the whole family ended up in breach of the RO and may have even lost their PR's.

Many play with the RO thinking they can easily get to Canada before PR card expiry and stay their 2 years and meet the RO again. However, as it is is always a possibility to get reported, it is important that you try to meet the RO if there is any possibility that you can, including that in such a situation with a child, that the parents split up, one go to Canada while they can still meet the RO and the other wait with the child in their home country.

Meeting the RO also means that you can start sponsorship of the child while if you end up in breach of it, even if you do not get reported for it on entry, you would draw attention to yourself as soon as you sponsor and possibly cause the loss of your PR.
 

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No doubt Leon. Ultimately the PRs have a hard time accepting that CIC/CBSA can't fit around their life situations hard as this may be for them. At the beginning the 5 year window looks like an easy one to deal with then the margins get tight, the breathing room lessens and then eventually its riding your luck at the border. This will one day become an issue if the default position is to report any PR who shows up at the border with an expired PR Card and have a stage 1 rebuttal being to CIC as opposed to the Judicial system. This has the impact of stopping the RO clock. Or like the US go with a out for less than 6 months ok out for more than 6 months then go see the Immigration Judge.
 

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They used to have a 6/12 months rule prior to 2002 so I don't know if they would be going back to it. They could also start doing exit checks and they could change the rule that allows a PR to be "forgiven" if they did not meet the RO in the past as long as they managed to enter and stay for 2 years.

I've been on this forum for a few years and in the meantime immigration has changed pretty much all of the rules and turned many things upside down so it's risky to count on some loophole that is present in the current rules but might not be there any more when the person plans to make use of it.
 

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The 6/12 month rule under the Immigration Act was scrapped when the IRPA commenced. The old rule was 'intent' driven so the PR could be gone for years but if they proved intent not have 'given up' their PR and 'returning to settle' then they got a pass on the breach. Parliament decide to go with a physical day count as a factual unarguable position then ended up with so many exemptions but crucially a weak RO.
 

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A caution to stay aware of potential further changes which can have a major impact on PRs, particularly an impact on the capacity of those outside Canada to retain their PR status, is indeed well-warranted.

I recall that some of my posts just late last year, cautioning PRs abroad for three plus years that they were at substantial risk for a residency examination, despite being in possession of a still valid PR card, and being issued a 44(1) at the POE upon arrival, were still being challenged in this forum by many who insisted that returning PRs in possession of a valid PR card were unlikely to be reported at a POE. It really only has been in recent months that the consensus has largely agreed that those obviously in breach of the PR RO (such as those who, since they were last in Canada, have been absent from Canada for more than 1095 days) are at significant risk despite possessing and presenting a valid PR card. My sense has been that the risk has been elevated significantly for at least a couple years, but in any event the evolution of conventional wisdom reflects that there has been increased scrutiny and enforcement, with indications the enforcement is stricter.


In the last eight years (period during which I have been following Canadian immigration) there have indeed been many changes, including a number of changes which specifically target increased enforcement of restrictions, regulations, obligations, and conditions specifically affecting Permanent Residents.

It is worth noting that the PR Residency Obligation itself has not changed substantively, in this time period, but nonetheless there has been, clearly, both increased and stricter enforcement. There are, moreover, overt changes in CIC policy and practice, such as those which more strictly interpret the application of the PR RO exception for time abroad while working for a Canadian employer.

Some of the more profound changes affecting PRs, which changes tend to increase the impact of restrictions, include:
-- implementation of conditional PR for PRs sponsored by a partner
-- statutory changes increasing the grounds for termination of PR status, including in particular the change in late 2012 which provides for cessation of protected person status automatically (in effect) terminating PR status of persons who obtained PR status as a protected person
-- statutory changes expanding the scope and penalties for misrepresentation
-- implementation of far more strict provisions prescribing what constitutes serious criminality rendering a PR inadmissible (thus subject to revocation of PR status and deportation), along with procedural changes dramatically reducing the availability of relief for PRs in inadmissibility proceedings
-- information sharing provisions have expanded, both relative to information sharing between Canadian governmental bodies, and the profound expansion of information sharing with the U.S., including direct access now regarding PR entries into the U.S.
-- changes in other provisions of law related to PR status, such as the addition of the "no unfulfilled conditions" as a specific requisite for grant citizenship

I am sure this is only a partial list. And there are also changes in technology and POE practices which are capturing far more information about border crossings -- during the first two years after I became a PR (early 2009), it was still more common (for me anyway) to be waived into Canada without presenting any ID, when entering Canada by car, than it was to be asked for ID (as I recall, again for me, the U.S. began demanding to see ID for every crossing around 2006 or so . . . before 2001, neither side of the border asked me for ID except on very rare occasions, for one in fifty crossings maybe).


How is this relevant to GRV's queries?

The recent discussion, above, illustrates the extent to which retaining PR status is a long shot for GRV unless GRV has a persuasive H&C case and competently makes that case.

In contrast, since GRV still has a valid PR card, and particularly since GRV is still within the first five years after landing, the historical reporting in this and in other forums might suggest the contrary, that the odds are good GRV can simply return to Canada and get through the POE without being reported, and then able to simply wait out the two years necessary to get into compliance with the PR RO.

One aspect of what I was trying to caution PRs abroad, still in possession of a valid PR card, was the difference between those who may have traveled back and forth to Canada occasionally, even if for only brief stays in Canada, and those who were last in Canada three years or more previous. The difference is how obvious it is the PR is in breach of the PR RO. No calculation is necessary to conclude there is a RO breach if the PR was last in Canada three plus years previous. I have been hesitant to clearly illuminate the fact that one way in which PRs living abroad can decrease their risk of being reported (upon arrival at a POE) is by just traveling to Canada at least once each calendar year, no more than a year later than the previous trip, and thus better if there are at least three or four trips every two years. I have been hesitant to clearly illuminate this because it is indeed a way in which (or so it appears) many abuse the Canadian PR system, deliberately breaching the RO and doing this to minimize the chance of getting caught. I do not condone, let alone encourage, schemes to avoid enforcement of Canadian immigration law, so I have not wanted to be so explicit about this that the information would, in effect, offer instruction about how to skirt Canadian law.

I suspect that window is shrinking as we go forward. I am sure, though, that the window is indeed shrinking for any who go beyond three years with no return to Canada.

That said, there are still some reports suggesting CBSA and CIC (at least in-Canada CIC officers) still exercise a fair bit of leniency in making discretionary decisions for PRs still within the first five years, still in possession of a valid PR card, and who appear to be committed to establishing a life in Canada but whose actual, physical immigration to Canada has been delayed due to not just the typical H&C reasons, but even other hardships and hurdles such as those which are financially related or education related.

BUT again, any such leniency is --
-- discretionary (no guarantee for any particular individual)
-- subject to change or total elimination at any time
-- and, probably, increasingly limited (less available)


For GRV this is not good news. Four plus years since last presence in Canada, in conjunction with never having really established any long-term physical residency in Canada, raises the bar considerably.

And, moreover, as Leon warns, even the statutorily based requirements can be changed at any time; thus, for example, the exception for PRs accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse could be revised, limited, or even eliminated any time.





Some further observations:


Msafiri said:
My understanding is that what is holding the RO loophole close off in abeyance at this time is primarily that PRs accompanying their Canadian Citizens spouse abroad can count that time towards the RO. This is an absurd situation that beggars belief as to what the intention was when the IRPA was being drafted. Its understandable for say those accompanying a Citizen spouse who is serving in the armed forces, diplomatic posting etc since this is typical immigration policy for many countries but any Citizen spouse is surreal. Since the PR can be sponsored then actual loss of the RO shouldn't be an issue.
There are deeply entrenched policy reasons underlying the PR RO exception for those accompanying a Canadian spouse abroad, ranging from the weight given to keeping Canadian families unified to avoiding punishing PRs whose Canadian citizen spouses go abroad for employment. Moreover, so far as I have discerned from relevant IAD decisions, in addition to the few Federal Court decisions related to this, is that as a policy the cohabitation with a Canadian citizen spouse is considered a connection or tie to Canada (and Canadian society) sufficient to warrant retention of PR status but not enough to warrant credit toward citizenship, the latter demanding a stronger and more broad integration into Canadian society.

This exception, or credit toward compliance with the PR RO, will almost certainly continue to be available.

There are, however, many abuses. Changes to the requirements for grant citizenship address some of these (not perfectly, but to a significant extent), tending to require a stronger commitment to settle in Canada for the long-term, for example, before citizenship can be obtained.

It would not be surprising to see some policy or practice changes relative to the exception/credit, such as there has been relative to the exception/credit for PRs employed abroad by Canadian employers (the latter has, in the last while, been subject to an interpretation which appears to virtually make this almost unavailable to any PR who otherwise does not meet the PR RO through actual presence in Canada). The provision that the PR accompany the Canadian citizen spouse, for example, could be statutorily defined so as to address a large percentage of the abuses (at least what many consider to be an abuse).

It would be extremely surprising to see this exception/credit largely restricted, let alone eliminated.


Msafiri said:
Likewise the H&C aspect to any 'examination' while intended in good faith to enable officer discretion has become a messy conundrum since it depends on your luck. Its akin to the prior Citizenship Act where those referred to the CJ for residence issues either found a CJ strict on the physical days or one who was happy to go with a centralized mode of living. The PR showing up at the border has better odds than the PR applying for a PRTD of getting a pass on the breach - the border agent has 90 seconds to buy your story...the visa post has days or even months if they so wish to dig deeper. The easiest step for Parliament is probably to flip the in/out times for the 5 year RO window and make it 1095 days (3/5 years) required to maintain the RO.
Note: upon referral to secondary for an immigration examination, the examining officer has a lot more than 90 seconds to make a decision. Yes, the PIL officer's decision, about whether to refer a returning PR to an immigration secondary examination, is done very quickly; probably more than 90 seconds for those who in circumstances likely to result in the secondary referral, even if the average for all PIL exchanges is supposed to be, say, less than two minutes. But once referred to secondary, those officers have significantly larger time allowances for their decision-making.

In any event, there is indeed a big issue lurking about the extent to which there is discretion being exercised at a POE, relative to which PRs are examined further, and upon examination the level of scrutiny and strictness of decision-making can vary extensively. I alluded to a key factor above, the PR who has been abroad three years and a day is far more likely to be scrutinized intensely with a greater risk of being reported (due to the obviousness of the RO breach), than perhaps the PR who has been absent well more than four of the previous five years, but who has been making at least a couple two-weeks-plus trips to Canada every year . . . especially if the latter is deliberately gaming the system, while the former is someone who very much has planned on making the move to Canada but has encountered obstacles delaying the actual move.


The potentially disparate result of discretionary decision-making is, of course, the problem with discretion itself. But the capacity to allow equitable relief from strict rules also entails the profound benefit of discretionary decision-making as well.

The more discretionary decision-making is allowed to be, the greater the risk of --
-- abuse (including, especially, improper discrimination)
-- vagaries and unfairness in outcomes (including very disparate results for individuals largely in very similar situations, which tends to be unfair)
-- and, as a consequence, vague expectations, leaving clients in situations for which they cannot reasonably predict the consequences

The H&C discretion may be, indeed, somewhat similar to the qualitative tests (such as centralized mode of living) for meeting citizenship residency requirements, as opposed to a strict physical presence test, pursuant to which prospective applicants could not be certain they would be found qualified depending on which CJ decided the case among other not at all clearly defined criteria. This may be particularly so in the sense that the qualitative test for residency, in citizenship cases, had long been routinely applied but was, with no statutory changes involved, dramatically curtailed due to which political party formed the government . . . so that historically many immigrants had come to expect a liberal application of a qualitative test for residency, but after they applied they learned (and experienced) a dramatic curtailment of this. Similarly relative to the long history of rather lenient POE examinations for PRs returning to Canada still in possession of a valid PR card . . . then with the Conservatives forming the government, changes toward increased and more strict enforcement of the PR RO.

That said, the purposes of these respective, largely discretionary bases for decisions favouring PRs, have been profoundly different in important respects. A big factor is the permanency of the outcome: once citizenship is granted (based on a legitimate application), that is permanent (with the very limited possibility of revocation for extremely serious offenses, amounting to treason or terrorism). In contrast, a POE waiver of the PR RO does not result in any long-term let alone permanent grant of status, and especially where the PR RO is waived in favour of a PR who appears to be in the process of establishing a life in Canada, the waiver is consistent with, not contrary to, the preservation of the PR's status.

That does not obviate the difficulty predicting how things will go when it is apparent POE officers are indeed exercising broad discretion in deciding whether, for PRs who have not met the PR RO, to issue a 44(1) inadmissibility report or to allow entry without a report. My sense is that the government, including CBSA and CIC, whether the respective Minister is a Conservative or from another political party, is OK in leaning favourably toward PRs who may not have met the PR RO but who do not appear to be deliberately abusing the system.

There are obvious abuses taking place. The impact is relatively tempered, however, since a PR abroad is not entitled to any particular help or benefits from Canada. The historical problem with fraud, with some PRs not even in compliance with the PR RO but applying for and obtaining citizenship, has been largely addressed through increased scrutiny, increased enforcement generally, and the significantly increased requirements for citizenship (such as, for example, tax filing requirements in conjunction with four years actual presence).


Leading this back to the situation for GRV:

While it may appear that many if not most of the changes increasing scrutiny and enforcement, and implementing more strict enforcement, have taken place due to the Conservative government, my sense is that the Canadian government would have trended in this direction regardless of which political party was in power. Perhaps a different political party would not have so extensively bowed to the U.S. demands for more strict border controls (a big factor in many of the changes), but that was the inevitable direction things have been going after September 11, 2001, again regardless of which party forms the government.

Thus, for those in a situation similar to that GRV is in, first it is not likely to see much if any reduction in the level of scrutiny or enforcement if another party forms the government after the October election. Indeed, while the status quo may persist more and longer with a change in government, overall the trend will continue to be toward more control of the border, toward more scrutiny and enforcement of immigration laws including those governing PRs, toward more technology and information sharing which enhances the capacity of CBSA and CIC to enforce existing laws, regulations, and rules, and thus, generally, overall the more difficult it will be for a PR in GRV's shoes to retain PR status . . . depending, of course, on particular facts and circumstances, including the particular H&C reasons the individual has tending to favour retention of PR status.
 

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Hi All, You guys have been great with the support. Hats off!!! Free consultancy & with so much compassion all around, keep up the good work guys. <Thumbs up>

Well, after reading all the posts/replies. I have decided on the following:
It seems its good or ironical if I get reported at POE and try to appeal on the H&C grounds that ways the family separation part wont be a considering factor. Now what i am planning is:

1. File for a TRV*
2. If it gets APPROVED, 3 of us can go & work it out at POE and if required will appeal on H&C ground, rest is all LUCK. (Best Possible scenario)
3. If it gets REJECTED, then I am planning to go alone and if I get Reported or Cleared at POE, in any case will file a TRV again & then TRP within next couple of months, hoping to get it in the meantime the appeal is in process or not. (the fact is what am I gonna do or I need to decide if TRP is also rejected here cz cant stand the family separation part for long)

*I am hoping the decision on TRV is made within couple of weeks' time, so that I can make a move in OCT.

I know this is not a foolproof plan but you gotta do what you gotta do and leave rest to the destiny. Cz until u try u wont know whats in store.

Anyways, One question here, Is it mandatory for my wife to be in Canada, with me, when the appeal will be in process?

Thx,
GRV
 

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Hi All, You guys have been great with the support. Hats off!!! Free consultancy & with so much compassion all around, keep up the good work guys. <Thumbs up>....
No doubt lots of help on the forum from all corners including the 20K+ post gurus. Always nice to get some appreciation.

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Hi All, You guys have been great with the support. Hats off!!! Free consultancy & with so much compassion all around, keep up the good work guys. <Thumbs up>
...2. If it gets APPROVED, 3 of us can go & work it out at POE and if required will appeal on H&C ground, rest is all LUCK. (Best Possible scenario)......Thx,GRV
Best to prepare all your H&C documentary evidence now prior to arrival in Canada. Typically PRs appear before the courts ill prepared and expecting an oral explanation to carry the day.

GRV said:
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3. If it gets REJECTED, then I am planning to go alone and if I get Reported or Cleared at POE, in any case will file a TRV again & then TRP within next couple of months, hoping to get it in the meantime the appeal is in process or not. (the fact is what am I gonna do or I need to decide if TRP is also rejected here cz cant stand the family separation part for long)....Thx,GRV
Not sure I get this...if TRV bounced then re-applying will likely lead to another bounce unless there is new material before the visa post. You can't sponsor if you are under appeal for being reported. If in compliance of the RO then sponsorship is guaranteed.

GRV said:
.....Anyways, One question here, Is it mandatory for my wife to be in Canada, with me, when the appeal will be in process?Thx,GRV
No need but the 'location' of your family is a consideration at appeal in the sense that impact on family members in Canada is reviewed were you to be removed.
 

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Hi,
One more thing, as I was filling up the TRV appl. Can somebody guide me in drafting the Invitation Letter.
As what precise information should I mention in the letter to set the tone.
This is what I have written so far:

"I (father) am writing in support of my child’s Visitor Visa application for a period of 6 months (or should I mention 2 years?) to enable her to accompany my wife & I (parents) to Canada.

The above named is a son of mine. He was born in India after we become Permanent residents of Canada and during the period when we were outside Canada. We plan to sponsor him once we are in Canada, and as he is still an infant so need to take him along on a visitor visa.

I am willing to sponsor the visit and pay all the necessary travelling cost and any other expenses that he might incur during our stay in the Canada.( in the amount of about CAD 6000-8000)"


Is there anything else to be mentioned? Any modifications you guys advise? Pls let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Rgds,
GRV
 

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Say 6 months. You can ask for more when you enter Canada or apply to extend later.
 

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Hi Leon, Dpenabill, Msafiri & all others who helped in answering my queries.

Well, as an update, today I got the Canada Visitor Visa for my kid (hohhhhh...finally). I know it took bit longer then I thought, but I first applied for a USA visa & after that was granted, I put in the application for Canada. Dont know if that added any advantage or not but it came by God's grace.

Now, the next MAJOR MAJOR hurdle is the RO thing at PoE, i am keeping my fingers crossed & hoping for the best. Planning to land in Nov. first week or so.

Let me know if any additional things to keep in mind at the time of questioning n all.

Once again thx for the help guys.


God Bless all.

Thx,
GRV
 

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Hi Leon, Dpenabill, Msafiri & all others who helped in answering my queries.

Well, as an update, today I got the Canada Visitor Visa for my kid (hohhhhh...finally). I know it took bit longer then I thought, but I first applied for a USA visa & after that was granted, I put in the application for Canada. Dont know if that added any advantage or not but it came by God's grace.

Now, the next MAJOR MAJOR hurdle is the RO thing at PoE, i am keeping my fingers crossed & hoping for the best. Planning to land in Nov. first week or so.

Let me know if any additional things to keep in mind at the time of questioning n all.

Once again thx for the help guys.


God Bless all.

Thx,
GRV
Congrats on the TRV. Good luck with the POE. Start checking into medical insurance for your child as they will not be eligible for provincial health coverage until some time into the sponsorship process.