Feds bust 1800 phony Canadians

[CharlieD10]

"Mistake" is in quotes because I don't really think it was, canuck. Totally being a bit ironic when I use that word, I promise. It goes without saying that loving my husband is the best thing that ever happened to me.

I would never go about this process any other way, I never have attempted to enter anyone's country other than in the way they specify. And I think it's great that Canada realises that there are people out there willing to lie, cheat and abuse their way into the benefits that come with being a Canadian citizen, and wants to revoke citizenship attained in such a way.

What bothers me is the seeming double standard of Canada offering protection to people who are known to be criminals, while giving people like myself a hard time (in essence, making us feel like criminals) for nothing more than making a choice to marry someone you love and choosing to live with them in their country.

 

[aerogurl87]

There's a Chinese guy wanted by China for massive corruption among other charges. He's been in Canada for the past twelve (12) years. Canada still hasn't made up their minds to deport him, even though his refugee claim has been denied and appealed all the way to Federal Court and back, as far as the process can go, and he has had TWO negative Pre-Removal Risk Assessments. Beijing has even made certain concessions regarding the charges, and still he's not left Canada. Methinks he's not going anywhere soon, as long as he has enough money to pay lawyers.

I think I heard about that guy before. Well Canada needs to ship him off. If he's wanted for charges elsewhere then they need to deport him and send him back to China. But it's stories like that that make me upset, because others see his story and start thinking of Canada as being a safe haven for crooks and also an easy place to come into illegally with no consequences. Hopefully the government will finally step up to the plate though and take some real action instead of just a few harsh words with no real consequences for those that break the law.

 

[CharlieD10]

Here we go. Now the IRB has decided to release him from custody, a day before his hearing, because he's not considered a flight risk. Really?? A guy enters the country illegally, uses every means at public expense to remain for 12 years, and then you let him walk free a day before a decision is to be made on his deportation? And I'm a high risk for over-staying because I want to visit my husband while you shilly-shally about with my legal application???? :-X

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/20/bc-lai-changxing-released.html

If this happened in Jamaica, I would ask what the IRB judge was smoking, but..umm...yeah.

 

[awor]

Here we go. Now the IRB has decided to release him from custody, a day before his hearing, because he's not considered a flight risk. Really?? A guy enters the country illegally, uses every means at public expense to remain for 12 years, and then you let him walk free a day before a decision is to be made on his deportation? And I'm a high risk for over-staying because I want to visit my husband while you shilly-shally about with my legal application???? :-X

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/20/bc-lai-changxing-released.html

If this happened in Jamaica, I would ask what the IRB judge was smoking, but..umm...yeah.

Um. Wow.

 

[toby]

"Putting their foot down" is a relative term, when it comes to Canada. Over the past few days I've read a number of articles about KNOWN criminals, mass murderers and terrorists even, who are openly living in Canada in order to escape prosecution for crimes committed in their own countries. Canada will not allow them to be extradited, because some of them have been accused of/are known to have committed crimes serious enough to merit the death penalty according to the laws of these countries, and Canada doesn't support capital punishment. From many of the comments I read, many people were of the opinion that Canada ought simply to hang out a shingle welcoming criminals, inviting them to come in and file (bogus) refugee claims, live off public funds and access public services.

Meanwhile, having never committed a crime in my life, I made the huge "mistake" of falling in love with a Canadian, whom I met and married, all quite legally. I, of course, am not really "welcome" and they'll stall and drag out the process as much as possible by allocating as few resources as possible to processing my perfectly legal application for permission to enter the country legally.

What is it we say here in Jamaica? "The man who plays by the rules gets shafted"! Nice to know no matter where I am in the world, some things will never change.

Indeed, a very frustrating situation.

 

[toby]

There's a Chinese guy wanted by China for massive corruption among other charges. He's been in Canada for the past twelve (12) years. Canada still hasn't made up their minds to deport him, even though his refugee claim has been denied and appealed all the way to Federal Court and back, as far as the process can go, and he has had TWO negative Pre-Removal Risk Assessments. Beijing has even made certain concessions regarding the charges, and still he's not left Canada. Methinks he's not going anywhere soon, as long as he has enough money to pay lawyers.

Youthinks right. Canada needs a bit of the testosterone that Australian Prime Ministers have -- and the current one is a woman!

 

[eyeoftheocean]

Women have more balls than men in Politics , its a well known fact lol

 

[dair2dv8103100]

Women have more balls than men in Politics , its a well known fact lol

AMEN to THAT!!!

 

[CrazyLucy]

Here's an Yahoo article that touches a bit more on the subject. It's pretty much people who bought their citizenship.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ottawa-targets-1-800-citizenship-crackdown-134220779.html

 

[AllisonVSC]

Here's an Yahoo article that touches a bit more on the subject. It's pretty much people who bought their citizenship.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ottawa-targets-1-800-citizenship-crackdown-134220779.html

I read somewhere that most of the 1800 are not currently in Canada. A quote from the above article...Kenney said he didn't expect any of the identified cases to take legal action.
"There's a very fair and exhaustive legal process," he said. "We have strong, convincing evidence of the fraudulent activity happening."

Did anyone else notice the casual mention towards the end of the article of a possible new visa for frequent visitors...valid for 10 years and an unlimited number of entries?

 

[Baloo]

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Did anyone else notice the casual mention towards the end of the article of a possible new visa for frequent visitors...valid for 10 years and an unlimited number of entries?

Yes, but I doubt they will allow someone in for six months, then after one day outside Canada they can return again for six months.
There is not enough detail, yet.

 

[CrazyLucy]

Here's another right from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/07/21/pkg.canada.citizenship.crackdown.cbc?hpt=wo_t2

Sounds to me like it was the consultants who agree to commit fraud. Looks to me like everyone's a bit at fault here. CIC for letting this slide, consultants for setting the immigrants up for fraud, and of course, the immigrants who came here on false documents. My question is....why now? Why not when it was obvious it was false? And what's the point is faking your way into Canada only to go back to your place of origin? I remember that conditional visa or whatever? This all just seems like a political stunt. Just revoking someone's Citizenship NOW? It's random and fishy.

 

[CharlieD10]

Yes, but I doubt they will allow someone in for six months, then after one day outside Canada they can return again for six months.
There is not enough detail, yet.

I agree. I hold a US B1/B2, which is similar to this new 10 year TRV Canada is proposing. I would be subject to a great deal of suspicion if I started spending the entire 6 months I am allowed to stay, then returning for another 6 months after only a short break. And while they allow me to stay for up to 6 months, they have checked my previous departure record every time I returned subsequently.

 

[aerogurl87]

Here we go. Now the IRB has decided to release him from custody, a day before his hearing, because he's not considered a flight risk. Really?? A guy enters the country illegally, uses every means at public expense to remain for 12 years, and then you let him walk free a day before a decision is to be made on his deportation? And I'm a high risk for over-staying because I want to visit my husband while you shilly-shally about with my legal application???? :-X

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/20/bc-lai-changxing-released.html

If this happened in Jamaica, I would ask what the IRB judge was smoking, but..umm...yeah.

Well I'm not surprised, not too long ago they let a convicted murderer go on a temporary absence with one cop to supervise him, not too far from where I live. In the process he escaped from the officer, led the cops on a high speed chase, and took a woman hostage.

http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/abbynews/news/118379539.html

Canadian government makes some stupid decisions sometimes.

 

[CharlieD10]

And what's the point is faking your way into Canada only to go back to your place of origin?

I have two words for you: convenience and passport. In reading around this issue, I have read of where Canada spent $100 million dollars to fly "Canadians" out of Lebanon during political unrest. As it turns out, many of these included people who had been born in Canada to immigrant citizen parents, but who had never lived in Canada. As soon as the situation in Lebanon returned to normal, many of them went back "home".

The Canadian citizenship is a "get out of jail free" card, they live and work in their "home" countries, but in the event things get dicey, they start waving the Canadian passport, and demanding that the government get them out of there. Additionally, many persons attain citizenship so they have access to healthcare and pension benefits as and when needed. They don't actually live and work in Canada, Canada is a back-up plan.