Federal Skilled Worker Class Action Lawsuit

[cljw31]

I fail to understand, hard as I try, the motivation behind people coming here and leaving harsh comments about the litigants ,,,,,,these applicants stood up to 9 years in queue and have endured excessive costs and worries in the past months,,,,,,let alone the costs associated with application which are unrefundable,,,,
It is totally normal that they will be frustrated and angry at the court's decision,,,,, but then some come here with no other interest than teasing them.

Lack of consideration to human feelings is a crime against humanity!!

I waited for 7 years for my application and I was part of the litigation. I know it's sad and disappointing at the same time because of the decision, but instead of feeling sorry for myself..I'm already thinking about my next step. I hope all of the litigants who still wishes to go to Canada can do the same...i don't believe anyone is teasing us and i don't believe anyone here isn't considered of our feelings...we just need to stay strong and move on. I've been preparing for my new application and I hope for the best!

 

[gmail04]

I waited for 7 years for my application and I was part of the litigation. I know it's sad and disappointing at the same time because of the decision, but instead of feeling sorry for myself..I'm already thinking about my next step. I hope all of the litigants who still wishes to go to Canada can do the same...i don't believe anyone is teasing us and i don't believe anyone here isn't considered of our feelings...we just need to stay strong and move on. I've been preparing for my new application and I hope for the best!

I am sad also;( but u have the correct attitude! blaming doesn't help anything at this point. i'm also lookin at info so i can apply again...i PM u with some questions. thank u in advance!

 

[Dramebaaz]

In short - All pre-2008 PR applications are dismissed by law and court decision. If you want a longer explanation, read this forum from page 1 and up.

I just want to know. Please do try to understand and then reply.

The applicants who applied before 27 February 2008 were promised to be processed according to the rules prevalent at the time of application at that time. For 3-4 years the same thing was reiterated on CIC sites that pre 27 February 2008 cases will be accessed and processed to the final decision according to the rules at the time of application. Though there was no such promise for the applicants who applied after 27 February 2008.

We were not allowed to make any enquiry until the expected and projected time of processing on their website has been crossed which was latest 93 months as per CIC website. That means a wait for another 4 to 5 years. We were ready for any delay as finally it was expected that our applications will be processed to the final decision and according to the rules and law which was prevalent at the time of our application.

Why and how Bill C-38 is being applied retrospectively even to the pre-C-50 applicants? Just to terminate them and escape the duty to process them. It is overriding previous rules and laws. Is it legal according to Canadian Law to apply it retrospectly even to the people who applied before Bill C-50? Strange! It is totally unfair and unexpected! Then why Bill C-50 was not applied retrospectively that time itself? It would have saved 4-5 years of applicants. There is some big conspiracy just to use the applicants and their money! Cunning exploitation! or Utter failure of the incapable immigration department!

Is section 87.4(1)a of Bill C-38 legally feasible to terminate pre Bill C-50 applicants who applied before 27 February 2008 against the rules prevalent at that time. They have passed it in parliament but how it is acceptable by the court to frame such law legally which is unfair to the applicants or anybody?

They could have made it applicable to the applicants who applied after 27 Februay 2008 in whom no decision has been made before 29 March 2012 because there was no promise with them to process them to final decision.

Was this case really a Class Action Suit or individual suit by a group of applicants? Will applicants now go for appeal in Supreme Court? It was being said that there will always be a scope for appeal for the loosing side. There must be an appeal against the legality of section 87.4(1)a of Bill C-38. Will any Class Action Suit be filed now in future?

Why the individual countries and their courts do not interfere to protect the interest of their citizens when they are cheated like this and their money is used for so many years without giving (or refusing to give services at the end) any services by other countries' immigration department? They have not even accessed so many cases against points grid for so many years?

I do not know if it all over or there is some hope or way in future for the applicants? What is the guarantee that they will not cheat the future applicants?

 

[rafiqjp]

Someone wants to cross a big river.
A boatman carries passenger for money.
In the middle of river, can the boatman say to the passenger “You are too heavy for my boat, so get off from boat just here”?

Canada acted like that boatman.

 

[Knight_Crusader]

I fail to understand, hard as I try, the motivation behind people coming here and leaving harsh comments about the litigants ,,,,,,these applicants stood up to 9 years in queue and have endured excessive costs and worries in the past months,,,,,,let alone the costs associated with application which are unrefundable,,,,
It is totally normal that they will be frustrated and angry at the court's decision,,,,, but then some come here with no other interest than teasing them.

Lack of consideration to human feelings is a crime against humanity!!

You should understand, its not about the litigants. Do you realize what the lawyers have done? They have just added your name to a list and charged you 500$ + for that ! This litigation and the reasons for the same were a loser from the day 1. They did not stand a chance.
When this was expressed by a few and litigants were urged to move on and not waste further money and time ( for their own good ), abuses were hurled. Some may ask, what we are doing here, this is an open forum for people to express their views, learn!

People who have lost the ability to see straight seldom get very far !

Anyways, with new FSWP many pre 2008 are eligible and can apply. For the rest, there is Europe, New Zealand, etc...

 

[hopeful4]

I waited for 7 years for my application and I was part of the litigation. I know it's sad and disappointing at the same time because of the decision, but instead of feeling sorry for myself..I'm already thinking about my next step. I hope all of the litigants who still wishes to go to Canada can do the same...i don't believe anyone is teasing us and i don't believe anyone here isn't considered of our feelings...we just need to stay strong and move on. I've been preparing for my new application and I hope for the best!

You can be positive off course because the new immigration conditions apply to you. for 95% of the eliminated pre 2008 applications the new occupation list is a barrier against re-application so you should understand their disappointment. I do not know why everyone is thinking from his very own personal perspective only.

 

[gspreet]

Who created Backlog --> Kenney / Librals / CIC
Who proved to be most irresponsible to do their duties --> Kenney / Librals / CIC

AND

Who have suffered and ruined 8 years of life --> Applicants (pre Feb 2008)
Justice Rennie has taken a wrong decision, He should have punish the CIC for not processing our files on time rather us the applicants to were waiting for long.

This is pure INJUSTICE.

 

[applicantpre8]

Dear Mr. G. S. Kainth,

A girl was raped and she visit a police station for complaint. In police station she was raped again by the policemen. She complaints to Director General of Police. Again she was raped by DGP. She complaint to Member of Parliament, Minister and prime Minister. They also raped her. Then she goes to court for complaint, Lawyers and judge also raped her. Everybody raped her, because Govt, Minister, lawyer, Judge, Police is corrupt. Where to complaint? Where she will get the Justice? Everybody is CORRUPT and EVIL.

When those people who are assigned duty to save people and give JUSTICE are turned to evil then nobody can save her.


So, same is here with us. Everybody is looting us. Canadian Minister, MP's, Lawyers, Judge, Union Leaders etc. Main strategy is WASH HANDS IN RUNNING WATER. Who will bother? God also cannot save us in this situation. Because this Kenney and Rennie are beyond God now days.

Canada used our money for 10 Years. Invested it and get huge profit. And corrupt Rennie under influence of Kenney refused us to give interest/compensation. What a Judgement? What a Justice and Fainess??

A simple calculation. If 40000 applicants are from only India out of 100000 applications. And we consider an average two adults and two kids from an average family per application. Then minimum fee which is paid by per applicant to CIC is Rs 50000/- approx. Where 20000/- per adult and 6000/- per minor.

Now simple calculation is


40000 applications * Rs 50000/- == Rs 200,000,00,00/- means Rs 200 Crores. In Millions Rs2000 MILLIONS.

Rs 2000 Millions were used by Canadian Govt. collected from us fro 10 YEARS. Where is Interest/Compensation. Now please calculate about the 1,000,00 application around the world.

Calculation in Dollars. 100000 applications * $1400 = [size=20pt] $140000000. Or 140 MILLIONS.

According to Kenney's Official statement in Budget is $130 MILLIONS which is used for 10 years by Canada. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is JUSTICE BY RENNIE?????? WELDONE! WELDONE!.. Justice Rennie under the influence of Kenney used his power very cleverly and feels proud standing on the Bulk GRAVEYARD OF 300000 PEOPLE's HOPES, feelings, future etc including kids of 10 years. These kids were taught by their parents from birth that they are going to be Canadians soon.

Canadian Court and Justice Rennie permit Kenney and Canadian Govt. to loot applicants and repeat this SCAM again & again from all over the world. First demand money from applicants from world, use this money for 10-15 years. Then terminate their applications and issue new NOC list to grab new BAKRA's/Fishes. This way Canada is living on the money looted/collected from applicants of the world.


I am now at the age of 38. When, I appied for immigration, my age was of 28 years. I lost and waste young & energetic 10 years of my life. Approximately, 6th part of average life (considering average life 60 years)..

Will KENNEY give me those young years BACK.. He will feel the HEAT in FUTURE.


SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME CANADA SHAME SHAME SHAME CANADA

Who created Backlog --> Kenney / Librals / CIC
Who proved to be most irresponsible to do their duties --> Kenney / Librals / CIC

AND

Who have suffered and ruined 8 years of life --> Applicants (pre Feb 2008)
Justice Rennie has taken a wrong decision, He should have punish the CIC for not processing our files on time rather us the applicants to were waiting for long.

This is pure INJUSTICE.

 

[Forever Victory]

After hearing the court's decision, my world collapsed. What else can I do now, I am already 45 turning 46 this year. Good for those who are still young, they can reapply under the new FSW category. Where is justice here??? God knows the injustice CIC and the Federal Court of Canada has done to us. May God Bless all affected by pre 2008 backlog applicants.

 

[polara69]

It probably has also to do with this:

Most Canadians are in favour of restrictions on the number of qualified immigrants accepted into the country each year, a new poll suggests.

A survey conducted by Forum Research for the National Post found that 70% of the 1,755 Canadian adults polled supported limits, and most Canadians who were born in another country (58%) agreed. Among those whose parents were not born in Canada, 66% were in support of limiting the number of qualified immigrants over admitting all prospective qualified newcomers, the poll showed.

Roderic Beaujot, a professor emeritus of sociology at Western University whose research looked at population and immigration, says he was surprised that there was agreement between the various groups.

“It’s interesting that the attitudes are not too different… To me, this is a very realistic thing.

“Immigrants would know that it would be difficult for Canada to admit all qualified immigrants,” he said.

Support for immigration limits was steady across the provinces and across party lines, with a range of between 64% and 77% among all regions and political affiliations, the Forum Poll showed.

The poll also showed that 60% of Canadians say that immigrants should be able to hold dual nationality, and 81% were in favour of allowing immigrants to bring their spouse and dependent children along with them.

We’re actually more welcoming than we make ourselves out to be

“There is enthusiasm for controlled immigration of immediate families from countries with our values, and Canadians see no reaon why immigrants can’t hold on to their previous nationality,” said Lorne Bozinoff, the president and founder of Forum Research. “We’re actually more welcoming than we make ourselves out to be.”

The survey comes about two weeks after the Canadian government released its preliminary 2012 immigration figures. The latest numbers showed that the country admitted 257,515 immigrants last year, up from 248,751 the year prior.

The statistics are up, but the Harper government has been taking steps in recent years to tighten the criteria of those admitted into the country to better match economic needs and limit abuse of the system. Under Citizenship and Immigration minister Jason Kenney, the government has tightened language requirements for new arrivals, rolled out harsh penalties for those who lie on immigration forms, and focused more on applicants with needed skills in the Canadian labour market.

But Jack Jedwab, the executive director of Montreal-based think-tank Association for Canadian Studies, said most Canadians were satisfied with the number of immigrants coming to Canada.

Source: The National Post

 

[zardoz]

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I am now at the age of 38. When, I appied for immigration, my age was of 28 years. I lost and waste young & energetic 10 years of my life. Approximately, 6th part of average life (considering average life 60 years)..

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Any credibility that you had, is now gone. You need to go and stand in the corner and think about what you have done. You are a bad little boy who is having a tantrum. STOP IT. Just because you use lots of BIG letters and pretty colours, you think that it makes a difference to anyone?

 

[applicantpre8]

Thanks for your compliment for addressing me a little boy . Secondly, I am not having Tantrum. But it clear that you are having Tantrum from my facts and figures. It is clear from your writing. I am only writing the facts. Please answer my facts. Please focus on my post and give authentic answer. We will go but first give us our life back and INTEREST with COMPENSATION.

I am writing a FACT. I am showing real face of CANADA to world. Which is very hard to DIGEST by you. You all people are living on our children's money. Money which you looted from us from 10 years Back. Canadian children's are eating meal after snatching it from our children's mouth. I will not stop it. Wait for our next step. We will not leave you sooooooooooooo easily. You will see that we will claim our INTEREST and COMPENSATION.

Tell me one thing. Why Canada is demanding SKILLED IMMIGRANTS from all over the world? Because there are not literate people in Canada. If Canadian Govt. is feeling shortage of Man power then CONDOMS should be banned and VIAGRA should be circulated free to Canadians to produce more manpower. Why Kenney is crying for IMMIGRANTS, IMMIGRANTS, more IMMIGRANTS........ NOC code declarations.... ;D ;D I can understand it. Habit cannot be changed of Kenney for BEGGING.. 8)

Any credibility that you had, is now gone. You need to go and stand in the corner and think about what you have done. You are a bad little boy who is having a tantrum. STOP IT. Just because you use lots of BIG letters and pretty colours, you think that it makes a difference to anyone?

 

[Mallu]

Dear All,

My IELTS score:

Listening : 8.0
Reading : 6.0
Speaking : 7.0
Writing : 7.0

If it is converted to CLB points i get :

Listening : 5/6
Reading : 4
Speaking:5
Writing: 5

So overall score as per CLB is 19 points.I hope i am right ??

I came to know that if the reading is 6.0, then overal CLB band becomes CLB 7 and points come down to 16.

Please clarify the above question.

 

[obib]

Thanks farmerofthedell please do you know the email address to send the Pre Feb 2008 refund form to?I appreciate your assistance buddies!

 

[ofonzo]

What can one say under this circumstances? Backlog applicants have suffered the most in this immigration process.They believed the Canadian Government and the CIC. They waited in line as every decent immigrant should, and they did at for many years. They only way they are repaid is by scrapping their application. This is a very sad day in the history of Canadian Immigration. Back logged applicants had hoped that the Canadian Justice system would have upheld their rights, but alas their hopes were dashed.
My heart goes out to you guys. Your dreams may have been dashed but don't stop dreaming. If you really want to go to Canada like I know you would look at the several options available, there might be one that could help you realize your dreams.