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IndianPNP said:
News Alert !!!
according to yesterday meeting and today conference, Justice Barnes is not willing to process litigants cases in fast manners or priority based direction.

Second, he has also showed that Final Outcomes on Pre-Feb 2008 litigants cases may come in coming summer or late August 2013.

Third, he has clearly told to all council that Cases will be entertain under managed cases or test case not Class Case.

Fourth, he is also willing that all council should complete all arguments till evening of Jan 15 2013, than we will give arguments on Jan 16,2013 and ask CIC to clarification on next available hearing...
Dear IndianPNP,
brother from where u heard about this news,any source plz?
I read elsewhere that this meeting was with renie not with barnes and on january hearing justice rennie will hear arguments.Plz feel free to correct me.
 
umerrais79 said:
I HAVE A ONE SUGGESTION TO ALL OF US THAT TALK TO LAWYERS AND GIVE THEM SUGGESTION TO ASKED TO COURT TO SET ANY TIME FRAME FOR FINALISE OUR CASES. BECAUSE real victory is when we get some time frame from CIC without time frame that victory is waste of time. THE POINT IS THIS THAT NOW HOW MUCH MORE TIME ....ALREADY 8 YEARS SPOILED I THINK THAT YET NOT CLEAR UNLESS WE ALL HAVE GET MEDICALS...AND WIN THE CASE...WHEN THE CIC SEND US VISAS .... SO PLEASE TALK TO LAWYERS AND GIVE THEM SUGGESTION TO ASKED TO COURT TO SET ANY TIME FRAME FOR FINALISE OUR CASES.

Dear Umer ,

That was the purpose of my litigation. However, the Minister and Justice Barnes have make that virtually impossible. First, the Minister threw all the cases into play in March, not just the 1,000 whom I was representing. Second, Justice Barnes is refusing to rule on the motion I filed, asking him to enforce the agreement CIC and I had signed and filed with the Federal Court on February 3rd.

Regards,

Tim
 
IndianPNP said:
News Alert !!!
according to yesterday meeting and today conference, Justice Barnes is not willing to process litigants cases in fast manners or priority based direction.

Second, he has also showed that Final Outcomes on Pre-Feb 2008 litigants cases may come in coming summer or late August 2013.

Third, he has clearly told to all council that Cases will be entertain under managed cases or test case not Class Case.

Fourth, he is also willing that all council should complete all arguments till evening of Jan 15 2013, than we will give arguments on Jan 16,2013 and ask CIC to clarification on next available hearing...

Means Ruling for next Jan 2013 hearing has been delivered in advance? How surprising. Shame Shame to canadian system of justice.
 
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Toronto 10-DEC-2012 BEFORE The Honourable Mr. Justice Rennie Language: E Before the Court: Pre-Hearing Conference Result of Hearing: Parties agreed upon the format for the upcoming Judicial Review in January held in Court Senior Usher: Dave Patterson Duration per day: 10-DEC-2012 from 03:15 to 04:25 Courtroom : Conference Room No. 5-43 - Toronto Court Registrar: Cherlin McColman Total Duration: 1h 10min Appearances: Mr. Timothy Leahy 416-226-9889 representing Applicant Mr. Martin Anderson 416-952-2856 representing Respondent Ms. Angela Marinos 416-973-8858 representing Respondent Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 275 page(s) 262 - 263 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
 
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Oral directions of the Court: The Honourable Mr. Justice Rennie dated 11-DEC-2012 directing "If counsel for the parties cannot reach an agreement on the place of cross- examination, the issue will be determined by Justice Barnes at the 4pm case management call scheduled for today." received on 11-DEC-2012 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
 
News Alert

According to yesterday meeting and today conference, Justice Barnes is not willing to process litigants cases in fast manners or priority based direction.

Second, he has also showed that Final Outcomes on Pre-Feb 2008 litigants’ cases may come in coming summer or late August 2013.
...

Third, he has clearly told to all council that Cases will be entertain under managed cases or test case not Class Case.

Fourth, he is also willing that all council should complete all arguments till evening of Jan 15 2013, than we will give arguments on Jan 16,2013 and ask CIC to clarification on next available hearing.

Fifth, He is not going to give directives to CIC to process litigants FSW backlog cases in Visa offices in fast manner, priority basis or limited time frames etc... if outcome of cases comes positive. And CIC will have rights to process on litigants FSW backlog files according to their own timeline.
 
Good Day ,

That was the purpose of my litigation. However, the Minister and Justice Barnes have make that virtually impossible. First, the Minister threw all the cases into play in March, not just the 1,000 whom I was representing. Second, Justice Barnes is refusing to rule on the motion I filed, asking him to enforce the agreement CIC and I had signed and filed with the Federal Court on February 3rd.

Regards,

Tim
 
YoU are doing a great job by posting every latest update on litigant cases to fight against the unjustice and we all condemn this coward act. it will be great help for me if anyone can tell me any (website o URL) where I can see my litigation file latest proceeding along with others litigant members as I had just joined recently. We all must have Faith on GOD that we will win and meet our Fate. WE WILL WIN. :)
 
kau_shik_patel said:
News Alert

According to yesterday meeting and today conference, Justice Barnes is not willing to process litigants cases in fast manners or priority based direction.

Second, he has also showed that Final Outcomes on Pre-Feb 2008 litigants' cases may come in coming summer or late August 2013.
...

Third, he has clearly told to all council that Cases will be entertain under managed cases or test case not Class Case.

Fourth, he is also willing that all council should complete all arguments till evening of Jan 15 2013, than we will give arguments on Jan 16,2013 and ask CIC to clarification on next available hearing.

Fifth, He is not going to give directives to CIC to process litigants FSW backlog cases in Visa offices in fast manner, priority basis or limited time frames etc... if outcome of cases comes positive. And CIC will have rights to process on litigants FSW backlog files according to their own timeline.

Dear Kaushik I appreciate your efforts by posting every update here but this news is just a rumour and I request you to dont spread any rumour until u dont confirm the source, u only read it at any web forum and paste it here, it is just a comment by some member but its not a news so please only post relevant news whose source are confirm and dont spread rumours. hope u understand
 
Update from Tim:

1. Justice Rennie, who will be presiding over the hearing in January, allocated time to both sides to make their arguments and canvassed counsel as to which arguments they intended to raise and how long they expected to speak. For our group, he told me that I could only argue one case and had until Friday to say which one. I have not yet made that decision.

2. Justice Barnes cancelled the Tuesday hearing in view of what had been arranged at the Monday converence.
 
farmerofthedell said:
Update from Tim:

1. Justice Rennie, who will be presiding over the hearing in January, allocated time to both sides to make their arguments and canvassed counsel as to which arguments they intended to raise and how long they expected to speak. For our group, he told me that I could only argue one case and had until Friday to say which one. I have not yet made that decision.

2. Justice Barnes cancelled the Tuesday hearing in view of what had been arranged at the Monday converence.

farmerofthedell: will managed litigation speed the disposition of the case as against class action?
 
Hi....

I am new to this forum,

But, I have been a litigant from more than last 1 year.....

This are only my personal views pls dont read seriously.....

In, Feb 2012, there was an agreement signed between Tim and CIC, for a case management processing where a decision on a lead litigant would be enforced on all the other litigants..case processing Judge was same as Current and hearing / decision was given by same who would be proceding for January,

Decison was Victory....Lead litigant, Mr. Liang reached in August, and rest (Pre Feb. 2008) hoped that they will also fair decision but nothing has happened as yet, as agreement reached was not held by CIC and judge have also remained silent on that

Now, again it is a Case Managed Hearing, with lead litigants, of each of the lawyers.....but no agreement whether the decision on lead litigant to be applied to other litigants, so again a favourable decision to be applied to the lead litigant and rest are in a limbo !!!!!, decision "WON" but nothing happened for rest. :(

I am not hurting feeling of anybody, it is only my personal view...if things didn't happened for a won case back in June, I doubt for January.
 
sac said:
farmerofthedell: will managed litigation speed the disposition of the case as against class action?

Based on what the lawyers have stated in their updates, the hearings could not have been scheduled for January if the cases were certified as class action. So the current test case scenario already runs faster than class action.
 
Good day,


There is very, very little to report on the conference but people keep insisting on knowing, presuming as always either that I do not have enough to do as it is or that I cannot be trusted to keep you up-to-date on what you really need to know. So, here is the update:


1. Justice Rennie, who will be presiding over the hearing in January, allocated time to both sides to make their arguments and canvassed counsel as to which arguments they intended to raise and how long they expected to speak. For our group, he told me that I could only argue one case and had until Friday to say which one. I have not yet made that decision.


2. Justice Barnes cancelled the Tuesday hearing in view of what had been arranged at the Monday converence.


Regards,


Tim