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I just hope our lawyer will send us email so that we will not be wondering whats the status of our case. I was pathetic the whole day checking the web for any latest immigration news.
hi friend

just look to this topic:


Here's an excerpt from the e-mail received from Tim Leahy:

On Tuesday, September 18th, Justice Barnes refused to enjoin CIC from acting on the provision Jason Kenney tucked into Bill C-38, the budget implementation bill, abolishing the immigrant visa applications of 86,000+ skilled workers, who had been waiting in the immigration queue for four to eight years. Justice Barnes did not, however, rule on the legality of the provision closing the FSW applications. A different judge will make that ruling sometime in mid- to late-2013.



Applicants' counsel were seeking an injunction barring CIC from (a) destroying the FSW files and (b) refunding the processing fee so long as the matter was before the courts. CIC told the Federal Court that it would not destroy the files for two years, obviating any need to enjoin it from doing so; and Justice Barnes dismissed applicants' counsels' concern that, if FSW applicants cashed the refund cheques, they would lose their right to have their files processed if the applicants' litigation prevailed. Justice Barnes stated that, in his view, all they would have to do would be to repay the refund cheque and their file would be reinstated. Justice Barnes appears to fear upsetting Jason Kenney by impeding his effort to abolish as many files as he can in order to have a “just in time” process.



Applicants' counsel themselves were not united on the need for such an injunction, believing, as Justice Barnes ruled, that their litigants interested were protected. The real need for the injunction was for the FSW applicants who have not joined the litigation. If they cash the refund cheque, applicants' counsel fear, the FSW applicants will be signing away their right to have their files processed. Justice Barnes cited no authority at the hearing to support his view that all they would have to so would be to repay the fee. If he truly believes what he said, Justice Barnes will affirm this view in his written reasons for denying the injunction. Justice Barnes did state, however, that applicants' counsel may raise the issue again if CIC reverses its pledge not to destroy the FSW files for two years.



The injunction was needed because the Federal Court has not ruled on whether the litigation should proceed as a true class-action lawsuit or as individual litigants moving forward together. In a class-action, all members of the class will receive the same benefit if the litigation prevails. In managed litigation, the ruling will only govern the fate of those who joined the litigation, leaving those who have not joined out in the cold. The Court set the hearing on class certification for November 16th.



Justice Barnes reiterated his preference for managed litigation over a class-action lawsuit. Justice Barnes had previously stated that, because, if the Court strikes down the provision closing the FSW files, the result would affect all FSW applicants, there is no need to certify a class. That view, however, presumes that those who cash their refund cheques will not, by so doing, have effectively abandoned their immigrant-visa application.


The approach, therefore, Justice Barnes took at the hearing on the injunction is more important than the ruling itself. The more important decisions he will take will be on the motion seeking to enforce the Agreement for the unfairCIC.com group and on the issue of permitting a class-action lawsuit. The former can come any day now; the latter, not until late November at the earliest. Justice Barnes revealed on September 18th that he is not comfortable ruling against Jason Kenney, preferring instead to have counsel for both sides reach their own agreement. The test of this approach, however, will come when he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion. If Justice Barnes refuse to enforce the Agreement, he will make clear that applicants' counsel should never sign an agreement with Immigration Canada because it may break the agreement, and the Federal Court will stand idly by, looking the other way. Likewise, if Justice Barnes refuses to enforce the Agreement and refuses to set the other litigants' cases down for hearings, he will demonstrate that “managed proceedings” area fraud.



Therefore, although Justice Barnes' denying the injunction is meaningless in so far as the actual litigants are concerned because CIC has agreed not to destroy the files – only those who cash a refund cheque may be at risk – how he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion will affect how applicants should proceed in the challenge to the closing of their files, making a true class action as the only credible, viable option. While the optics of the ruling will inflict Angst on those whose files have been closed, it has no bearing on the merits of their cause. And, if CIC keeps its word – and Justice Barnes' puts in his written reasons that cashing a refund cheque will not mean that they have abandoned their FSW applications – the injunction would have been redundant anyway.


Regards,


Tim


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Maniraha said:
hi friend

just look to this topic:


Here's an excerpt from the e-mail received from Tim Leahy:

On Tuesday, September 18th, Justice Barnes refused to enjoin CIC from acting on the provision Jason Kenney tucked into Bill C-38, the budget implementation bill, abolishing the immigrant visa applications of 86,000+ skilled workers, who had been waiting in the immigration queue for four to eight years. Justice Barnes did not, however, rule on the legality of the provision closing the FSW applications. A different judge will make that ruling sometime in mid- to late-2013.



Applicants' counsel were seeking an injunction barring CIC from (a) destroying the FSW files and (b) refunding the processing fee so long as the matter was before the courts. CIC told the Federal Court that it would not destroy the files for two years, obviating any need to enjoin it from doing so; and Justice Barnes dismissed applicants' counsels' concern that, if FSW applicants cashed the refund cheques, they would lose their right to have their files processed if the applicants' litigation prevailed. Justice Barnes stated that, in his view, all they would have to do would be to repay the refund cheque and their file would be reinstated. Justice Barnes appears to fear upsetting Jason Kenney by impeding his effort to abolish as many files as he can in order to have a “just in time” process.



Applicants' counsel themselves were not united on the need for such an injunction, believing, as Justice Barnes ruled, that their litigants interested were protected. The real need for the injunction was for the FSW applicants who have not joined the litigation. If they cash the refund cheque, applicants' counsel fear, the FSW applicants will be signing away their right to have their files processed. Justice Barnes cited no authority at the hearing to support his view that all they would have to so would be to repay the fee. If he truly believes what he said, Justice Barnes will affirm this view in his written reasons for denying the injunction. Justice Barnes did state, however, that applicants' counsel may raise the issue again if CIC reverses its pledge not to destroy the FSW files for two years.



The injunction was needed because the Federal Court has not ruled on whether the litigation should proceed as a true class-action lawsuit or as individual litigants moving forward together. In a class-action, all members of the class will receive the same benefit if the litigation prevails. In managed litigation, the ruling will only govern the fate of those who joined the litigation, leaving those who have not joined out in the cold. The Court set the hearing on class certification for November 16th.



Justice Barnes reiterated his preference for managed litigation over a class-action lawsuit. Justice Barnes had previously stated that, because, if the Court strikes down the provision closing the FSW files, the result would affect all FSW applicants, there is no need to certify a class. That view, however, presumes that those who cash their refund cheques will not, by so doing, have effectively abandoned their immigrant-visa application.


The approach, therefore, Justice Barnes took at the hearing on the injunction is more important than the ruling itself. The more important decisions he will take will be on the motion seeking to enforce the Agreement for the unfairCIC.com group and on the issue of permitting a class-action lawsuit. The former can come any day now; the latter, not until late November at the earliest. Justice Barnes revealed on September 18th that he is not comfortable ruling against Jason Kenney, preferring instead to have counsel for both sides reach their own agreement. The test of this approach, however, will come when he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion. If Justice Barnes refuse to enforce the Agreement, he will make clear that applicants' counsel should never sign an agreement with Immigration Canada because it may break the agreement, and the Federal Court will stand idly by, looking the other way. Likewise, if Justice Barnes refuses to enforce the Agreement and refuses to set the other litigants' cases down for hearings, he will demonstrate that “managed proceedings” area fraud.



Therefore, although Justice Barnes' denying the injunction is meaningless in so far as the actual litigants are concerned because CIC has agreed not to destroy the files – only those who cash a refund cheque may be at risk – how he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion will affect how applicants should proceed in the challenge to the closing of their files, making a true class action as the only credible, viable option. While the optics of the ruling will inflict Angst on those whose files have been closed, it has no bearing on the merits of their cause. And, if CIC keeps its word – and Justice Barnes' puts in his written reasons that cashing a refund cheque will not mean that they have abandoned their FSW applications – the injunction would have been redundant anyway.


Regards,


Tim


whats your idea?!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Maniraha! I just read this from the other thread. It looks good, but it squeezing my brain out, its full of legal terms! :D If my understanding is right, we still have to wait more years for this. Gosh, im aging already. Hope i still have the spirit when i arrive in canada.
 

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Hi Sbernados

realy frustrating, if they ask to wait for another 2 or 3 years and you Know you get good news after all and you reach to your dream , its ok , i think all can wait but it seems they want to make you to give up

no news nothing, no clear respond
just keep telling you wait and wait and wait

hope this thing finish soon and all can get good news soon

realy pray for evry body to get good news soon
 

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I just cant believe that rulers in Canada is like this! Im asking myself now, why did i apply to this country???! They're all CRAP! The way i see it they're just running around the bush. I just wasted my time and money for this dream. Im very disappointed. :((( I used to love this country, i visited this country many times. But now, they give me false hope..
 

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Anyone who gets a response from their lawyers lets post it here.

This is very very very sad news for PRE FEB 2008. :mad:
 

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I do not understand a word of the lengthy statement above,,,I can not extract a positive or negative news out of it,,,,can anyone please summerize what all of this means to us? Will CIC return the files or not?
 

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hopeful4 said:
I do not understand a word of the lengthy statement above,,,I can not extract a positive or negative news out of it,,,,can anyone please summerize what all of this means to us? Will CIC return the files or not?
Hi Hopeful 4

i dont undrestand eighter

as usuall they just play with world and again dont give clear answer to the people to wait or not
just frustrating

i am really dont know what is going on? why they play like this, if you want to proceed then do it if you want to cancel and refound just do why you play with time


hope all this thing got happy ending for all of us
 

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I read many posts on other forums and understood the following
1- The judge did not commit CIC to keep the files. Which means the refund will start soon.
2- IF you get your cheque you still have the chance to challenge CIC in court. Just do not cash it because then your chances will be much less.
3- We have to wait till November just to know if this is going to be a class action or only individual lawsuits (which is not our interest anyway since we are in the case in both cases)
4- The final verdict will not be before mid/late 2013 ,,,another year of waiting and probably in vain.


I have a strong impression that the public opinion in Canada is in favor for the elimination of the backlog,,,and thus the judge does not favor either the processing of our files. He just does not want to bring it straight forward,,,because then it will be against any ethics or morals.. so my fellow applicants, another year of waiting just to hear the judge at the end say: go away , you are worthless trash and not worthy of Canada!!
 

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The stay motion, although dismissed, was successful ;D on many fronts:

1.An agreement was reached with the Department of Justice on behalf of Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) to (1) not initiate communications with applicants to process termination, (2) not issue refunds unless applicants directly wish a refund, and (3) not destroy files until the outcome of the next step in the proceeding in November.
2.It is clear following this proceeding that based on fact and law individual applicants can challenge the termination of their applications in Federal Court, if necessary.
3.The case will now move forward to a Certification Hearing in November 2012 wherein applicants’ counsel will seek to certify a proceeding on behalf of all applicants who are facing termination and do not consent to the termination of their applications.

bellisimolaw
 

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waffek said:
The stay motion, although dismissed, was successful ;D on many fronts:

1.An agreement was reached with the Department of Justice on behalf of Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) to (1) not initiate communications with applicants to process termination, (2) not issue refunds unless applicants directly wish a refund, and (3) not destroy files until the outcome of the next step in the proceeding in November.
2.It is clear following this proceeding that based on fact and law individual applicants can challenge the termination of their applications in Federal Court, if necessary.
3.The case will now move forward to a Certification Hearing in November 2012 wherein applicants' counsel will seek to certify a proceeding on behalf of all applicants who are facing termination and do not consent to the termination of their applications.

bellisimolaw
Dear waffek,,
hi,,did u also joined David Cohen law firm for litigation?how did u get this news from bellismolaw?plz inform us the sources bcz after 3 days we are reading the update like this,if it is true than i think the case is on track for a moment.
Best of luck.
Jevan.
 

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jevan said:
Dear waffek,,
hi,,did u also joined David Cohen law firm for litigation?how did u get this news from bellismolaw?plz inform us the sources bcz after 3 days we are reading the update like this,if it is true than i think the case is on track for a moment.
Best of luck.
Jevan.
please check bellisimo website. The bad news is we have to pay another 500CAD if you wish to join the proceeding on November. I dont know how much money i need to spend just to live in Canada.
 

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My dear kababayan:
There is no harm in joining the class action lawsuit. However, please do not shell out $500 just to join, because that's a lot of money.
 

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My dear kababayan:
There is no harm in joining the class action lawsuit. However, please do not shell out $500 just to join, because that's a lot of money.
Yes, we don't need to shell out that much amount of money and join in the lawsuit. Maybe we can apply again under the new criteria?