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joe07

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Jan 17, 2013
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INDIA
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Visa Office......
New Delhi
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Pre-Assessed..
I checked mine as well as one of my friends application status. looks like a gonner!! well as i said will see if it works tomorrow or maybe by monday. group would appreciate if anyone sees any change from blank to "IP" or "DM" kindly update the group.
cheers
 

wounderful

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Oct 18, 2012
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Islamabad - London
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3111
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-06-2005
AOR Received.
17-07-2005
IELTS Request
original sent with application
File Transfer...
30-09-2010
hopefulever said:
Yes cic updated their site today. My cousin,s file which was DM yesterday, today no such record and when data is entered it says no rcord available.
Same case here, remember CIC can not eliminate our files till court decision come out. either you are litigant or not, do not worry and wait for the out come of hearing. Lets do whatevery CIC wants to it will has no effect if ruling will come in our favor.
 

sac

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Sep 20, 2012
125
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Manila
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
0423
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2008
AOR Received.
28-05-2008
Dalaga said:
I am one of those whose record can't be found anymore in the CIC website. It's stated there that the service is only available to those clients whose applications are in process... FROM "in Process' for more than seven years, then a few days back it was blank and now I can't check anymore. The deleted my file................ :mad:
Hello Dalaga:

Are you a Pre-February 2008 applicant? And which Visa Office did you apply? I was "In Process" about a week ago. Then I went into Blank. Now my status cannot be ascertained. I can only surmise that CIC is upgrading its system to migrate to its "Just in Time" processing of FSW applications.
 

qasim786

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Mar 7, 2010
158
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Karachi
Visa Office......
London,UK
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04/07/2014
Nomination.....
04/11/2014
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
15/4/2015
Med's Done....
28/4/2015
Interview........
Waived (Third line updated on 15th May 2015)
Passport Req..
04th Sept 2015
LANDED..........
......In Sha Allah all on 23/10/2015

joe07

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Jan 17, 2013
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sac said:
Hello Dalaga:

Are you a Pre-February 2008 applicant? And which Visa Office did you apply? I was "In Process" about a week ago. Then I went into Blank. Now my status cannot be ascertained. I can only surmise that CIC is upgrading its system to migrate to its "Just in Time" processing of FSW applications.
yup looks like that. as i said in my earlier post they might be migrating the application or upgrading the system. As someone rightly said CIC cannot eliminate any application unless the final verdict is out..hope this is a new beginning for our stressful days..
 

joe07

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Jan 17, 2013
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What I have noticed is if you give a wrong information also to check ur status if shows the same comments. That’s weird !!!
 

Fate_vs_Faith

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Dec 8, 2012
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CanadaSet said:
new computer glitch :'(

from 'in process' to 'DM' to 'blank' and now 'cannot find my details'......within 3 weeks, the status has changed 3 times ::)
Hi everyone, status also changed from "in process" to "DM" and then BLANk and now no data available about our files.

Plz check in on-line services of CIC at the end of the left side page it is showing old date of last year 2012 "Date Modified: 2012-06-12"
????????? why old date of year 2012 when everytime CIC updates its website it shows current date.
 

can88da

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Jan 9, 2013
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Karachi
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad than London
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-01-2008
AOR Received.
21-02-2008
File Transfer...
10-01-2011
If you are one of those people who cannot view their e-cas status on the CIC website then please read below

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=030&t=3

They have removed all applications with DM status.
 

delhi

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Jan 11, 2013
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kau_shik_patel said:
Latest on court case proceedings by Tim Leahy :

Dear Litigant,

While one should never project how a judge will rule on an issue, a judge's comments at hearing are often indicative of how the judge views the issues. By that standard, the January 14th-16th hearing went extremely well for the applicants.

Without delving into the many legal issues debated at the hearing, I will just share some of the major points. Applicants' counsel argued that the Minister discriminated against the applicants by having forced them to apply at only one visa post and then not allocating a high enough quota to finalize their files in the same time-frame as occurred in Western Europe or the Americas. If the Court agrees that, owing to unlawful discrimination, the backlog issue arose, the Court could declare s 87.4 to be unlawful because, in effect, it would reward CIC for having discriminated against the s. 87.4 victims in the first place.

DoJ (Department of Justice) was unable to present a credible reason to justify closing of the files. Justice Rennie pointedly asked, in effect: "Yes, backlogs are bad and just-in-time processing is good. But, (a) is the only way to achieve the latter to abolish the backlogged files and (b) are clearing the backlog and just-in-time processing mutually exclusive?" (paraphrase). In other words, why cannot CIC institute a just-in-time processing system for new applications while clearing out the backlog: i..e, have two streams of FSW processing? In other words, Justice Rennie reflected the view that most Canadians would have if informed of the facts of the Minister's grand deceit.

Justice Rennie proved himself to be alert and alive to Charter issues, which Rocco Galatti brilliantly articulated. In his reply, Mr. Galatti had the entire courtroom silent, intensely listening to his every word. As one lawyer present put it: "I felt privileged to have been there to hear him". Mr. Galatti praised Justice Rennie after the hearing for appearing to have strong grasp of constitutional law and a keen interest in getting it right. So, we are lucky to have drawn a judge with Justice Rennie's knowledge of constitutional law and interest in deepening his knowledge. In fact, Justice Rennie thanked counsel for the insight they shared into Charter law, adding that his understanding had grown as a result.

So, as I said, one should never be too confident of how a judge will rule but Justice Rennie appears to understand applicants' arguments, to find troubling the arbitrary closing of so many files without any cogent justification beyond "Might makes Right" and to be sympathetic to the applicants' plight. Justice Rennie also mentioned that he expects to permit the losing party to appeal the case to the Federal Court of Appeal. So, even if we win at this stage, it may not be over.

In anticipation of an appeal, Mario Bellissimo asked Justice Rennie if he rules in our favour, to oblige CIC to resume processing of the litigants' files during any appeal. Thus, if Justice Rennie rules in our favour and requires CIC to resume processing while it appeals his decision, your cases will go forward.

With respect to our own group, DoJ has asked Justice Barnes to cancel Justice Rennie's order allowing our cases to proceed and to hold our cases hostage to the s. 87.4 litigation ultimately disposition. Time will tell whether Justice Barnes will reverse course and finally render a decision consistent with duty under the law. Since July, Justice Barnes has been obdurately refusing to comply with s. 74, which requires him to set down for hearing each of our cases because (a) on 7 December 2011, he issued an order stating that each order and direction would apply to each of the litigant's case, (b) on 25 April 2012 ordered out lead case, Dong Liang, be decided on the merits (c) Justice Rennie failed to act in accordance with the December 7th order when he declined to render the same order for the rest of the litigants as he did for Mr. Liang, ruling that he would not be doing so because the Protocol (Agreement) governed disposition of the other files and (d) on July 10th, DoJ advised the Court that it would not honour the Agreement with respect to any file not assessed by March 29th. At that point, Justice Barnes knew -- assuming a minimum degree of competence -- that he was obliged either to enforce the Protocol or set all the cases down for hearings. On December 14th, he refused to do the former, thereby obliging himself to do the latter, assuming a willingness to comply with the law. However, in view of how he has conducted himself vis-à-vis our group to date, there is no basis to be confident that Justice Barnes will at long last do his duty and behave ethically.

So, our fate effectively turns on the outcome of the January hearing, except that, if Justice Rennie strikes down s. 87.4, CIC would have no basis to argue that it would "contrary to law" for the Minister to keep his word. Moreover, on November 29th, when he issued Operational Bulletin 479-B, the Minister confirmed what I had been saying since June: The Minister has the means for keeping his word to our litigants and to the Federal Court.

Now we wait for the next chapters of our saga. Hopefully with a bit more optimism how that our fate is in hands of a jurist who actually appears desirous of issuing a proper decision (as opposed to doing whatever a DoJ lawyer bids him to do).

Regards,

Tim






Hi all,
Can any one please explain what does this mean...by reading this I am getting confused . I am writing first time in this forum however read all the post.
 

hopefulever

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Feb 11, 2012
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Nov 2008
Following may be the latest situation based upon change in status :

ALL 20000 APPLICATIONS MAY BE PROCESSED BY MAY 2013

ALL LITIGANTS MAY BE PROCESSED WITHIN A SPECIFIED TIME FRAME AS INSTRUCTED BY COURT.

COURT MAY NOT GIVE CLEAR ORDER TO STRUCK/ABOLISH LAW BUT KEEP IT PENDING FOR FURTHER HEARINGS.

TILL THE FINAL OUTCOME ALL THE NON LITIGANT FILES WILL BE GIVEN NO STATUS .
 

sac

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Sep 20, 2012
125
4
Manila
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Manila
NOC Code......
0423
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-01-2008
AOR Received.
28-05-2008
hopefulever said:
Following may be the latest situation based upon change in status :

ALL 20000 APPLICATIONS MAY BE PROCESSED BY MAY 2013

ALL LITIGANTS MAY BE PROCESSED WITHIN A SPECIFIED TIME FRAME AS INSTRUCTED BY COURT.

COURT MAY NOT GIVE CLEAR ORDER TO STRUCK/ABOLISH LAW BUT KEEP IT PENDING FOR FURTHER HEARINGS.

TILL THE FINAL OUTCOME ALL THE NON LITIGANT FILES WILL BE GIVEN NO STATUS .
I venture and would like to think that these are all your speculations, based on what you observe as happening these days.
 

hopeful4

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Sep 2, 2012
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4012
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28-9-2007
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10-3-2010
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18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
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17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
can88da said:
If you are one of those people who cannot view their e-cas status on the CIC website then please read below

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=030&t=3

They have removed all applications with DM status.
yes but please also note:permanent Residents applications will stay in CAS for 180 days after the applicant has landed.
your applications bearly stayed 21 after DM;;;;;;maybe vecause DM was refusal not acceptance
 

farmerofthedell

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Jun 21, 2012
89
10
Vancouver, BC
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
0016
App. Filed.......
2014-09-12
AOR Received.
2014-12-30
File Transfer...
2015-01-08
Med's Request
2015-07-02
Med's Done....
2015-07-07
Passport Req..
2015-08-04
VISA ISSUED...
2015-08-21
LANDED..........
2016-03-18
hopeful4 said:
yes but please also note:permanent Residents applications will stay in CAS for 180 days after the applicant has landed.
your applications bearly stayed 21 after DM;;;;;;maybe vecause DM was refusal not acceptance
Refusals stay for 365 days, so it isn't refusal either.
 

Johnny31

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Dec 25, 2011
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farmerofthedell said:
Refusals stay for 365 days, so it isn't refusal either.
Not entirely correct, I've seen refusals disappear before 365 days.
 

jevan

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Apr 20, 2011
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CHC Islamabad
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2231
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23-May-2007
AOR Received.
19-June-2007
In CIC website it is clearly mentioned that u may not be able to access ur e-status;
a)DM status for PR applicants will remain until 180 days after that u can't access the e-status.
AND
b)during the maintenance of the system u will not access ur e-status.
Hope the (b) option is going to be executed by CIC.