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A briefing on the hearings which concluded in the Court room :

#) The lawyers challenging 87.4 tagged it, in violation of constitutional and human rights law, and pleaded to abolish the same. On the other hand, CIC lawyer argued that the Govt. has the right to frame law, keeping in mind,Canada's economy & the interest of new immigrants. Justise Rennie questioned CIC Lawyer that his arguments might support Canada's economy, but not in the sake of applicants.

#) CIC Lawyer arguments included that older Immigrants are hard to find jobs in Canada, to which Justice Rennie termed 'hypothetical'. CIC Lawyer had no data to support his cause. Also, CIC Lawyer pleaded that the new Immigrants are more likely to integrate in their society. Justice asked the CIC Lawyer that if an old applicant can re-apply, why can't he be processed on his older application? Further more, CIC Lawyer pleaded that if an application is submitted in CIC, it will be processed to conclusion, which is why Deptt Immigration is legal.

#) Justice Rennie asked that prior to framing of new law (87.4), no national consensus was carried out. Whereas in Newzealand, the similar law was framed after 4 months of public consultation. Rennie concluded with, "No Public Consultation".

#) Lawyers challenging 87.4 pleaded that an interest, if any, should not over ride constitutional guarantees of human rights, while dealing the backlog. It stands against section 7 of the constitution to delete the FSW backlog, created due to Deptt Immigration in itself.
 
joe07 said:
Just got an unofficial information that all the pre 2008 cases will be dealt with a pilot program ( purely un-official ), have been following this thread for a while since I belong in this group of affected applicants. From a manager in last 6 years I have become an Associate Vice President of a public limited company. Does the minister still believe that applicants prior to 2008 are not capable enough. Am sure all of us have grown immensely in our career but has opted Canada for having a better quality of life for whatever the reason maybe. The updates today was soothing to read hope that the verdict is in our favor and all of us have a chance to prove ourselves in our respective fields in Canada. All the best Guys and keep posting the updates at least some relief for the people who is eagerly waiting for some news. And one request to people in the group who has been negative about everything – I appreciate what you say which makes lot of sense but let the court rule its verdict till then let many have a sound sleep and dream big."Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain".



Group keep the post alive and keep posting. One day we might have to bite the bullet if not will have a happy ending..

Cheers


Dear Joe07,
I wonder how it will work seeing that the backlog is 280 000 what about the others already waiting in the queue let alone the new applicants in May'13. I know your's is un-official but i'm just wondering
 
jevan said:
brother did u reported ur lawyer about the current changing in e-status?

Yes, I did.
 
Knight_Crusader said:
when can we have the official outcome out ?

It depends on Judge, but expected soon, may be within couple of week.
 
Knight_Crusader said:
when can we have the official outcome out ?

Could be anytime now. But, the norm is 2 to 4 weeks.

Last time in Liang's case, Justice Rennie took 9 days to deliver his ruling. (The hearing took place on 5 June 2012 and the judgement was given on 14 June 2012.)

This time if it could be faster, then more the merrier we will be. ;D
 
Dear Warmest,
what is ur expert opinion now keep in view the expected judgment for litigants as well as for non litigants?
 
Friends,

CIC really smells a negative verdict, its evident due to the reason that the one of the most active anti pre June 2008 applicants and pro JK, is not seen in the picture since morning. Hope CIC accepted the defeat. Thanks to God for his mercy towards all of us.
 
Latest updates in IMM-5635-12 Tabingo

Toronto 14-JAN-2013 BEFORE The Honourable Mr. Justice Rennie Language: E Before the Court: Judicial Review Result of Hearing: Matter reserved held in Court Senior Usher: Joe Mischuk Duration per day: 14-JAN-2013 from 09:45 to 03:55 Courtroom : Courtroom No. 6-D - Toronto Court Registrar: Cherlin McColman 15-JAN-2013 from 09:35 to 04:35 Courtroom : Courtroom No. 6-D - Toronto Court Registrar: Cherlin McColman 16-JAN-2013 from 09:35 to 04:15 Courtroom : Courtroom No. 6-D - Toronto Court Registrar: Cherlin McColman Total Duration: 3d Appearances: Mr. Lorne Waldman 416-482-6501 representing Applicant Ms. Jacquline Swaisland 416-482-6501 representing Applicant Mr. Matthew Jeffrey 416- representing Applicant Mr. Mario Belllissimo 416-787-6505 representing Applicant Ms. Erin Roth 416-787-6505 representing Applicant Mr. Rocco Galati 416-530-9684 representing Applicant Mr. Lawrence Wong 604-739-0118 representing Applicant Mr. Keith Reimer 604-666-2639 representing Respondent Mr. Martin Anderson 416- representing Respondent Ms. Jocelyn Espejo-Clarke 416 representing Respondent Mr. C. Julian Jubenville 416 representing Respondent Court Reporter: Catherine Keenan 416-861-8720 14-JAN-2013 Catherine Keenan 416-861-8720 15-JAN-2013 Catherine Keenan 416-861-8720 16-JAN-2013 Transcript not requested Comments: A one-page statistical report from Mr. Bellissimo is due by Monday, January 21, 2013. Any response from the Respondent is due by Friday, January 25, 2013. The Applicants' certified questions shall be submitted by Monday, January 21, 2013. The Respondent's submissions in response are due by Friday, January 25, 2013. Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 276 page(s) 354 - 389 Abstract of Hearing placed on file.
 
Means that the decision will come after Jan 25th, hopefully in first week of Feb 2013. Good Luck to all.
 
Knight_Crusader said:
I hope you haven't spoken too soon, lets at least wait till the verdict.

Agree,
 
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Group keep the post alive and keep posting. One day we might have to bite the bullet if not will have a happy ending..

Cheers

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agree :) and there's always a rainbow after the rain..
 
Can any body say whether the litigants of Tim also will be beneficiries of the out come of currently concluded hearing, if we get a positive judgement?
 
Shajitmathew said:
Can any body say whether the litigants of Tim also will be beneficiries of the out come of currently concluded hearing, if we get a positive judgement?
dear if u are a part litigant of Tim then what is ur current estatus inprocess,DM or Blank?
I think positive verdict will be for all pre feb 2008 applicants too.