FBI fingerprints rejected: submit application or wait

[sea83]

Hi guys,

I am new to this forum.

I received a letter from the FBI explaining that my fingerprints were not taken properly. My ITA (received ITA late April) will expire in few days. I am deciding on what to do:

1- Submit the application with a letter of explanation and with a proof of other cards sent to the FBI (will be sent this week)
- My fingerprint card will take more than 60 days to arrive, will cic be ok with that or will they reject the application. If so will they refund the fee? Will this save time in processing my cic application or is it just a way not to lose the ITA (my score is higher than 470)

2- Decline the invitation and wait few weeks before submitting my cic profile again.
- In this case, would declining an ITA have any effect on future applications?


Thank you for the advice!

 

[FMCAD]

Your score is higher than 470 which is very good for you. To play very safe it's better to decline ITA and wait for next draw which could occur in coming week, then you will have another 60days in hand to apply and submit application.

There is a little risk if you submit without PCC, either it will get delayed in processing till you submit PCC or you will get rejection depends on Visa Officer, if you want to play with a little risk you can opt for this, Apply now with a LOE explanation

In the end you have to make your own wise decision

 

[mamaJM]

Hi guys,

I am new to this forum.

I received a letter from the FBI explaining that my fingerprints were not taken properly. My ITA (received ITA late April) will expire in few days. I am deciding on what to do:

1- Submit the application with a letter of explanation and with a proof of other cards sent to the FBI (will be sent this week)
- My fingerprint card will take more than 60 days to arrive, will cic be ok with that or will they reject the application. If so will they refund the fee? Will this save time in processing my cic application or is it just a way not to lose the ITA (my score is higher than 470)

2- Decline the invitation and wait few weeks before submitting my cic profile again.
- In this case, would declining an ITA have any effect on future applications?


Thank you for the advice!

You can go ahead and apply, include a LOE to explain the situation, include the document from FBI that says your prints were rejected and details of the new application; and ask nicely for an extension. CIC understands the issue with FBI, they usually grant an extension if evidences are provided that indicate you tried your best. Submit your application close to your deadline so you can buy yourself some more time in addition to the extra 60 days they will give you, since FBI takes about 3.5months. Make sure you have your prints taken by a professional to avoid future rejection.
I am also waiting for my spouse's FBI and they gave me another 60days after I submitted.

Do not decline your ITA, you never can tell when you will get another. It's only safe to decline if you have a PNP.
Good luck!

 

[dks2323]

1- Submit the application with a letter of explanation and with a proof of other cards sent to the FBI (will be sent this week)
- My fingerprint card will take more than 60 days to arrive, will cic be ok with that or will they reject the application. If so will they refund the fee? Will this save time in processing my cic application or is it just a way not to lose the ITA (my score is higher than 470)

2- Decline the invitation and wait few weeks before submitting my cic profile again.
- In this case, would declining an ITA have any effect on future applications?

Don't decline the ITA....submit your application with a letter of explaination (LOE ) in place of US PCC....attach all the proofs that show that you applied for it and your fingerprints were rejected....get your fringprints done again and send your application to FBI...attach this proof too that you have sent your application again.....

CIC understands that PCC (specially US) takes time....they usually provide 60 days extension to provide the PCC....and this 60 days extension can be more than once provided that you have all the proofs ready to show that you are making all the efforts...

 

[sea83]

Thank you guys for the replies and help. I am going to decline the ITA and will submit my profile again in few weeks.

I have taken a look at historical data and did some basic trend analysis and this is what I came up with:


Draw Date Score ITAs Frequency
1 Saturday, January 31, 2015 886 779 7
2 Saturday, February 7, 2015 818 779 13
3 Friday, February 20, 2015 808 849 7
4 Friday, February 27, 2015 735 1,187 21
5 Friday, March 20, 2015 481 1,620 7
6 Friday, March 27, 2015 453 1,637 14
7 Friday, April 10, 2015 469 925 7
8 Friday, April 17, 2015 453 715 35
9 Friday, May 22, 2015 755 1,361 21
10 Friday, June 12, 2015 482 1,501 15
11 Saturday, June 27, 2015 469 1,575 13
12 Friday, July 10, 2015 463 1,516 7
13 Friday, July 17, 2015 451 1,581 21
14 Friday, August 7, 2015 471 1,402 14
15 Friday, August 21, 2015 456 1,523 18
16 Tuesday, September 8, 2015 459 1,517 10
17 Friday, September 18, 2015 450 1,545 14
18 Friday, October 2, 2015 450 1,530 21
19 Friday, October 23, 2015 489 1,502 21
20 Friday, November 13, 2015 484 1,506 14
21 Friday, November 27, 2015 472 1,559 7
22 Friday, December 4, 2015 461 1,451 14
23 Friday, December 18, 2015 460 1,503 19
24 Wednesday, January 6, 2016 461 1,463 7
25 Wednesday, January 13, 2016 453 1,518 15
26 Thursday, January 28, 2016 457 1,468 13
27 Wednesday, February 10, 2016 459 1,505 14
28 Wednesday, February 24, 2016 453 1,484 13
29 Tuesday, March 8, 2016 473 1,013 15
30 Wednesday, March 23, 2016 470 1,014 14
31 Wednesday, April 6, 2016 470 954 14
32 Wednesday, April 20, 2016 468 1,018 16
33 Friday, May 6, 2016 534 799 12
34 Wednesday, May 18, 2016 484 763 14
35 Wednesday, June 1, 2016 483 762 14
36 Wednesday, June 15, 2016 488 752 14
37 Wednesday, June 29, 2016 468 1,053 14
38 Wednesday, July 13, 2016 467 1,037 14
39 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 467 1,021 14
40 Wednesday, August 10, 2016 466 1,006 14
41 Wednesday, August 24, 2016 466 990 14
42 Wednesday, September 7, 2016 465 975 14
43 Wednesday, September 21, 2016 465 959 14
44 Thursday, October 6, 2016 464 944 14
45 Thursday, October 20, 2016 463 928 14
46 Thursday, November 3, 2016 463 913 14
47 Thursday, November 17, 2016 462 897 14
48 Thursday, December 1, 2016 462 882 14
49 Thursday, December 15, 2016 461 866 14
50 Thursday, December 29, 2016 461 851 14

 

[tejasmhaskar]

Thank you guys for the replies and help. I am going to decline the ITA and will submit my profile again in few weeks.

I have taken a look at historical data and did some basic trend analysis and this is what I came up with:


Draw Date Score ITAs Frequency
1 Saturday, January 31, 2015 886 779 7
2 Saturday, February 7, 2015 818 779 13
3 Friday, February 20, 2015 808 849 7
4 Friday, February 27, 2015 735 1,187 21
5 Friday, March 20, 2015 481 1,620 7
6 Friday, March 27, 2015 453 1,637 14
7 Friday, April 10, 2015 469 925 7
8 Friday, April 17, 2015 453 715 35
9 Friday, May 22, 2015 755 1,361 21
10 Friday, June 12, 2015 482 1,501 15
11 Saturday, June 27, 2015 469 1,575 13
12 Friday, July 10, 2015 463 1,516 7
13 Friday, July 17, 2015 451 1,581 21
14 Friday, August 7, 2015 471 1,402 14
15 Friday, August 21, 2015 456 1,523 18
16 Tuesday, September 8, 2015 459 1,517 10
17 Friday, September 18, 2015 450 1,545 14
18 Friday, October 2, 2015 450 1,530 21
19 Friday, October 23, 2015 489 1,502 21
20 Friday, November 13, 2015 484 1,506 14
21 Friday, November 27, 2015 472 1,559 7
22 Friday, December 4, 2015 461 1,451 14
23 Friday, December 18, 2015 460 1,503 19
24 Wednesday, January 6, 2016 461 1,463 7
25 Wednesday, January 13, 2016 453 1,518 15
26 Thursday, January 28, 2016 457 1,468 13
27 Wednesday, February 10, 2016 459 1,505 14
28 Wednesday, February 24, 2016 453 1,484 13
29 Tuesday, March 8, 2016 473 1,013 15
30 Wednesday, March 23, 2016 470 1,014 14
31 Wednesday, April 6, 2016 470 954 14
32 Wednesday, April 20, 2016 468 1,018 16
33 Friday, May 6, 2016 534 799 12
34 Wednesday, May 18, 2016 484 763 14
35 Wednesday, June 1, 2016 483 762 14
36 Wednesday, June 15, 2016 488 752 14
37 Wednesday, June 29, 2016 468 1,053 14
38 Wednesday, July 13, 2016 467 1,037 14
39 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 467 1,021 14
40 Wednesday, August 10, 2016 466 1,006 14
41 Wednesday, August 24, 2016 466 990 14
42 Wednesday, September 7, 2016 465 975 14
43 Wednesday, September 21, 2016 465 959 14
44 Thursday, October 6, 2016 464 944 14
45 Thursday, October 20, 2016 463 928 14
46 Thursday, November 3, 2016 463 913 14
47 Thursday, November 17, 2016 462 897 14
48 Thursday, December 1, 2016 462 882 14
49 Thursday, December 15, 2016 461 866 14
50 Thursday, December 29, 2016 461 851 14

Can you specify your model? Have you factored the underlying score distribution? Or have you just used an Autoregressive model ?

 

[moderator1983]

I'm curious too and want to look at the model you used for the analysis...!!
Well you can use your model and try to generate last two actual draw results (on June 1, 2016 & June 15, 2016) and compare if it is any close to 483 & 488 respectively... that will definitely wake you up and bring to the real world...!!

PS: I loved the result and wish if its true...

 

[sea83]

It's not really a model , I used the trend function in excel. I started with the frequencies, then the scores and ITA#.

 

[sea83]

At least I got the date right June 29th

Let's see if July 13th is the next draw