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fatani

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I am facing a problem I have sent PMs to some senior members as well and receive some msgs but I want some more answers from senior members so I decided to start this thread.

I have a problem of name. I have two names first name AAAA last name BBBB. Both my names are same in my all documents educational as well as ID card / Passport.

Now the problem is that my father name is has spelling mistakes as well as full name error but thats interesting as well.

My father name in my ID/Passport is ( Abu Bakar Fatani)

My father name in my educational docs is (Aboo Baker) only.

My father name in his Passport is (Aboo Baker Fatani).

So now I have the problem I dont want to change my father name in any of my documents because it is a looong and hectic process in my country and I know that I dont have the power to do that. I have heard people saying about affidavits but my questions are

1. Can I make affidavit alone without needing my father in it? (But there is no problem in my name)

2. If my father makes an affidavit how will he make it and how can it help me because I am applying not my father?

3. As I am not changing my names looking for an affidavit only so do I still have to choose the option that I have used different names?

Please help guys
 

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I have an arabic name with misspelled letters as well. I travelled to many western countries and it always caused some confusion because of the different style but really nothing more than that. I don't think you need to worry about it too much.

ABU or ABOO sound the same and it is clear they are the same. What matters is to make sure you match whatever in the passport. That's your official document. If your name is spelled the same in your birth certificate attach it as well as an additional supporting. I don't think u need an affidavit, just an LOE if you really need to explain.

Generally for Arabic names, this is the way people write it in Western style:
LAST NAME: FATANI
First/Given name: FIRST-NAME ABUBAKAR (preferably without space because people will think they're three names). Usually if there is a seperate field: Middle name, I write my father name in it.

That's my 2 cents and seniors might have better advise.
 

fatani

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confused_aj said:
I have an arabic name with misspelled letters as well. I travelled to many western countries and it always caused some confusion because of the different style but really nothing more than that. I don't think you need to worry about it too much.

ABU or ABOO sound the same and it is clear they are the same. What matters is to make sure you match whatever in the passport. That's your official document. If your name is spelled the same in your birth certificate attach it as well as an additional supporting. I don't think u need an affidavit, just an LOE if you really need to explain.

Generally for Arabic names, this is the way people write it in Western style:
LAST NAME: FATANI
First/Given name: FIRST-NAME ABUBAKAR (preferably without space because people will think they're three names). Usually if there is a seperate field: Middle name, I write my father name in it.

That's my 2 cents and seniors might have better advise.
Thanks for your reply. But the name Abu Bakar is written with the space. Seniors might shed some more light in this topic
 

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fatani said:
Anyone please help
its quite confusing unfortunately...

can you not apply for a new passport with the corrected name/spelling of your father ?

but i'm trying to think - why would you need to submit fathers ID anyway ?? i mean only in passport they have fathers name, education documents is probably not mentioned (i'm talking about the degree, atleast in my country its not there) and only other place you need to mention fathers name is on the family history page...
 

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thestunner316 said:
its quite confusing unfortunately...

can you not apply for a new passport with the corrected name/spelling of your father ?

but i'm trying to think - why would you need to submit fathers ID anyway ?? i mean only in passport they have fathers name, education documents is probably not mentioned (i'm talking about the degree, atleast in my country its not there) and only other place you need to mention fathers name is on the family history page...
In my country unfortunately fathers name is mentioned in all docs. I dont want to get my passport changed because its a long long and hectic process and then i have to explain all these things to IRCC which will make it more complicated. The problem is that we have to upload degrees post ITA so in my degree my father name is spelled differently than in my passport so that can raise a few eyebrows so i am happy with making an affidavit for one and same person but I dont know who will make it? Is it me or my father because my father is not applying so how will his affidavit will work for me and my full name is same so how will i make affidavit for my father name including my name too that i am the same person
 

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fatani said:
In my country unfortunately fathers name is mentioned in all docs. I dont want to get my passport changed because its a long long and hectic process and then i have to explain all these things to IRCC which will make it more complicated. The problem is that we have to upload degrees post ITA so in my degree my father name is spelled differently than in my passport so that can raise a few eyebrows so i am happy with making an affidavit for one and same person but I dont know who will make it? Is it me or my father because my father is not applying so how will his affidavit will work for me and my full name is same so how will i make affidavit for my father name including my name too that i am the same person
ok so anyone who has made an affidavit of one and same person will have to help here on how its done...

you dont have to get all worked up :) i know its stressful but yours is not that complicated a case, so once you have this affidavit plus LOE - it should be fine...

try googling affidavits and see what you find... :)
 

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thestunner316 said:
ok so anyone who has made an affidavit of one and same person will have to help here on how its done...

you dont have to get all worked up :) i know its stressful but yours is not that complicated a case, so once you have this affidavit plus LOE - it should be fine...

try googling affidavits and see what you find... :)
Thanks for your help. Any other guys which had similar cases or one who can provide me right kind of affidavit and tell me clearly who is going to make it?
 

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fatani said:
Thanks for your help. Any other guys which had similar cases or one who can provide me right kind of affidavit and tell me clearly who is going to make it?

Are you inland? Where in Canada are you?
 

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Itsmee said:
Are you inland? Where in Canada are you? and How convenient it is for your father to get OTSP affidavit?
I can tell you all info about one and the same person affidavit...I got it made from scratch by AG lawyers Calgary for $80... but in your case I am confused if you need OTSP affidavit or your father needs one...

Ask here if legally it is possible for you to declare two different spellings of your father's name in an affidavit....or your father needs to create one himself...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t474762.0.html;msg5778715#msg5778715
 

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Itsmee said:
I can tell you all info about one and the same person affidavit...I got it made from scratch by AG lawyers Calgary for $80... but in your case I am confused if you need OTSP affidavit or your father needs one...

Ask here if legally it is possible for you to declare two different spellings of your father's name in an affidavit....or your father needs to create one himself...

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t474762.0.html;msg5778715#msg5778715
IMHO father needs to create one... what do others think ?
 

fatani

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thestunner316 said:
IMHO father needs to create one... what do others think ?
Some people say I had to create one and mention all the variants my father used. Some say my father has to create one it is confusing
 

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Hi, my father is a lawyer and I tried explaining your situation to him. He suggested it should be your father who gets the affidavit made and mention all names on that and a possible reason for why there were differences in the names. Complicated situation but I think it's your documents and your name that will be scrutinized for genuineness. But I do recommend explaining it to IRCC in detail.
 

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Janaki Iyer said:
Hi, my father is a lawyer and I tried explaining your situation to him. He suggested it should be your father who gets the affidavit made and mention all names on that and a possible reason for why there were differences in the names. Complicated situation but I think it's your documents and your name that will be scrutinized for genuineness. But I do recommend explaining it to IRCC in detail.
But the thing is that my father is not applying and he has the same name on his passport which is written on my educational docs. Only my passport has his name spelled differently. So cant I make an affidavit that in some of my documents my father name is spelled like this and I guarantee that I am one and same person
 

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fatani said:
But the thing is that my father is not applying and he has the same name on his passport which is written on my educational docs. Only my passport has his name spelled differently. So cant I make an affidavit that in some of my documents my father name is spelled like this and I guarantee that I am one and same person
Read through the entire thread again. What does your ECA report have? Does that match your passport or your educational documents? In my case too my father's name is included on all my documents, so it is like my middle name, in which case it might look like you have two names. So I think it should be you who gets the affidavit. Also, I think you should not say yes to the question: have you changed your name or had a different name? Because that would mean you have gone through the name change process intentionally and have the documents to prove that. This on the other hand is like clarifying the unintentional mistake? That's my take on it.