Fake Canadian Immigration Team

[jsm0085]

It's just all a little out of proportion guys. Sending reports to CIC, CBSA... Spreadsheets?

This kind of stuff isn't new. But there is something very off with these reports for sure.

 

[BadLuck]

Every user who has suffered from this has less than 10 posts? Hello?

I don't know why y'all going crazy. These guys have inputted details somewhere or given them to an agency in India... This isn't fraud that's happening in North America.

User post number doesn't tells you about the truth of the story is it?? I was fooled yesterday that's why thought to share my story didn't realize that only "Smart" people are allowed in this forum.

Sorry try to avoid reading these story and hope you won't face any problem in life ... god bless you.

Forgot to mention one thing when the numbers were traced back those were from Canada Using Bell Land line. Even the money was withdrawn from CANADA as mentioned by Moneygram business department

 

[BadLuck]

Ok. What ARE the similarities between all the people who have received these phone calls? This thread provides a perfect platform to determine if there is a link. Which Visa Office? Was an agency used or was application sent directly to Embassy? Any thoughts?!

I didn't use any agent did it myself and the file was used to send the details in Mississauga Branch. I Feel someone is involved may be postal delivery man. Even he can take a picture of the envelope. It contains visa type application, sender address, email and phone number.

 

[BadLuck]

Please share the phone number where you got the call.. We will blcok the number in our phones as preventive action..

Phone numbers used: 416-362-9842, 9751591628

 

[jsm0085]

And what did you think the 5k wire transfer was for?

 

[BadLuck]

Second that. Guess you're all aware of my love to google forms by now,
so I created a form ( can be edited and extended at any time ) to gather all the information
about the scam calls.

Please, everyone who received a call, use the form to submit information about the scam.

docs.google.com/forms/d/1yhAi2JuOw56uoW50gWp6WrIYa1urrihPlu2Hq0vKWow/viewform


Results can be viewed, but not edited here

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsFmKvHOgoF5dDRSUU4yYmpPUm5jd0pocmIyMFk4R3c&usp=drive_web

I have filled up my details ...

 

[BadLuck]

And what did you think the 5k wire transfer was for?

They had information about my records, they mentioned next day some officer will visit my permanent address in Canada to verify my address as there are many people who are providing friends address for immigration purpose. The Officer will bring a cheque with all amount except $600 dollars that is the charge for IOC card. Indian Oversea Citizenship card, I even told them I didn't hear of this but heard of OCI though. They said this is new process after the strike was taken off this was added and that the reason for the call.They are trying to clear the pending files as soon as possible.

See I waiting for my wife for long time and they made me fool on that very aspect ..

 

[SenoritaBella]

We all like to think we would do this/that but hindsight is 20/20. If immigration fraud is going on what does it matter that it is not in North America? There was a corrupt Senior Immigration Officer in the Etobicoke office I think, extorting money from applicants of Hispanic origin(he came from Brazil) and he was sentenced earlier this year. Also, an immigration lawyer in Windsor sentenced too. Even a judge who asked for sexual favors in exchange for granting citizenship. So who knows whether or not there isn't a corrupt officer somewhere in India?

The common denominator in all this is the fraudsters have personal information and prey on people who are 1. vulnerable, 2. probably don't understand/speak English/French well enough to understand when being taken advantage of, 3. come from countries where they are taught to obey/respect authority, therefore less likely to question what would be odd to others, will not make trouble, etc.

So instead of chastising them for not being a genius, they should be commended for being courageous to share their ordeal. It must be embarrassing enough for them to learn they were fooled and we could all do well to be sensitive to that.

And what did you think the 5k wire transfer was for?

 

[SenoritaBella]

Sorry you went through such an ordeal and lost a lot of money. It seems they are targeting people from a particular country, which leads me to believe the fraud is probably originating from India(did you submit documents for any type of visa there either through an agency or directly to the embassy?), then information being sold to their 'partners' in Canada, hence the Canadian phone number. Though, with VOIP, it's possible to get any type of local access number.

In the future, if you get a call like that from any agency(even if it's the bank), ask for their full name, position & number and say you are busy but will call them back after verifying that they are who they say they are. Call this office/agency yourself and find out if they really contacted you. If it's a fraudster, they will either try to rush you, intimidate you or threaten you. If they are genuine, they should have no problem with this.

They had information about my records, they mentioned next day some officer will visit my permanent address in Canada to verify my address as there are many people who are providing friends address for immigration purpose. The Officer will bring a cheque with all amount except $600 dollars that is the charge for IOC card. Indian Oversea Citizenship card, I even told them I didn't hear of this but heard of OCI though. They said this is new process after the strike was taken off this was added and that the reason for the call.They are trying to clear the pending files as soon as possible.

See I waiting for my wife for long time and they made me fool on that very aspect ..

 

[Omshri]

I think people are targeted who are on work permit in Canada and mostly India origin..

 

[new_guy]

We all like to think we would do this/that but hindsight is 20/20. If immigration fraud is going on what does it matter that it is not in North America? There was a corrupt Senior Immigration Officer in the Etobicoke office I think, extorting money from applicants of Hispanic origin(he came from Brazil) and he was sentenced earlier this year. Also, an immigration lawyer in Windsor sentenced too. Even a judge who asked for sexual favors in exchange for granting citizenship. So who knows whether or not there isn't a corrupt officer somewhere in India?

The common denominator in all this is the fraudsters have personal information and prey on people who are 1. vulnerable, 2. probably don't understand/speak English/French well enough to understand when being taken advantage of, 3. come from countries where they are taught to obey/respect authority, therefore less likely to question what would be odd to others, will not make trouble, etc.

So instead of chastising them for not being a genius, they should be commended for being courageous to share their ordeal. It must be embarrassing enough for them to learn they were fooled and we could all do well to be sensitive to that.

I agree with SanoritaBella... Ppl who were fooled by such scammers are courageous enough to share this freely in a forum full of people because they think they can save other ppl by sharing this bad experience.. I think we should be supportive to them rather than saying they are fool and stuff.. They made a mistake and they learnt it the hard way and they want others to learn from their mistake and not repeat them..

I feel sorry for you guys and hats off to you for sharing this with other ppl... God bless

 

[jsm0085]

You are all correct and I have been too harsh so to anyone I've offended, I'm sorry.

But everyone needs to be more sensible (if this is the correct word to use!) before making crazy payments like these.

A quick look on the CIC website would show that no such payments are standard. A quick call to the CIC call Centre would undoubtedly result in someone saying - this is bogus! A message on this forum would result in 100 people saying do-not-pay!

CIC have never and will never ask for payments through wire transfer.

While I appreciate that people from different backgrounds may think differently, we all need to be savvy enough to protect ourselves. People are out to screw us all - and only we can prevent it.

If something seems suspicious do not proceed until you are sure about what you are doing. CIC would never penalize someone for protecting themselves - so you have nothing to worry about in being cautious.

Again, I'm sorry to those of you who this has happened too, but I hope it can be a lesson for others.

 

[krishna_05]

I agree with SenoritaBella. That is precisely what i wanted to say. If others think its only for new members here - i was googling and found this forum, joined only to share my experience. And trust me, (still not sure if it was genuine call in my case as they did not ask for money [it could be a prelude to the next call]) the amount of information that they have abt you, only u & CIC would know abt it - all visas, validity , stay durations, DOBs, employer, promotions, HR name on the employment letter - am sure anyone would be convinced its a genuine call.. and i have got nothing to do with new delhi, my app is in ottawa

 

[jsm0085]

I agree with SenoritaBella. That is precisely what i wanted to say. If others think its only for new members here - i was googling and found this forum, joined only to share my experience. And trust me, (still not sure if it was genuine call in my case as they did not ask for money [it could be a prelude to the next call]) the amount of information that they have abt you, only u & CIC would know abt it - all visas, validity , stay durations, DOBs, employer, promotions, HR name on the employment letter - am sure anyone would be convinced its a genuine call.. and i have got nothing to do with new delhi, my app is in ottawa

Have you e-mailed Ottawa to find out if the call was from them?

 

[zardoz]

Have you e-mailed Ottawa to find out if the call was from them?

You ARE kidding aren't you? If not, I'd very much like your help in moving some gold I found lying around in the desert. Your cut will be 45% once all the modalities are completed.