Extend TRV and multiple entry visa?

[sajjad365]

Folks, my wife and I need clarification on the following subject matter.

I am a Canadian citizen and will be sponsoring my wife via Outland soon (we're just waiting on FBI fingerprints).

She is a Kenyan citizen who resided in USA for six years on a study permit. Her USA permit expired in July 2014 so she could no longer stay in USA. She held a multiple entry visa to Canada which expired in July 2014 as well. We married in June 2014 (in Canada) and applied for an extension (TRV) from within Canada.

She was granted a TRV in August 2014 which will expire next month (February 2015). We are going to apply for an extension [for her TRV] once again so she can reside with me until her Outland application is processed (via the Nairobi office).

On her current extension visa (TRV) obtained in August 2014, it states at the bottom: THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY.

Problem statement: She wants to be able to travel outside of Canada (primarily USA or vacation to Paris ) for a few weeks and re-enter Canada.

Yes, we are aware that she will need to apply for a visitor visa to whichever country she visits (USA, France, etc).

Since we have to apply for an extension again, very soon, we are confused as to the following:

• Since a TRV extension does not permit multiple re-entry, what are our options? Do we need to apply for a TRV extension as well as a multiple re-entry visa?
• If we need to apply for two visas, do we apply for the multiple re-entry visa from within Canada or outside (via Nairobi, Kenya)? It is our understanding that if another, multiple re-entry visa is required, we must file it via Nairobi.

If you leave Canada, your TRV is null and void. True or False?

I had read that if you leave Canada, your TRV is void and you will have to file another TRV after re-entry, unless you traveled to USA only when you left and re-enter Canada.

How long you can stay in Canada upon entry as a visitor depends on "the officer will stamp your passport or let you know how long you can stay in Canada. The period is usually six months." So, even if you have a valid multiple entry visa, let's assume for five years, if you want to stay past the time the "officer" allows you to stay then you need to file a TRV extension from within Canada. Is my interpretation accurate?


Thank you for your responses!

 

[PMM]

Hi

Folks, my wife and I need clarification on the following subject matter.

I am a Canadian citizen and will be sponsoring my wife via Outland soon (we're just waiting on FBI fingerprints).

She is a Kenyan citizen who resided in USA for six years on a study permit. Her USA permit expired in July 2014 so she could no longer stay in USA. She held a multiple entry visa to Canada which expired in July 2014 as well. We married in June 2014 (in Canada) and applied for an extension (TRV) from within Canada.

She was granted a TRV in August 2014 which will expire next month (February 2015). We are going to apply for an extension [for her TRV] once again so she can reside with me until her Outland application is processed (via the Nairobi office).

On her current extension visa (TRV) obtained in August 2014, it states at the bottom: THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY.

Problem statement: She wants to be able to travel outside of Canada (primarily USA or vacation to Paris ) for a few weeks and re-enter Canada.

Yes, we are aware that she will need to apply for a visitor visa to whichever country she visits (USA, France, etc).

Since we have to apply for an extension again, very soon, we are confused as to the following:

• Since a TRV extension does not permit multiple re-entry, what are our options? Do we need to apply for a TRV extension as well as a multiple re-entry visa?
• If we need to apply for two visas, do we apply for the multiple re-entry visa from within Canada or outside (via Nairobi, Kenya)? It is our understanding that if another, multiple re-entry visa is required, we must file it via Nairobi.

If you leave Canada, your TRV is null and void. True or False?

I had read that if you leave Canada, your TRV is void and you will have to file another TRV after re-entry, unless you traveled to USA only when you left and re-enter Canada.

How long you can stay in Canada upon entry as a visitor depends on "the officer will stamp your passport or let you know how long you can stay in Canada. The period is usually six months." So, even if you have a valid multiple entry visa, let's assume for five years, if you want to stay past the time the "officer" allows you to stay then you need to file a TRV extension from within Canada. Is my interpretation accurate?


Thank you for your responses!

1. I think that you are confusing TRVs with a visitor record.
2. It would appear that she was issued a visitor record, not a TRV that expires in Feb/15.
3. To re-enter Canada she would have to apply for a TRV at overseas office. Married to a Canadian she might find it difficult to get one, as the overseas office may feel that her intention is to remain permanently rather than just visit.
4. The visitor extension she can apply to Vegreville, note that once she leaves Canada, her visitor permit is no longer valid.

 

[sajjad365]

1. I think that you are confusing TRVs with a visitor record.
2. It would appear that she was issued a visitor record, not a TRV that expires in Feb/15.
3. To re-enter Canada she would have to apply for a TRV at overseas office. Married to a Canadian she might find it difficult to get one, as the overseas office may feel that her intention is to remain permanently rather than just visit.
4. The visitor extension she can apply to Vegreville, note that once she leaves Canada, her visitor permit is no longer valid.

PMM, thank you. Could you please elaborate? What is the difference between a visitor record and a TRV? We had applied for a TRV extension to Vegreville, AB so I presume that is what we received; a TRV.

I guess I'll have to deliver the sad news to my wife that she cannot leave Canada until her PR is processed. I hope CIC extends her TRV so she can at least reside with me in Canada as opposed to returning back to Kenya. :-X

 

[Jalex23]

PMM, thank you. Could you please elaborate? What is the difference between a visitor record and a TRV? We had applied for a TRV extension to Vegreville, AB so I presume that is what we received; a TRV.

I think you are now confusing a TRV, a "visitor record" and a "visitor status".

A TRV is a sticker in your passport.
A Visitor Record is a document you get when entering Canada and it grants you a visitor status until it expires.
A "visitor status" is the legal status is Canada.

A TRV can't be extended. So no, you didn't get a TRV.


** Please google the terms to get a more detailed explanation.

 

[sajjad365]

PMM, Jalex23, I have a better understanding now.

We received a "Visitor Record", which was issued in August 2014 and expires February 2015. In the Remarks, it says: "TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS MAINTAINED AS PER R183(6)."

And furthermore it says, as mentioned above, "THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY". I suppose, she cannot leave and enter at will. :-[

So, on the "Application to change conditions, extend my stay or remain in Canada as a visitor or temporary resident permit holder", it asks:

3) I am applying for one of the following:
* Extension of my temporary resident status
* Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor
* Initial temporary resident permit or extension of temporary resident


.....she would only select "Extension of my temporary resident status". Does "Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor" apply to her? WTH does that even mean???

Thanks again.

 

[Jalex23]

PMM, Jalex23, I have a better understanding now.

We received a "Visitor Record", which was issued in August 2014 and expires February 2015. In the Remarks, it says: "TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS MAINTAINED AS PER R183(6)."

And furthermore it says, as mentioned above, "THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY". I suppose, she cannot leave and enter at will. :-[

So, on the "Application to change conditions, extend my stay or remain in Canada as a visitor or temporary resident permit holder", it asks:

3) I am applying for one of the following:
* Extension of my temporary resident status
* Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor
* Initial temporary resident permit or extension of temporary resident


.....she would only select "Extension of my temporary resident status". Does "Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor" apply to her? WTH does that even mean???

Thanks again.

Usually if you don't know what something means it does not apply to you. But before assuming first Google what is a "restoration of status".

You don't qualify for restoration.

The only option available is extension of temporary resident status.

 

[kriv]

PMM, Jalex23, I have a better understanding now.

We received a "Visitor Record", which was issued in August 2014 and expires February 2015. In the Remarks, it says: "TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS MAINTAINED AS PER R183(6)."

And furthermore it says, as mentioned above, "THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY". I suppose, she cannot leave and enter at will. :-[

So, on the "Application to change conditions, extend my stay or remain in Canada as a visitor or temporary resident permit holder", it asks:

3) I am applying for one of the following:
* Extension of my temporary resident status
* Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor
* Initial temporary resident permit or extension of temporary resident


.....she would only select "Extension of my temporary resident status". Does "Restoration of temporary resident status as a visitor" apply to her? WTH does that even mean???

Thanks again.

This is the difference between "TRV" , "visitor record" and "restoration of status"

TRV:
Temporary resident visa (trv) is an endorsement/sticker on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to travel to canada. if you have a TRV on your passport it means you can travel to canada and request/seek entry to canada from CBSA (canadian border service agents or immigration in layman language) at the airport or border. Multiple entry TRV means you can travel to canada and request for entry in canada multiple times during the validity of the TRV.
So technically a TRV only authorize you to travel towards canada. if you have no TRV no commercial airline will let you get aboard and travel.
Now when you travel to canada through land, air etc you first have to present your passport (holding the TRV in it) to the immigration officer (This is seeking/requesting to enter into canada). the immigration officer will either refuse your request or allow you to enter. The immigration officer allow you to enter into canada by STAMPING your passport (THIS IS THE POINT WHERE YOU GET A VISITOR STATUS). The stamp is basically the proof of your status as a visitor in canada. the stamp has an entry date and may also have an expiry date.
If the stamp has no expiry date then it is considered valid for the next 6 months ONLY FOR THIS TRIP. So now the person is authorized to stay in canada for the next 6 months as a visitor. The person can choose to leave canada anytime within the 6 months period. when the person leaves canada his TRIP is over and he need to again seek/request entry to return back to canada. (single Entry visa are for a single TRIP and multiple entry visa can be used for multiple trips). I hope by now you have a clear understanding about TRV, Single and Multiple entry visas.

Extension to stay or Visitor Record:
Once you are inside canada as a visitor (means you have gone all through mentioned above) you are only allowed to stay in canada for 6 months (or till the expiry date mentioned on your stamp). Lets say that after 5 months you have a need to stay more than 6 months (the authorized time allowed). the reason to stay more can be anything genuine (your tour is not complete yet, you want to spend more time with friends, spouse or parents, family issues.etc etc...literally anything which sounds a genuine reason). SO what todo? how can you stay in canada legally? the solution to such problems and needs is to apply for an extension to stay in canada.
Extension to Stay In Canada can only be applied if you are already in canada and you submit an application using online or paper method at least 30 days before your current status is due to expire. On approval cic MAIL you a document at your home address which is called a "VISITOR RECORD".
a visitor record is the document which maintains your status in canada (i.e you can remain as a visitor during this TRIP to canada and you are allowed to stay longer than 6 months till the expiry date of the visitor record). you also see the words "TEMPORARY RESIDENT STATUS MAINTAINED AS PER R183(6)." on the visitor record.
In Simple words Extension to Stay or visitor record is the extension of your allowed time to stay in canada which was 6 months previously (Due to the stamp in your passport). you can apply for another extension when your visitor record is near to expire again (so it help you to have/maintain a legal status through out your trip).
You can leave canada anytime you want (the same way a tourist enters into canada with a 6 month authorization and choose to leave after few days). Once you leave canada your TRIP is over and to come back again you need to request a new entry from the immigration officer at he airport or border. (if you have multiple entry visa you can request entry otherwise you need a new TRV). ON leaving canada as your TRIP ENDS and your visitor record also expires automatically.(thats why CIC writes "THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE RE-ENTRY"). so you cannot claim that you are allowed to enter on the basis of this document. to enter again you must have a valid TRV and only the immigration officer is the authority to allow you to enter in canada.
I hope by now you have clearly understood what is TRV and what is a visitor record.

Restoration of status as a visitor:
It is an application to help those who for some reasons get out of status. as you know when a person enters into canada he is allowed to stay for 6 months. after 6 months he will be staying illegal (assume for some reasons he has not/was not able to apply for extension or any other legal status). What will he do? So to help such cases in which people having NO status CIC allow them to RESTORE/REINSTATE their legal status. i hope you now also understand what "Restoration of temporary Status" means .

I have tried to explain all of the above in a simple manner so that you and others who are reading may understand it clearly and not get confused. my reason to be here is to help others and i have seen many getting into bigger problems due to lack of understanding of these things which may be very simple for some but still very confusing for others.

Hope it helps

 

[sajjad365]

kriv, you nailed it!

 

[o6ocpaka]

Kriv that is very informative, I'd like to ask a question though that I had about this.

Let's say there is an extended visitor record for a U.S. citizen until December 31st 2015. Now let's say the person leaves Canada to visit another country for a few weeks on February 1st 2015, the person then comes back on February 20th 2015 and enters Canada using the U.S. passport and gets another 6 month stamp.
Now, will that extended visitor record still work until December 31st 2015 or it becomes useless and the person needs to leave in August (6 months) or apply for another extension later on?
I believe there were some kind of exceptions listed to which countries you could go to and still keep the original extended visitor record as well?

 

[Ma.]

I think you are now confusing a TRV, a "visitor record" and a "visitor status".

A TRV is a sticker in your passport.
A Visitor Record is a document you get when entering Canada and it grants you a visitor status until it expires.
A "visitor status" is the legal status is Canada.

A TRV can't be extended. So no, you didn't get a TRV.



Thanks for the info. I just need for more clarification. I had that sticker stamped in my passport which will end on dec. 2016. in entered canada nov 2014. when should I exit canada and when can i can re-enter canada? Please help me. I'm a bit confused.


** Please google the terms to get a more detailed explanation.

 

[kriv]

Thanks for the info. I just need for more clarification. I had that sticker stamped in my passport which will end on dec. 2016. in entered canada nov 2014. when should I exit canada and when can i can re-enter canada? Please help me. I'm a bit confused.

The sticker affixed in your passport is the visa which is valid till Dec 2016. if it is a multiple visa then it means you can travel to Canada multiple times till dec 2016 ( its not that you are allowed to stay in Canada till dec 2016). time allowed to stay in canada depends on the STAMP the immigration officer imprint on your passport at the airport.

Now when you entered canada on November 2014 the immigration officer must have Stamped your passport. The stamp has an entry date on it (the day you have entered in canada i.e xx.nov.2014) if the stamp has no expiry date (usually written by hand) then you are allowed to stay in canada for the next 6 months( in your case it will be MAY 2015)

see sample stamps at this links http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/inFORMation/applications/guides/images/stamps.gif

Now about your question that When can you exit canada:
-you can exit canada anytime before may 2015. you are only legally allowed to stay in canada till May 2015.
- if you want to stay longer than May 2015 for any reason you have to apply for an "extension to stay" at least 30 days before MAY 2015.
- if you exit canada anytime before May 2015 and you have reasons to come back again then you can re-enter into canada only if you have a valid multiple entry visa (to let you enter into canada depends on the immigration officer at the airport). so technically if you have multiple entry visa till dec 2016 you can exit and enter into canada multiple times but each of your trip will have an allowed period of 6 months to stay in canada.

hope it helps

 

[nick.rwth]

Ok, I also have Visitors record and US B1/B2 visa,

Can I travel to US and then from US to Mexico. just couple of days, than back to us and back to Canada (we plan to visit dentist in Mexico)

 

[Jalex23]

Ok, I also have Visitors record and US B1/B2 visa,

Can I travel to US and then from US to Mexico. just couple of days, than back to us and back to Canada (we plan to visit dentist in Mexico)

When you exit the USA your visitor record will be voided. When you try to come back to Canada you will be assessed by the CBSA officer which will determine if you are allowed, refused, etc.

 

[Moayad Diab]

When I'm filling the application I just confused by some questions such as :

Temporary Resident Visa Application Questions :

Personal Details
Languages
D) have you taken a test from a designated agency to assess your proficiency in English
Yes .
Do I need proof that by submit a copy of my IELTS repot ??

Details of visit to Canada
1. a) purpose of my visit
The list options is:
Business
Tourism
Short-term studies
Returning student
Returning worker
Super visa
Family visit
Other

No option for conference
If I choose other then at
b) other
Indicate a details: conference

4. Names of persons you will visit in canada
I don't have any person in canada can I write N/A ??


Employment
From 2012 to present
Or to end date of my contractor ( the contract duration is actually 2 years renewable )
As Drilling Engineer
No previous occupations can I write N/A ,???


2/ Travel History Information Form:
Please check this link because i checked the application kit for visa office at Cairo and i found that visa office require this form but there is no option for print the form

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/lebanon-liban/visas/52_2.aspx?lang=eng

What can I do in this case ??



I hope really to give me helpful answers

Thank you

Best regards