+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

Expression Of Interest for 45 Draw**** Need help!

jawadchoudary

Star Member
Jun 4, 2015
126
2
Hi Everyone,

I got invitation today and while I was filling the application forms , I come across couple of things that I need advise on:

1: I have a baby who is born after I applied for express entry, but she is Canadian by birth. We still don't have passport for her, as her birth certificate is still in process. What should i upload in the Proof of travel document for her in the application, can i attach receipts for birth certificate and her healthcard and write a letter of explanation that we don't have these documents available for now? I don't want to wait one month for her documents to come, All of my other documents are already to go.

2: I have a permanent full time job in Canada with one year experience, and i come under CEC category in express entry. But my document check list is asking me for proof of finical support. Do i still need to show funds , even if i have a full time job in Canada? Or can i just attach my pay stubs in that section, as i donot have much to show in my account.
I would really appreciate if someone answer these plz!
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
How is she Canadian?

I thought a child could only be born Canadian if one or both parents are PR? They don't get Canadian status if parents are just students or on a work permit.
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Having a baby in another country doesn't make them a citizen of that country.
 

epressentry

Star Member
Sep 11, 2016
153
5
Category........
Visa Office......
Unknown
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 20th 2016
Nomination.....
N/A
Med's Done....
Upfront
Not sure about the first one.

For CEC you don't have to show POF. Just provide your bank statements and explain in a LOE that you are not showing minimum funds as you're classified under CEC. It should be fine.
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Seriously, if you were just on a work permit and had a baby and they get Canadian citizenship then I could have done that.

I really don't think that is a thing.
 

Aal_

Hero Member
Feb 28, 2016
962
89
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
16-03-2017
AOR Received.
17-03-2017
Med's Done....
23-02-2017 / Passed: 12-07-2017
Passport Req..
11-09-2018
kryt0n said:
Seriously, if you were just on a work permit and had a baby and they get Canadian citizenship then I could have done that.

I really don't think that is a thing.
are you kidding me? if you trip and fall into canada for 2 mins and have a baby there, it will be a canadian citizen!
 

Aal_

Hero Member
Feb 28, 2016
962
89
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
16-03-2017
AOR Received.
17-03-2017
Med's Done....
23-02-2017 / Passed: 12-07-2017
Passport Req..
11-09-2018
well except if you are a foreign diplomat or working in something like embassies etc ...
 

jawadchoudary

Star Member
Jun 4, 2015
126
2
Aal_ said:
are you kidding me? if you trip and fall into canada for 2 mins and have a baby there, it will be a canadian citizen!
That's exactly right, even if you are entered Canada illegally and you have a child born in Canada. The child will be Canadian citizen. Couple of my friends having same status as me had their kids born in Canada and now they have Canadian passport.
Thank you for replying to my second question though, I am seriously thinking to do the same.

Still waiting for someone to give me advise on first question..!
 

Nitinj.36

Star Member
Mar 5, 2015
102
9
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
For your first question. You don't need include your baby in your application.
You just need mention as a unaccompanied kid as he/she is already a Canadian citizen.
You can upload birth certificate or its receipt. They should accept it.



jawadchoudary said:
That's exactly right, even if you are entered Canada illegally and you have a child born in Canada. The child will be Canadian citizen. Couple of my friends having same status as me had their kids born in Canada and now they have Canadian passport.
Thank you for replying to my second question though, I am seriously thinking to do the same.

Still waiting for someone to give me advise on first question..!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,327
23,137
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
kryt0n said:
Seriously, if you were just on a work permit and had a baby and they get Canadian citizenship then I could have done that.

I really don't think that is a thing.
Sounds like you haven't done much research.

Born in Canada = Canadian citizen (unless your parents are diplomats).
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,327
23,137
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
kryt0n said:
Well I am genuinely suprised. Seems USA and Canada are the only countries to offer this.

Although I really wasn't ready to have a kid when I was there, I was almost desperate enough to do so.
http://www.cicnews.com/2014/08/government-canada-citizenship-birth-provision-083672.html

Wow... Ugh
You do understand that having a Canadian citizen baby gives you absolutely no immigration benefits - yes? Sure, your child is a citizen. But this doesn't make you a citizen or a even PR - and it certainly doesn't give you the right to stay in Canada. The only one with any benefits is your child.
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
scylla said:
You do understand that having a Canadian citizen baby gives you absolutely no immigration benefits - yes? Sure, your child is a citizen. But this doesn't make you a citizen or a even PR - and it certainly doesn't give you the right to stay in Canada. The only one with any benefits is your child.

I know that. Once the child is 18 though they can sponsor the parents though.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,327
23,137
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
kryt0n said:
I know that. Once the child is 18 though they can sponsor the parents though.
Not quite that simple.

Yes - they need to be 18. They must also be living in Canada. Additionally, they must be making sufficient income to meet the low income cut off for sponsoring their parents. Last but not least, they must demonstrate that they've met the low income requirement through a job in Canada for the three years before they apply and must prove this through providing Canadian tax returns for these three years. Practically speaking, it's going to be impossible for an 18 year old to apply since this means they would have to have worked and made enough income when they were 14, 15 and 16 years old (the tax return for when they were 17 won't be ready in time to apply).
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
scylla said:
Not quite that simple.

Yes - they need to be 18. They must also be living in Canada. Additionally, they must be making sufficient income to meet the low income cut off for sponsoring their parents. Last but not least, they must demonstrate that they've met the low income requirement through a job in Canada for the three years before they apply and must prove this through providing Canadian tax returns for these three years. Practically speaking, it's going to be impossible for an 18 year old to apply since this means they would have to have worked and made enough income when they were 14, 15 and 16 years old (the tax return for when they were 17 won't be ready in time to apply).

Dude, I'm not planning on having a kid there just in the hopes of in 18 years I can get PR. I am just shocked that having a kid in Canada automatically gets them citizenship, regardless of where their parents are from.

In honesty though I may go over there and have my child one day on holiday, at least my kid will get an easier immigration ride in the future.