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TanakaM

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Hi evaluated both my credentials together and received one report. On the summery it is written that i have equivalent to bachelor degree in Cananda. On the report, i have two assessments. 1st assessment says i have secondary school diploma 2 years. 2nd
assessment says i have a bachelor degree 4 years.

I believe ECA summery only points out to the highest qualification one has acquired.

I have entered my details in the CIC but have not submitted the profile because i have not received the IELTS score card officially.
While entering my information under study and languages, i have entered two rows. For bachelor degree i have mentioned the duration of 3 years and selected bachelor degree under Level of Education option and for my diploma, i have selected the option secondary diploma.
The ECA Summary is dependent on the organization's overall assessment, when considering both credentials together. I believe I saw on this forum where someone had a Bachelor's assessed as a 1 or 2-year Diploma, and a Master's assessed as a 3-year Bachelor's, and the overall summary was a 4-year Bachelor's.

But if your ECA Summary says Bachelor's Degree, you should be good to go. Just list the 1st credential as equivalent to secondary school diploma, and your 2nd credential as equivalent to Bachelor's Degree, and your Express Entry profile, barring any glitches, should calculate your points correctly.
Hi,

Only post-secondary education is required, so only enter your Bachelors degree. Your secondary school diploma is irrelevant.

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I believe so - as long as you indicate the levels as specifically outlined by the ECA report, the system should automatically calculate the correct score for you...

So, you stated that your ECA Report stated "Secondary School Diploma and diploma 2 years". (Is this for both credentials or just one?). If it's for both, you would list 'Secondary diploma (high school graduation)' for one credential, and 'Two-year program at a university, college, trade or technical school, or other institute' for the other.

There has been some debate about how to represent the information in your EE Profile if your assessment is actually 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees....' - the question being whether to put the actual assessment for EACH credential, or whether to list 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees...' for the second credential, because some people have reported that the system calculated Education Level 5, rather than Education Level 6, when they entered, say, 'Bachelor's Degree...' for one, and 'Two-year program..." for the second. But this particular issue is only relevant if the ECA report has provided an assessment of 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees. One must be for a program of three or more years'

Final question though - did you assess your 2 credentials TOGETHER, or separately? If you did it TOGETHER and received one report for both, and your ECA Report summary DIDN'T state 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees. One must be for a program of three or more years', then you can be reasonably certain that you are, unfortunately :( , not eligible for 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees...'

If you assessed them separately though, and have the money and time to spend, you might want to consider having them evaluated together...I think it sometimes provides a different final result, when the credentials are assessed together...
This is inaccurate.
Firstly, two or more certificates, diplomas or degrees..... is in reference to post secondary education, not secondary school diplomas.
Secondly, it does not matter whether your credentials have been assessed together or not. The system will automatically give you points for the post secondary credentials you have. They may even have been assessed by two different organisations.

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Is there a limit on number of times you can attempt IELTS. I was told during visa interview they check number of attempts and can reject if it's too many.
Hi,

No, there isn't. I sat thrice but some sit many more times. It doesn't matter at all.

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This is inaccurate.
Firstly, two or more certificates, diplomas or degrees..... is in reference to post secondary education, not secondary school diplomas.
Secondly, it does not matter whether your credentials have been assessed together or not. The system will automatically give you points for the post secondary credentials you have. They may even have been assessed by two different organisations.

regards
Hi Tanaka,
You may need to visit some of the posts in the conversation prior to that one, to get some context :) We had already established that the 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, degrees..." was only in reference to post secondary credentials.

Secondly, there have been reports of people obtaining different 'summaries' when they get their credentials assessed individually versus getting them assessed together (e.g. someone had a 1 or 2-year Bachelor's Degree assessed individually as a 2-year Diploma (post-secondary), and a Master's Degree assessed individually as a 3-year- Bachelor's Degree, but then when the two were assessed together, the summary report stated that they were both equivalent to a '4-year Bachelor's Degree'.

There have also been reports on this forum from people who legitimately fall into that "Two or more certificates, diploma, degrees..." bucket, that the system didn't give them the points that were due to them when they entered the individual assessment for each report. That's why I said 'there's debate'. The recommendation is generally to enter the individual assessment for each credential first and then, if the system isn't awarding you the correct points, to try going back in and changing the 2nd credential's assessment to ''Two or more certificates, diploma, degrees..." to see if the system will award the right points then...
 

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Hi Tanaka,
You may need to visit some of the posts in the conversation prior to that one, to get some context :) We had already established that the 'Two or more certificates, diplomas, degrees..." was only in reference to post secondary credentials.

Secondly, there have been reports of people obtaining different 'summaries' when they get their credentials assessed individually versus getting them assessed together (e.g. someone had a 1 or 2-year Bachelor's Degree assessed individually as a 2-year Diploma (post-secondary), and a Master's Degree assessed individually as a 3-year- Bachelor's Degree, but then when the two were assessed together, the summary report stated that they were both equivalent to a '4-year Bachelor's Degree'.

There have also been reports on this forum from people who legitimately fall into that "Two or more certificates, diploma, degrees..." bucket, that the system didn't give them the points that were due to them when they entered the individual assessment for each report. That's why I said 'there's debate'. The recommendation is generally to enter the individual assessment for each credential first and then, if the system isn't awarding you the correct points, to try going back in and changing the 2nd credential's assessment to ''Two or more certificates, diploma, degrees..." to see if the system will award the right points then...
Hi how are you?

Sorry, I noticed that after I had posted.

However, I am not sure about the accuracy of those reports or claims. As far as I know the system is accurate.
I don't recall the options you get, but I don't think there is an option that says "two or more certificates...." It simply asks what the individual credential is and the gives posts based only all the entries you have.

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Hi how are you?

Sorry, I noticed that after I had posted.

However, I am not sure about the accuracy of those reports or claims. As far as I know the system is accurate.
I don't recall the options you get, but I don't think there is an option that says "two or more certificates...." It simply asks what the individual credential is and the gives posts based only all the entries you have.

regards
I'm good (waiting impatiently for PPR :D). How are you?

To be fair, I'm not sure about the 'system' part of it either, as I didn't fall into that 'Education Level' bucket, and didn't have to deal with that issue (and already sent off my APR so can't go back in now to check what the options are). My recommendation was just based on reports other persons on the forum have given, and the recommendations they gave each other to resolve the problem. I would think the best option would definitely be to put the actual assessment for each credential and for the system to calculate everything correctly, but if the system is in fact glitching (which it has sadly been known to do), it would be unfortunate for an applicant to miss out on those additional 8 points if they were actually due to them...
 
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I'm good (waiting impatiently for PPR :D). How are you?

To be fair, I'm not sure about the 'system' part of it either, as I didn't fall into that 'Education Level' bucket, and didn't have to deal with that issue (and already sent off my APR so can't go back in now to check what the options are). My recommendation was just based on reports other persons on the forum have given, and the recommendations they gave each other to resolve the problem. I would think the best option would definitely be to put the actual assessment for each credential and for the system to calculate everything correctly, but if the system is in fact glitching (which it has sadly been known to do), it would be unfortunate for an applicant to miss out on those additional 8 points if they were actually due to them...
I'm doing well. It is indeed a patience game but we will get therein the end.

As long as they enter accurate information they will be fine.

Enjoy your weekend.
 
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hey guys. My AOR is june 10 and I have been on IP1 since july 7. I got my gcms note on september 28 and i noticed my criminality check hadn't been done. Am in the London VO whatsapp chat group and everyone there is telling me that is really weird and that my criminality should have been done in CIO. Every other person in my chat group who posted snippets of the gcms note showed that their criminality was done at CIO yet mine is not the case. Most people in my AOR are either in NA or IP2 status and yet am still in IP1. It really baffles me. My due date was October 6 and till today i haven't seen any updates.

Just wanted to find out if anyone is in a similar place as me or if anyone has had their they criminality done in their VO rather than CIO or better yet just help make sense of my situation. Thanks
please can someone kindly help me with my question above?
 

deedee24

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Hi All,

I have a query regarding the work history. I need to mention the work experience with a company in the same NOC. However, my designation changed 3 times due to promotions from joining till leaving. Also, I worked in different countries for client projects while I was still an active employee of my base country. (I think this is a very common scenario while working with an IT consulting company)

Could you pls advise on my below queries-

1. Should I mention one entry in the work history section? Or Should I provide each entry for a change in work location and change in designation?
2. How should I provide the reference letters? My company has provided me one reference letter listing my last designation and roles and responsibility for the entire tenure (I worked in the same NOC). Should I get another letter from a colleague for listing all the designations and their durations and add it along with the reference received from my company?

Similar questions have been asked earlier in this forum but I found different answers. Could someone please advise what's the right approach or share their experience if they faced a similar situation?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi All,

I have a query regarding the work history. I need to mention the work experience with a company in the same NOC. However, my designation changed 3 times due to promotions from joining till leaving. Also, I worked in different countries for client projects while I was still an active employee of my base country. (I think this is a very common scenario while working with an IT consulting company)

Could you pls advise on my below queries-

1. Should I mention one entry in the work history section? Or Should I provide each entry for a change in work location and change in designation?
2. How should I provide the reference letters? My company has provided me one reference letter listing my last designation and roles and responsibility for the entire tenure (I worked in the same NOC). Should I get another letter from a colleague for listing all the designations and their durations and add it along with the reference received from my company?

Similar questions have been asked earlier in this forum but I found different answers. Could someone please advise what's the right approach or share their experience if they faced a similar situation?

Thanks in advance.
Hi,

I would just put 1 entry since your employer has combined it all into 1. No need for other documents.

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Hi All,

I have a query regarding the work history. I need to mention the work experience with a company in the same NOC. However, my designation changed 3 times due to promotions from joining till leaving. Also, I worked in different countries for client projects while I was still an active employee of my base country. (I think this is a very common scenario while working with an IT consulting company)

Could you pls advise on my below queries-

1. Should I mention one entry in the work history section? Or Should I provide each entry for a change in work location and change in designation?
2. How should I provide the reference letters? My company has provided me one reference letter listing my last designation and roles and responsibility for the entire tenure (I worked in the same NOC). Should I get another letter from a colleague for listing all the designations and their durations and add it along with the reference received from my company?

Similar questions have been asked earlier in this forum but I found different answers. Could someone please advise what's the right approach or share their experience if they faced a similar situation?

Thanks in advance.
I can try to guide you based on my understanding and what I did for my own application:

1. I only listed one entry for each NOC Code I was claiming (2 entries total - the 1st entry highlighting 2 designations under 1 NOC, and a 2nd entry highlighting a 3rd designation with a different company under a 2nd NOC, BUT I think you can also provide an entry for each designation if you want, just as long as the timeframes don't overlap, which might cause confusion. This might be the best route especially if each of your entries will have a different location. If you go with this 2nd route, you'll have to upload evidence (i.e. a reference letter) for each entry, but I think you can just upload the same reference letter over and over again (provided you get it corrected as outlined in my next answer).

2. If you choose to have multiple entries for each designation and/or location, your company can provide 1 reference letter BUT the letter should really highlight ALL designations, effective dates for each designation, ending salary for each designation (since your salary might change repeatedly during the course of one designation), and job duties/responsibilities for each designation, even if they all fall under one NOC Code. This is especially necessary if you will be including each of the designations in your application (if only your last designation is mentioned, then it means the reference letter will only serve as proof for that last designation, and your other listed designations will not have evidentiary support. (My Company does this by providing one letter with a table breaking down all the designations and the relevant information).

Can you get your Company to revise the letter before asking your colleague to assist you? If you draft it for them, they might be more open to doing it for you, since it won't mean extra work for them (they would just need to verify the info you provide then copy and paste it unto a letterhead and sign it)... If the Company won't redo the letter for you though, get your colleague to sign the proper letter detailing ALL of your designation (on blank paper, not Company letterhead) and then get it notarized.
 
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Michael.ko

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Hi guys,
Please can someone add me to any group that will be of help.

I need to be updated and be proactive on any provincial nominations as they come. I have my master degree in business administration. I really do not know the NOC or occupation to apply for as I have 7 years working experience in an insurance company as underwriter.
Can I also apply for financial adviser in any of the province that may come later..Please i need your advice and guide and also want to know the contents of my employment letter from HR because I must be prepared.

Kind regards.
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