Explanation about NOC 0433

[Naturgrl]

no I was a regular soldier not officer for 2 years, what about NOC 4313 ???

If your duties in your reference letter are more or less the same then yes.

 

[LL347]

The immigration applications have nothing to do with the NOC you select. As long as you meet the program criteria, under which you apply and your job duties substantially match the job duties of the NOC selected.

I have been told and understand the title is not important but the duties as you say. I am in the same position as the original poster with experience in NOC 0433 outside Canada. This means I qualify for the Federal Skilled Worker Program however it also says that experience must be in my primary occupation ie. the NOC I plan to work as once I'm in Canada which is impossible for this NOC. Is there any way around this?

I basically would like to use my experience as a Commissioned Officer to qualify but work as something else? Thanks!

 

[legalfalcon]

I have been told and understand the title is not important but the duties as you say. I am in the same position as the original poster with experience in NOC 0433 outside Canada. This means I qualify for the Federal Skilled Worker Program however it also says that experience must be in my primary occupation ie. the NOC I plan to work as once I'm in Canada which is impossible for this NOC. Is there any way around this?

I basically would like to use my experience as a Commissioned Officer to qualify but work as something else? Thanks!

It no where says the NOC you plan to work after you are in Canada.

All the requirements says is:

Minimum work experience requirement
The applicant must have accumulated at least one year of continuous full-time (or the equivalent in part-time) paid work experience in the occupation identified in their application for permanent residence as their primary occupation. In calculating this period of work experience, the occupation must be listed in skill type 0 (Managerial occupations), skill level A (Professional occupations) or skill level B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the National Occupational Classification (NOC) 2016 [R75(2)(a)].
The applicant’s skilled work experience must also

• have occurred within the ten years preceding the date of their application for permanent residence; and
• not be in an occupation that has been designated as a restricted occupation.

Note: At the time of publication, no occupations were designated as restricted.
In addition, during that period of employment, the applicant must have

• performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(b)]; and
• performed a substantial number of the main duties, including all of the essential duties, of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(c)].

Note: The applicant does not need to demonstrate that they meet the “employment requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description.

 

[LL347]

It no where says the NOC you plan to work after you are in Canada.

All the requirements says is:

Minimum work experience requirement
The applicant must have accumulated at least one year of continuous full-time (or the equivalent in part-time) paid work experience in the occupation identified in their application for permanent residence as their primary occupation. In calculating this period of work experience, the occupation must be listed in skill type 0 (Managerial occupations), skill level A (Professional occupations) or skill level B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the National Occupational Classification (NOC) 2016 [R75(2)(a)].
The applicant’s skilled work experience must also

• have occurred within the ten years preceding the date of their application for permanent residence; and
• not be in an occupation that has been designated as a restricted occupation.

Note: At the time of publication, no occupations were designated as restricted.
In addition, during that period of employment, the applicant must have

• performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(b)]; and
• performed a substantial number of the main duties, including all of the essential duties, of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(c)].

Note: The applicant does not need to demonstrate that they meet the “employment requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description.

Okay I had read this wording so wasn't sure, but that's good if you're correct:
Your skilled work experience must be

• in the same type of job (have the same NOC) as the job you want to use for your immigration application (called your primary occupation)

I also have a year of Canadian work experience within the last 10 years, but in a completely different NOC (5254), would I be able to claim points for this as well?

 

[legalfalcon]

Okay I had read this wording so wasn't sure, but that's good if you're correct:
Your skilled work experience must be

• in the same type of job (have the same NOC) as the job you want to use for your immigration application (called your primary occupation)

I also have a year of Canadian work experience within the last 10 years, but in a completely different NOC (5254), would I be able to claim points for this as well?

You can claim points for any work experience as long as you you have 1 year of work experience in your primary NOC. For other years, you can mix and match NOC.

 

[imei2012]

Canada classifies various jobs and occupations as per the NOC. Every occupation is given a number. When an applicant files his application he is supposed to write the NOC for the work that is closest to his occupation is the country of origin. See it from this perspective, occupations that are regulated require a Canadian authority to grant a license before that occupation can be practiced in Canada, but an applicant will write the NOC which closely corresponds to his current occupation eg. doctors, lawyers, nurses etc.

For further clarification, read the description under the NOC. If you perform the same functions, that is your NOC which you should mention in the application form. The NOC is just a way for CIC to gather and collect information on what skills new immigrants are getting, not necessarily that they will practice in the same occupation after they immigrate. The NOC also helps the provinces in their nomination process as they can check which NOC is in demand in their respective province and which ones to nominate.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for this great insight, any soldier contemplating immigration grapples with understanding noc 4313 and 0433

 

[Manning9876]

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