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Expired PR Card

Yargu

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Oct 14, 2024
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Hi, I became a PR back in 2014, my card expired in 2019 and I haven’t been able to return due to the PR requirements to get a travel document that I don’t meet. I now have a daughter and married and I would like to return to Canada with them to live there. Is there a way they can come with me and enter Canada through the US border in a private vehicle then holding an eta and me my expired PR card?
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Hi, I became a PR back in 2014, my card expired in 2019 and I haven’t been able to return due to the PR requirements to get a travel document that I don’t meet. I now have a daughter and married and I would like to return to Canada with them to live there. Is there a way they can come with me and enter Canada through the US border in a private vehicle then holding an eta and me my expired PR card?
You can certainly try. This may work out for you or it may not.

Note that you will not be able to sponsor them for PR until you have lived in Canada for two years straight without leaving and meet the residency requirement. They will not qualify for health care coverage during this wait and your wife will be unable to work. Without a valid PR card, you may have challenges obtaining a driver's license and health care coverage yourself. You will be able to work provided you obtained a SIN when you originally landed in Canada.

Also keep in mind that there is always some chance you may be reported at the border for failing to meet the residency requirement, which would trigger a process to revoke your PR status which you will then have to appeal.

So short answer is that you can try but this is not guaranteed to work.
 
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Yargu

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Oct 14, 2024
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What if I decided to give up my PR status and get an eta instead? Can I reapply later again? But the three of us this time?
 

Copingwithlife

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Jul 29, 2018
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What if I decided to give up my PR status and get an eta instead? Can I reapply later again? But the three of us this time?
Reapply for what ? Just because you qualified for PR 10 years ago doesn’t mean you’ll qualify again
You can reapply, doesn’t mean you’ll qualify

The bare to qualify has gotten harder than it was 10 years ago

ETA doesn’t let you live in Canada
 

Yargu

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Oct 14, 2024
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Yeah I meant reapply for a PR, and I guess I will only be able to visit for now. Can I work while waiting the two year period? And can my little baby stay with meanwhile so we can sponsor her dad after?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,362
21,793
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Yeah I meant reapply for a PR, and I guess I will only be able to visit for now. Can I work while waiting the two year period? And can my little baby stay with meanwhile so we can sponsor her dad after?
You can only get an eTA if you renounce your PR status. Once you renounce your PR status, it is gone and you would have to qualify and reapply from scratch through an economic immigration program like Express Entry.

If you do not renounce your PR status and enter Canada on your expired PR card then yes, you will be able to work during the two years as long as you got a SIN when you originally came to Canada and became a PR.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,362
21,793
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
What if I decided to give up my PR status and get an eta instead? Can I reapply later again? But the three of us this time?
Yes, you can do that. But then there is no point coming to Canada as visitors. You would apply for PR from outside of Canada through a program like Express Entry or PNP.
 

Yargu

Newbie
Oct 14, 2024
9
0
You can only get an eTA if you renounce your PR status. Once you renounce your PR status, it is gone and you would have to qualify and reapply from scratch through an economic immigration program like Express Entry.

If you do not renounce your PR status and enter Canada on your expired PR card then yes, you will be able to work during the two years as long as you got a SIN when you originally came to Canada and became a PR.
 

Yargu

Newbie
Oct 14, 2024
9
0
How about my baby and my partner, can they stay in Canada with me while waiting for my PR card? I just don’t want to separate from them
 

Copingwithlife

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Jul 29, 2018
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How about my baby and my partner, can they stay in Canada with me while waiting for my PR card? I just don’t want to separate from them
They’d enter as a visitor and you’d have to request to extend there stay as a visitors
Extension requests are not guaranteed. You are talking about extending there stay for over two years . That’s pushing the envelope
They would not have access to healthcare
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,362
21,793
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
How about my baby and my partner, can they stay in Canada with me while waiting for my PR card? I just don’t want to separate from them
They would enter as visitors and then they would have to apply for extensions every six months in order to prolong their stay in Canada. It is always up to IRCC if an extension is approved or not so it's hard for us to definitively answer your question.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,362
21,793
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Can I also apply for a PR travel document?
You can. But I don't see this working out for you given you don't meet the residency obligation. The PRTD would end up being refused and this would trigger the loss of your PR status. You could try to appeal this decision but nothing you have said so far makes it look like you have any real case for H&C. IMO your only option is to try to re-enter Canada through a land border and hope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation. There's no easy path here given the circumstances.