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shahid7in

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Hi All,

Thanks for all your answers.

I have some doubts regarding my experience in india, I have almost 7+ years of experience in both Call Center and Web development company, but
few my old companies are not exist at present, because i worked with small firms in india, most of them closed the companies but i have offer letter from them, will that enough to show i have experience?

also, i worked with ICICI One Source call center for almost 2 years as Technical Support in between, later i joined web development company, so do i have to show call center experience too? present for almost 3 years i am doing web site development business as self employed and i have Service Tax Registration and other common papers will that be fine to show proof or i need some thing else to show it...

Please help me to solve the issues.
 

21Goose

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Hi All,

Thanks for all your answers.

I have some doubts regarding my experience in india, I have almost 7+ years of experience in both Call Center and Web development company, but
few my old companies are not exist at present, because i worked with small firms in india, most of them closed the companies but i have offer letter from them, will that enough to show i have experience?

also, i worked with ICICI One Source call center for almost 2 years as Technical Support in between, later i joined web development company, so do i have to show call center experience too? present for almost 3 years i am doing web site development business as self employed and i have Service Tax Registration and other common papers will that be fine to show proof or i need some thing else to show it...

Please help me to solve the issues.
You only need to prove three years of experience. That will max out your points. If I were you, I'd choose the three years that are easiest to prove, and put that under Employment History. Everything else you've done can go under Personal History, where you don't need to provide proof, since you aren't getting any points there.

Proving history as a self-employed worker is harder than proving it as an employee. It's not impossible though - search the forum and you'll find many threads going over the best course of action for a self-employed person.
 
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shahid7in

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You only need to prove three years of experience. That will max out your points. If I were you, I'd choose the three years that are easiest to prove, and put that under Employment History. Everything else you've done can go under Personal History, where you don't need to provide proof, since you aren't getting any points there.

Proving history as a self-employed worker is harder than proving it as an employee. It's not impossible though - search the forum and you'll find many threads going over the best course of action for a self-employed person.
Hi Dear,

Thanks for your information., but why is self employed is so difficult to prove? i have client invoices, Tax Registration and Agreement with Bank Account., will still Visa officer ask more documents? I am little afraid after seeing this..,
 

21Goose

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Hi Dear,

Thanks for your information., but why is self employed is so difficult to prove? i have client invoices, Tax Registration and Agreement with Bank Account., will still Visa officer ask more documents? I am little afraid after seeing this..,
Simply because your word is not as credible as IBM's (for example). You may say that you've been working as a web-designer, but CIC will need more than your word. Your list of documents adds credibility, but you should be prepared to do your due diligence to make sure you put your best foot forward.

CIC will apply a higher standard of proof to your documents as compared to a letter on a company letterhead. My proof of employment took 1 day - I got a 2-page letter from my manager on the company letterhead, uploaded that, and I was done. I don't work for IBM, but I do work for a company that everyone in the world has heard of.

You'll need to provide a set of documents that are a little more complex. Again, don't be scared or disheartened - just be prepared to read up on what you need, and to set aside time to gather the documents you'll need. There are many people on the forum who have done this. Do your research, ask questions, and you'll be fine.
 

21Goose

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Hi Dear,

Thanks for your information., but why is self employed is so difficult to prove? i have client invoices, Tax Registration and Agreement with Bank Account., will still Visa officer ask more documents? I am little afraid after seeing this..,
Read the info here as well -> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

if the applicant is self-employed, articles of incorporation or other evidence of business ownership, evidence of self-employment income and documentation from third-party individuals indicating the service provided along with payment details (self-declared main duties or affidavits are not acceptable proof of self-employed work experience).
 

shahid7in

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One last question to all,

Well, i can show Self Employed from 2013 till date, but the company registration on my wife name and i was handling business since 2013, i dont have any Income Tax returns because of business going under loss since 3 years., so if possible i can show upto 1 year tax return.,
else any other option to prove, if i create fake experience letter also, i dont think i can show bank statement..
 

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One last question to all,

Well, i can show Self Employed from 2013 till date, but the company registration on my wife name and i was handling business since 2013, i dont have any Income Tax returns because of business going under loss since 3 years., so if possible i can show upto 1 year tax return.,
else any other option to prove, if i create fake experience letter also, i dont think i can show bank statement..

In my opinion, you could skip this self employed experience and try to work out letters for your call center experience. You can reach out to your previous supervisors and get a notarized letter with responsibilities.
 
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21Goose

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One last question to all,

Well, i can show Self Employed from 2013 till date, but the company registration on my wife name and i was handling business since 2013, i dont have any Income Tax returns because of business going under loss since 3 years., so if possible i can show upto 1 year tax return.,
else any other option to prove, if i create fake experience letter also, i dont think i can show bank statement..
Don't even think of faking anything. You can be barred for five years (or for life).
 

shahid7in

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Hi
In my opinion, you could skip this self employed experience and try to work out letters for your call center experience. You can reach out to your previous supervisors and get a notarized letter with responsibilities.
Well, i can get letter from callceter but that is not web development job i did in that company, i was just working as Tech Support guy, after 5 years i started Self Employed Business in home country.., even my NOC code is 2175, but for call center it will be different..

Let me think twice before putting information in profile, thanks to you for prompt reply
 

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Well, i can get letter from callceter but that is not web development job i did in that company, i was just working as Tech Support guy, after 5 years i started Self Employed Business in home country.., even my NOC code is 2175, but for call center it will be different..

Let me think twice before putting information in profile, thanks to you for prompt reply
How about choosing a different noc.. something meant for customer support. I'm pretty sure you can find one.. They have big list. You need one continuous year of experience in any noc for express entry.
 

shahid7in

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How about choosing a different noc.. something meant for customer support. I'm pretty sure you can find one.. They have big list. You need one continuous year of experience in any noc for express entry.

Hi dear

I am sorry I didn't catch that, please explain me how I can show the self employed experience
I can get all clients letter even I can show my client list database with reference letter