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Hi All,

Form 3 of the CEC application package forms "Background/Declaration (IMM 5669)" requests detailed personal history from the past 10 years.

With regard to employments, do we need to provide offer letters or relieving/experience letters from the previous companies ?

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No, not for the past 10 years. The documents you need to provide are stated in the Document Checklist. There it states that for work experience in Canada, you need to provide Letters of Employment for the past 3 years .
 

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jes_ON said:
No, not for the past 10 years. The documents you need to provide are stated in the Document Checklist. There it states that for work experience in Canada, you need to provide Letters of Employment for the past 3 years .
Jes,

I agree with you that the employment reference letters from the past and present employers need to be provided for the past 3 years. This is mentioned in the "Work Experience in Canada" section. At the same time, we also need to provide personal history details for the past 10 years.(Form List # 3) that may include employments with one or more companies. In this case, do we need to provide any job offer letters or experience letters (when left) to prove the employment with each of the past companies during the 10 year duration ?

Please advise.

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Canadavisa07 said:
Jes,

I agree with you that the employment reference letters from the past and present employers need to be provided for the past 3 years. This is mentioned in the "Work Experience in Canada" section. At the same time, we also need to provide personal history details for the past 10 years.(Form List # 3) that may include employments with one or more companies. In this case, do we need to provide any job offer letters or experience letters (when left) to prove the employment with each of the past companies during the 10 year duration ?

Please advise.

Thanks.
I don't think so. Probably some places won't remember that you worked there. My first job was waiter in a restaurant back home 10 years ago, few years later I worked as CSR (telemarketing) for two different companies. I bet they don't have proof of records that I worked there.

Will see what Jes has to say.
 

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Canadavisa07 said:
Jes,

I agree with you that the employment reference letters from the past and present employers need to be provided for the past 3 years. This is mentioned in the "Work Experience in Canada" section. At the same time, we also need to provide personal history details for the past 10 years.(Form List # 3) that may include employments with one or more companies. In this case, do we need to provide any job offer letters or experience letters (when left) to prove the employment with each of the past companies during the 10 year duration ?
Already answered, No. There is no need to provide anything that is not requested.
 

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jes_ON said:
Already answered, No. There is no need to provide anything that is not requested.
Then what does "Original" refer to as mentioned besides the personal history details section in Form List No. 3 Background/Declaration (IMM 5669).
 

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Then what does "Original" refer to as mentioned besides the personal history details section in Form List No. 3 Background/Declaration (IMM 5669).
You're referring to #3 on the Document Checklist? - it means to submit the original copy of the FORM. It's the same for all forms (Items 1-7 on the document checklist). You have to sign the form and keep photocopies, but submit the original form with your actual signature.
 

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jes_ON said:
You're referring to #3 on the Document Checklist? - it means to submit the original copy of the FORM. It's the same for all forms (Items 1-7 on the document checklist). You have to sign the form and keep photocopies, but submit the original form with your actual signature.
Thank you Jes for the clarification..
 

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Hello there Jen. You are on this website a lot and so you are the person to ask the following i believe.

Im applying in a few weeks for CEC. I believe I have enough work experience. I worked from August 2009 to September 2011 in a managerial role, then very part time in a call centre between October and DEcember 2011. I have around 47 pay periods (bi weekly) that are 80 hours or more, however the other bi-weeklies that are less than 75 hours add up to an equivalent of about 14 weeks when divided by 37.5. So i think and hope that im okay there.

My question is: befoer New Years Day 2012 the document checklist requested ROEs. So i got one from the employer who had me for 25 months. Now, their letter of reference states that i worked for 40 hours a week throughout the whole period of my employment there. Its not strictly true, as in the first 5 months there i had some pay periods where i did 71.5 hours for example, some 76. Throughout every pay period for 2010 i had 80 hours bi weekly, and in 2011 i had every pay period 80 hours until near the end of my stay, when it went to 74, 74 and then 55.5 for the end of my time there. My former employer has in any case provided another letter detailing exactly these hours that i worked, as the ROE only covers my last year. Its clearly a little different from the Letter of reference he gave me, but does it really matter? That he wrote '40 hours a week throughout the whole period of his employment' if hes also provided exact hours even if theyre a little less than 40 hours in some cases? i mean the informations all there, i just dont want to looked down on for lying.

SEcondly. Document checklist has changed since Jan 2md 2012. It doesnt even ask for ROEs now. I see that you are a big one for not handing in things they havent asked for. But is there a chance that they may ask for ROE later? I would rather hand it all in now, ROE and all, although if theres a good chance that the Letter of reference will be more than enough, maybe its worth doing that so that there isnt a discrepancy there? Im not sure. What do you think? I have no other proof of hours worked except ROE and letter from former employer who has had it all typed out.
 

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Hi everyone,

I am going yo apply for cec in a few days and I am a little confused for the last 3 years reference letter.
I have got my MSc degree in Canada in Dec. 2010. From Jan. 2011 to now I have been working full time.
Do I have to provide reference letter from my supervisor in the university for the duration of Sept 2008 to Dec. 2010 that I was doing my Masters and I was a research assistant and being paid?

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mattwinnipeg said:
Hello there Jen. You are on this website a lot and so you are the person to ask the following i believe.

Im applying in a few weeks for CEC. I believe I have enough work experience. I worked from August 2009 to September 2011 in a managerial role, then very part time in a call centre between October and DEcember 2011. I have around 47 pay periods (bi weekly) that are 80 hours or more, however the other bi-weeklies that are less than 75 hours add up to an equivalent of about 14 weeks when divided by 37.5. So i think and hope that im okay there.

My question is: befoer New Years Day 2012 the document checklist requested ROEs. So i got one from the employer who had me for 25 months. Now, their letter of reference states that i worked for 40 hours a week throughout the whole period of my employment there. Its not strictly true, as in the first 5 months there i had some pay periods where i did 71.5 hours for example, some 76. Throughout every pay period for 2010 i had 80 hours bi weekly, and in 2011 i had every pay period 80 hours until near the end of my stay, when it went to 74, 74 and then 55.5 for the end of my time there. My former employer has in any case provided another letter detailing exactly these hours that i worked, as the ROE only covers my last year. Its clearly a little different from the Letter of reference he gave me, but does it really matter? That he wrote '40 hours a week throughout the whole period of his employment' if hes also provided exact hours even if theyre a little less than 40 hours in some cases? i mean the informations all there, i just dont want to looked down on for lying.

SEcondly. Document checklist has changed since Jan 2md 2012. It doesnt even ask for ROEs now. I see that you are a big one for not handing in things they havent asked for. But is there a chance that they may ask for ROE later? I would rather hand it all in now, ROE and all, although if theres a good chance that the Letter of reference will be more than enough, maybe its worth doing that so that there isnt a discrepancy there? Im not sure. What do you think? I have no other proof of hours worked except ROE and letter from former employer who has had it all typed out.
Hi - sorry, been away -

There is other proof, i you submit your T4s and divide annual wage by hourly wage, you'll see how many hours were worked.

I'm confused - you have 2 different letters from the same employer, one says 40 hrs per week, one gives exact details. Why not just use the 2nd one?