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Employer Denied to Give Job Letter

mannu635

Star Member
Aug 17, 2012
65
17
125
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Toronto
NOC Code......
2175
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Hi Everybody.

I worked with this employer for few months(4 months to be precise) and then he fired me because I got job offer from new company. It was NOC job code 2175. Recently, I became eligible for Express Entry so I thought it will be a good idea to gather required documents beforehand.

I contacted him explaining everything and his reply was that They don't give job letters to terminated employees. I have my ROE and job contract letter.

I want to know what are my options now? Goto Ministry of labor or explain it to CIC or contact lawyer?
 

DelPiero07

VIP Member
Oct 2, 2016
10,388
2,614
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Is this employment helping you get any CRS points? If not remove it from the work history and add it in the personal history section once you obtain your ITA - you won't be required any proof.

Otherwise is there a former colleague or manager who could write a declaration of your duties and responsibilities? If you provide what you have + this letter + proof that he refused to provide a reference letter then it might be sufficient proof to claim those points.
 

xpressentry

VIP Member
Nov 27, 2016
3,106
187
London
Category........
NOC Code......
0631
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-03-2017
Doc's Request.
Schedule A - upfront
AOR Received.
29-03-2017
IELTS Request
Upfront
File Transfer...
Waiting
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
28-03-2017
Passport Req..
Waiting
VISA ISSUED...
Waiting
LANDED..........
Waiting
Getting a letter from the employer is not easy. I had to beg and plead to get mine especially from my previous employer where I didn't leave on good terms. Ultimately, I got it.
 

adanac_ati

Star Member
Jan 28, 2017
98
9
Yes; getting employer letter is the first most time consuming thing. The second being PCC ( US FBI ; dont know about other countries.)

So plan accordingly.
 

jes_ON

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Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
mannu635 said:
I contacted him explaining everything and his reply was that They don't give job letters to terminated employees. I have my ROE and job contract letter.

I want to know what are my options now? Goto Ministry of labor or explain it to CIC or contact lawyer?
As others have suggested - first determine if that 4 months is going to benefit your CRS score in any way. If it does not, then simply exclude it from your profile (if you get the ITA, you will need to include it on your background history).

If it does make a difference - e.g. that 4 months gives you 2 full years of work experience instead of one - then... You have the ROE, job contract letter, and presumably your T4, those are strong supporting documents. Then write a letter of explanation about your employer's refusal to give you a letter. Provide proof if you have it (e.g. if you got their response by email). A letter from a former colleague would also be helpful (esp. if they can describe the job duties you performed). If you have all that, then you have done the best you can do. But the letter of explanation is essential.
 

slw

Star Member
Feb 17, 2016
65
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1226
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-01-17
AOR Received.
30-01-17
Med's Done....
27-02-17
Passport Req..
18-04-17
LANDED..........
28-04-17
As others have stated these are the steps I would take:
1) Determine if it will add to your points, otherwise put it in personal history
2) If you need these points get a letter from a co-worker, human resources or someone senior in the company
3) Attach the email where your employer says they can't give you a letter
4) Also include any other documents to support: T4, contract, pay stubs, etc
5) And lastly a letter of explanation that you tried to get it but was denied

Hope it works out!
 

mannu635

Star Member
Aug 17, 2012
65
17
125
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Toronto
NOC Code......
2175
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
DelPiero07 said:
Is this employment helping you get any CRS points? If not remove it from the work history and add it in the personal history section once you obtain your ITA - you won't be required any proof.

Otherwise is there a former colleague or manager who could write a declaration of your duties and responsibilities? If you provide what you have + this letter + proof that he refused to provide a reference letter then it might be sufficient proof to claim those points.
Yes this job is definitely getting me points and become eligible so I will have to include it.

jes_ON said:
As others have suggested - first determine if that 4 months is going to benefit your CRS score in any way. If it does not, then simply exclude it from your profile (if you get the ITA, you will need to include it on your background history).

If it does make a difference - e.g. that 4 months gives you 2 full years of work experience instead of one - then... You have the ROE, job contract letter, and presumably your T4, those are strong supporting documents. Then write a letter of explanation about your employer's refusal to give you a letter. Provide proof if you have it (e.g. if you got their response by email). A letter from a former colleague would also be helpful (esp. if they can describe the job duties you performed). If you have all that, then you have done the best you can do. But the letter of explanation is essential.
slw said:
As others have stated these are the steps I would take:
1) Determine if it will add to your points, otherwise put it in personal history
2) If you need these points get a letter from a co-worker, human resources or someone senior in the company
3) Attach the email where your employer says they can't give you a letter
4) Also include any other documents to support: T4, contract, pay stubs, etc
5) And lastly a letter of explanation that you tried to get it but was denied

Hope it works out!
I have all the supporting documents (t4, contract letter and ROE). I have good connections with Co workers so I will get someone to write a letter for a me. And yes I do his email where he clearly refuses to give letter

Thanks for your replies guys.