Effective date of Bill C24

[sjakub]

Sorry but I am not convinced about what dpenabill is explaining. Correct me if I am wrong: This means applications will be sent only in one month of each calender year, which is after 184 days in each year (July is month seven of each calender year).

Doesn't really matter if you're convinced or not. He's right. And no, July will not be the only month to send applications, he never wrote that.

 

[sjakub]

A PR landed on July 05, 2012 and has following travel history;
1. Year 2012 no travel since landed in July 05, 2012= 180 days of stay
2. Year 2013- 7 days absence= 358 days of stay
3. Year 2014- 45 days absence= 320 days of stay
4. Year 2015- 47 days absence= 318 days of stay
5. Year 2016 if no absence until October 31
Total absence=99 days
My understanding is that eligibility date for placing citizenship application is October 15, 2016. Am I right?

More like October 11 (or 12, if you need to apply the next day).

 

[neutral]

Correct me if I am wrong: This means applications will be sent only in one month of each calender year, which is after 184 days in each year (July is month seven of each calender year).

I correct you, you ARE WRONG .

You didn't understand what dpenabill explained.

 

[neutral]

If I become Canadian Citizen then I will never vote for conservative party.I swear.

Harper will survive.

 

[Surprised]

Friends, I need some advise. I finish my 1095 days on Monday. I have the application ready. Should I send it or wait another year?

 

[MiriamT]

Friends, I need some advise. I finish my 1095 days on Monday. I have the application ready. Should I send it or wait another year?

Where are you located? I read some people on this forum say that Purolator does delivery overnight, so you could theoretically send it on Tuesday and have it received by the CPC on Wednesday (I guess that'd depend where in the country you are). I chose FedEx Priority Overnight and it wasn't overnight at all — but I'm all the way in BC.

 

[oldfriend]

I will ask it again,
George got his PR and landed in Canada on july 20 2014
when is the earliest day he can apply ?
isnt it on apr 2019 after filing tax for 15-16-17-and 18 ?

I will break it down for you

In 2015 George has filed the tax return for 2014 year // Tax return can be filed any time between Jan 1 and April 30 of the year. The earliest the better //
In 2016 George will file the tax return for 2015 year
In 2017 George will file the tax return for 2016 year
In 2018 George will file the tax return for 2017 year

If George could satisfy the residence requirment (4/6 with at least 183 days each year) on July 20 2018 , then he will be able to apply for citizenship after that.
Regarding the 183 days each year , the year for this purpose starts not in January 1st BUT starts from the day of landing and on .

Hopefully this can help .


BTW : Why you are bothering your self with this issue while you have already submitted your application under the old rules. Do you expect that your application (God don't permit) will be returned

 

[anil04_10]

Dear friends

My 1st post on this thread. After observing that few friends could not comprehend the residency requirement, I will try to clarify this residency calculation ....may be in a better and very simple way .... : ....... Just a simplified version of what dpenabill is trying to explain AND what I understood about residency requirement -
(1) Don't worry ....... you can land anytime of the year as a PR holder. Not even 1 day will be wasted (as someone was mentioning) .....
(2) If an individual didn't leave Canada (after landing/getting PR) even for a day, he/she will be eligible to apply exactly after 1460 days (means 4 years) ....irrespective of 183 days clause!
(3) For PR holders who were out of Canada, need to take care of this 183 days clause while applying for citizenship -
(i) If you have less than 183 days in the year of landing, that year will not be counted ....... (I said year, but days will)
(ii) Next 4/5/6 (as per your absence from Canada) years will be counted. You can go out of Canada, as per your requirement BUT
* make sure that you have minimum 183 days in each of these 4 years PLUS
* you complete a total of 1460 days (from the day of landing), a day before you apply for citizenship.
(4) Apart from above 3 points, remember to file your tax returns (whether you are required to pay tax or not) EVERY year. The term - "meet their personal income tax obligations" is not very clear, BUT that is one eligibility criteria!!

The calculations will come true, for any day you land. It is not confusing ..... just different interpretations.

I hope now it is clear to few of my friends ....

Cheers, Anil

 

[ari5323]

I will break it down for you

In 2015 George has filed the tax return for 2014 year // Tax return can be filed any time between Jan 1 and April 30 of the year. The earliest the better //



BTW : Why you are bothering your self with this issue while you have already submitted your application under the old rules. Do you expect that your application (God don't permit) will be returned

Hell no !!! I hired the top immigration lawyer to fill out my papers Zoro mistakes.
And I don't have any problem with tax I live here with a permit since June 2010 and I filed and paid tax for 2010-11-12-13-14 .
Tell me, What's wrong with wanting to understand the new law ? Life isn't all just about me. Look at the case of David Parker, chasing his own tail so any years, I feel so sorry for him.
I do fully understand the importance of the new law, it's a great filter to make sure that only genuine immigrants are becoming citizens , but some people with bad luck will have to wait a lot, or for travelling business people, they will have to wait very long to apply.

 

[Adnan34]

Dear Anil,
Very well defined and simplified.
Could you please further explain your statement below;
(i) If you have less than 183 days in the year of landing, that year will not be counted ....... (I said year, but days will)

 

[anil04_10]

Dear Anil,
Very well ............
................... that year will not be counted ....... (I said year, but days will)

Dear Adnan bhai

It is because of the rule - In each year you must have a physical presence of minimum 183 days (for 4 years). ......

Suppose you landed on 1st October 2012 (means 92 days in 2012) 2012 92 days (year not considered < 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2013 (means 365 days in 2013) 2013 365 days (1st year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2014 (means 365 days in 2014) 2014 365 days (2nd year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2015 (means 365 days in 2015) 2015 365 days (3rd year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada till 30th Sept 2016 (means 273 days in 2016)* 2016 273 days (4th year considered > 183 days)
TOTAL - 1460 days (4 years with minimum 183 days)
Hope the example has eased your confusion ....
(I presume my calculations are correct ..... Didn't use R/calculator ...... ; * 2016 is a leap year, extra day NOT taken into account)
Cheers, Anil

 

[Adnan34]

Thanks Anil

 

[Martin29]

Friends, I need some advise. I finish my 1095 days on Monday. I have the application ready. Should I send it or wait another year?

You should sign only on 1096th day.If you are eligible on Monday send on Monday using fastest courier service.But if you are eligible only on Tuesday there is a risk.Talk to a courier service before you pay the fee.

 

[RAY2112]

Thank you, that's much better.

Dear Adnan bhai

It is because of the rule - In each year you must have a physical presence of minimum 183 days (for 4 years). ......

Suppose you landed on 1st October 2012 (means 92 days in 2012) 2012 92 days (year not considered < 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2013 (means 365 days in 2013) 2013 365 days (1st year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2014 (means 365 days in 2014) 2014 365 days (2nd year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada in 2015 (means 365 days in 2015) 2015 365 days (3rd year considered > 183 days)
You didn't go out of Canada till 30th Sept 2016 (means 273 days in 2016)* 2016 273 days (4th year considered > 183 days)
TOTAL - 1460 days (4 years with minimum 183 days)
Hope the example has eased your confusion ....
(I presume my calculations are correct ..... Didn't use R/calculator ...... ; * 2016 is a leap year, extra day NOT taken into account)
Cheers, Anil

 

[chikloo]

You should sign only on 1096th day.If you are eligible on Monday send on Monday using fastest courier service.But if you are eligible only on Tuesday there is a risk.Talk to a courier service before you pay the fee.

In puralotor for 380 dollars they have next flight service. It will reach in 4 or 5 hours.