EE - PCC from India - PSK issued PCC no longer acceptable?

[cyronn]

Any update to this? Find it hard to believe that for some reason only Delhi residents can submit a PSK issued PCC.

 

[Neel0526]

Has anyone (Indian) received ITA and applied for PR after 26th May 2015 with PCC from PSK and received AOR?

Guys please respond, seems some changes in PCC requirements for Indian after this date.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Has anyone (Indian) received ITA and applied for PR after 26th May 2015 with PCC from PSK and received AOR?

Guys please respond, seems some changes in PCC requirements for Indian after this date.

We need to hear from people who submitted their applications after June. CIC is giving us nightmares. I do not understand the logic behind this change. They are making the process very uncomfortable, annoying and tough!

 

[Asivad Anac]

This appears to be yet another confusion doing the rounds.

I imagine it is perfectly fine to get a PCC from the passport authorities of a country. The legitimacy of any document issued by the passport authorities of a country will be at least equal to, and almost always more than, any document issued by a provincial or city-level police authority.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

This appears to be yet another confusion doing the rounds.

I imagine it is perfectly fine to get a PCC from the passport authorities of a country. The legitimacy of any document issued by the passport authorities of a country will be at least equal to, and almost always more than, any document issued by a provincial or city-level police authority.

Exactly . Why does CIC have to confuse prospective immigrants and make it tough for them. They have not even explained why this change has been made .

 

[Asivad Anac]

Exactly . Why does CIC have to confuse prospective immigrants and make it tough for them. They have not even explained why this change has been made .

The confusion is cause more by forum members than by CIC. CIC instructions clearly state that one "can" apply to the police authorities for PCC. Nowhere does it state that PCC obtained from passport authorities is invalid or no longer acceptable. There is a world of difference between 'can' and 'must'/'should'.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

The confusion is cause more by forum members than by CIC. CIC instructions clearly state that one "can" apply to the police authorities for PCC. Nowhere does it state that PCC obtained from passport authorities is invalid or no longer acceptable. There is a world of difference between 'can' and 'must'/'should'.

I respect your opinion Asivad but earlier it was simple. It read "People from other states can apply at PSK or at the district police station". Now, they have removed that and now it reads "Applicants from Delhi can apply from the Delhi Police website or from the PSK" and for other states, it reads "Can apply at District Police Station". If CIC meant to say that people from other states "can also" apply at PSKs, they could have very well added that but they did not. They have mentioned the word PSK only in the Delhi applicants section. That's the cause for all this confusion .

 

[Asivad Anac]

I respect your opinion Asivad but earlier it was simple. It read "People from other states can apply at PSK or at the district police station". Now, they have removed that and now it reads "Applicants from Delhi can apply from the Delhi Police website or from the PSK" and for other states, it reads "Can apply at District Police Station". If CIC meant to say that people from other states "can also" apply at PSKs, they could have very well added that but they did not. They have mentioned the word PSK only in the Delhi applicants section. That's the cause for all this confusion .

Let's think about this rationally.

Does CIC mean that passport authorities can be trusted to vouch only for applicants from Delhi? Does CIC mean that passport authorities cannot be trusted for anyone living anywhere else in India? I hardly think so. I think what happened is that when they revised something on their website, someone was lazy to not write everything down properly.

I still maintain that a PCC document issued by the same authorities who issue passports, which is a globally recognized national identity document for that country's citizens, can and will be accepted by CIC. A PCC isn't on top of the hierarchy of documents issued by passport authorities - if CIC really doubted that the passport authorities' capabilities do not extend beyond the country's capital, they wouldn't even accept passports issued by them to applicants outside Delhi in the first place leave alone the PCC! Period.

 

[sushsmart15]

Many people in India do not know why this PCC service has been started by the Passport Seva Kendra (PSK). It is because the Government officers and passport offices received thousands of complaints from the Citizens that they were being overcharged for the PCC by their local police officials - mostly depending on the status of the citizen.
To stop corruption, Indian Government introduced this service via PSK so that everyone is charged the same for the PCC and there would be no more hassles. The PCC obtained from PSK should definitely be valid irrespective of where a person is residing - be it Delhi or any other part of the country.
PSK is a Government body. CIC is only interested in making sure that the PCC has been issued by a Government authority and that the applicant does not have any Police case/records mentioned on the PCC.

I hope this information can help numerous people in this forum.

 

[aeropostale]

Guys.. I'm in Bangalore and I've used the PSK PCC only for my submission.(Submitted on 14th Sep)

I have received AOR... its not a confirmation that it is valid. I'll keep you posted if anything comes up related to it.

Also.. I thought of sharing this here.. When I was at PSK for my PCC.. A lady in front of me was also there for here PCC.. She was applying for Australian PR.. she already had a PCC certificate from the Karnataka Police, but she was confirming with the PSK agent wheterthey will stamp the passport as well with the PCC as the for the PCC from the Police did not stamp her passport... It seemed that they needed the stamp on the passport.

 

[Neel0526]

Thanks aeropostale for the update...

A bunch of thanks to Asivad and rajkamal for detailed analysis...

 

[niravk]

Whatever CIC wants us to interpret, let me tell you getting a PCC from district police station is not an onerous task. Let us all face this, we very well know how tardy and torpid the Indian bureaucratic system works.

CIC has explicitly mentioned "can" which implies to apply for a PCC offline. I assume they have made this very clear. Having said this the process is digitized to a certain extent. So better for residents of other states to collect it from their respective police station. I have applied.

 

[rollingpunjab]

Well I live In Chandigarh And few days back i submitted my complete file for PCC at my local passport office. However, passport office will not submit PCC with "their own" sign and stamp. My file was electronically transmitted to Superintendent Of Police office In Chandigarh. It happened the same day. Now, Police headquarters authority will check my records, send their executives to my home to verify my address. Once all that is done, they will forward my PCC to passport office. PSK will send me an sms that My PCC has arrived. Next day I will go and collect it.

However, If I straightway go to Superintendent office, same procedure will be followed and I will get the same certificate. hence, in my opinion, Passport office is just a kind off "hub" to provide the hassle free service to the citizens who require their PCC for immigration. They coordinate with local police authorities on our behalf rather than we going to police stations and doing it ourselves.

I might be wrong. Please correct me, If someone has done more analysis on this topic.

Regards

 

[sushsmart15]

Well I live In Chandigarh And few days back i submitted my complete file for PCC at my local passport office. However, passport office will not submit PCC with "their own" sign and stamp. My file was electronically transmitted to Superintendent Of Police office In Chandigarh. It happened the same day. Now, Police headquarters authority will check my records, send their executives to my home to verify my address. Once all that is done, they will forward my PCC to passport office. PSK will send me an sms that My PCC has arrived. Next day I will go and collect it.

However, If I straightway go to Superintendent office, same procedure will be followed and I will get the same certificate. hence, in my opinion, Passport office is just a kind off "hub" to provide the hassle free service to the citizens who require their PCC for immigration. They coordinate with local police authorities on our behalf rather than we going to police stations and doing it ourselves.

I might be wrong. Please correct me, If someone has done more analysis on this topic.

Regards



You are absolutely correct. This is the procedure followed.

 

[Jkal]

Well I live In Chandigarh And few days back i submitted my complete file for PCC at my local passport office. However, passport office will not submit PCC with "their own" sign and stamp. My file was electronically transmitted to Superintendent Of Police office In Chandigarh. It happened the same day. Now, Police headquarters authority will check my records, send their executives to my home to verify my address. Once all that is done, they will forward my PCC to passport office. PSK will send me an sms that My PCC has arrived. Next day I will go and collect it.

However, If I straightway go to Superintendent office, same procedure will be followed and I will get the same certificate. hence, in my opinion, Passport office is just a kind off "hub" to provide the hassle free service to the citizens who require their PCC for immigration. They coordinate with local police authorities on our behalf rather than we going to police stations and doing it ourselves.

I might be wrong. Please correct me, If someone has done more analysis on this topic.

Regards



You are absolutely correct. This is the procedure followed.

I got my PCC from Office of Commissioner of Police in Bangalore without any hassle and didn't have to run for it. It is no more a mammoth task.
I see that there are ppl who assume/presume and etc. Looking at the recent trend of lame rejection reasons, i would still stick to what CIC says. If PCC from PSK was acceptable for rest of the states other than Delhi, then why did CIC scratch their head to add a few lines making it different for Delhi vs rest of the country? I will leave it you to think about it.
Logically and technically, there is no difference bet PSK and Police PCC as both are checked by your local police station.