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holbond said:
Hi, thank you for the reply

i got his from some thread. Some say real estate is ok and some not. Is there an email id so that I can talk to IRCC ?

Canadian immigration, proof of funds requirements


As part of the permanent resident application process you will need to prove to the Canadian government that you have enough monitory funds to support yourself and any accompanying family members when you arrive in Canada. This is because the government will not provide any financial support for new immigrants and therefore they need to be sure that you arrive with enough money to establish yourself in Canada.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) set guidelines as to the required funds they consider you need as a minimum in order to establish yourself in Canada. The amount required depends on the size of your family. These amounts can vary from time to time, so you should check these figures at the point you need to use them.

At the time of your application you must show that you have at least the required amount in order for your application to be processed. The money has to belong to you and cannot be borrowed from another person. The money must be readily available in transferable currency for settlement in Canada.
Obviously you can take any amount above the required funds with you to Canada. There is no upper limit, although there are restrictions on how much cash you can physically take with you at the time of landing.

You may be wondering what type of funds you can use and what type of proof is required. Well, there are several things to consider:

Savings: If you have savings which match or exceed the required amount then you can simply supply a copy of your bank statement showing the funds in your account. You should be able to show the funds in your account for a minimum of three months and if the funds have recently been transferred you will need to show where they came from.

You will also need to show that you are not just sending a statement just after being paid and that all the funds will disappear from the account the following week. If your money is split between several accounts, you will need to provide details of each up to the amount required.

Shares, Bonds etc: This type of investment is not acceptable for CIC purposes as these are volatile accounts and you could still loose your money. If you want to use this type of funding, you will need to cash-in the money from the shares etc and deposit them in a suitable bank account and send the statements as above.

Possessions: Again this is not acceptable by CIC. you will need to liquidate the assets and deposit the money in a suitable account. This also applies to vehicles.

Real Estate: Money in property is probably the most widely used proof of funds. Many people plan to sell property owned in their home country before landing in Canada and will use the equity to establish themselves.

This is totally acceptable by CIC and they appreciate that you may not have actually sold the property at the point you are required to supply this information and make allowances for this.

You will be allowed to supply a mortgage statement from your lender stating how much money is owed on the property. You should then get your property valued by three independent companies. These can be real estate agents, property valuation companies, your mortgage lender etc. Make sure you get the valuation on letter headed paper and signed.

If you send both the mortgage details and the valuations the CIC can see how much equity you have available.



N.B. You do not have to show that you have these funds if you have arranged employment in Canada
Well, then you need to confirm it first from IRCC. Try searching for their email id in the "Contact" section on their website. All the best.
 

Parvaneh

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I have worked for two years after graduating from my BSc, outside Canada. After that, I started studying as MSc and then PhD and have now worked for a bit more than one year after my PhD graduation, again outside Canada. Both of the jobs have been in the same field (same NOC) but are not the same job position of course. Can I count all the three years that I have worked, although there has been a break for studying?
According to what I read on CIC webiste they ask for the following requirements on work experience:
"Skilled work experience:
Your work experience must be:
•at least one year (1,560 hours total / 30 hours per week), continuous full-time or an equal amount in part-time,
•paid work (volunteer work, unpaid internships do not count),
•in the same job,
•within the last 10 years, and
•at skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)."

They mention that it should be continuous and in the same job. I can't fully understand this.
- does it have to be continuous for at least one year, or this applies to the whole work experience?
- what is meant exactly by in the same job? Does it mean the same position or the same type of work/NOC?
I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help with this!
 

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Parvaneh said:
I have worked for two years after graduating from my BSc, outside Canada. After that, I started studying as MSc and then PhD and have now worked for a bit more than one year after my PhD graduation, again outside Canada. Both of the jobs have been in the same field (same NOC) but are not the same job position of course. Can I count all the three years that I have worked, although there has been a break for studying?
Yes, if all the job duties fall under one single NOC code, then you can claim points for 3 years work exp.
What matters is that this whole 3 years work exp. was within the last 10 years.

According to what I read on CIC webiste they ask for the following requirements on work experience:
"Skilled work experience:
Your work experience must be:
•at least one year (1,560 hours total / 30 hours per week), continuous full-time or an equal amount in part-time,
•paid work (volunteer work, unpaid internships do not count),
•in the same job,
•within the last 10 years, and
•at skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)."

They mention that it should be continuous and in the same job. I can't fully understand this.
- does it have to be continuous for at least one year, or this applies to the whole work experience?
Your work experience in your intended NOC code should be atleast 1 year in total (or more) and this work exp. should be within the last 10 years (last 5 years for OINP) in order to be eligible for EE profile.

- what is meant exactly by in the same job? Does it mean the same position or the same type of work/NOC?
It means the same NOC code.

I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help with this!
 

holbond

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sushsmart15 said:
Well, then you need to confirm it first from IRCC. Try searching for their email id in the "Contact" section on their website. All the best.
Hi
Thank you. I tried searching for the contact but no luck. Do you have the email id by chance ?
 

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Hello friends,
I have a genuine concern.
My ielts score W6 R7.5 L7.5 S7.5
Spouse ielts score W8 R7 L8 S8
Me as the primary applicant CRS 410
Spouse as the primary applicant CRS 457.
Why such significant difference just with the change of primary applicant because in both thw cases CIC gets our IELTS score?

How am i supposed to proceed ?
 

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Srushti said:
Hello friends,
I have a genuine concern.
My ielts score W6 R7.5 L7.5 S7.5
Spouse ielts score W8 R7 L8 S8
Me as the primary applicant CRS 410
Spouse as the primary applicant CRS 457.
Why such significant difference just with the change of primary applicant because in both thw cases CIC gets our IELTS score?

How am i supposed to proceed ?
Spouse has higher language scores and more education? More work experience?

As the primary app my application is 440. My boyfriend is 426. We have created two profiles with both listed as spouse. If my boyfriend gets a PNP, we will delete mine and vice versa. If you both get ITAs then make sure you don't submit two applications.
 

Srushti

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Hey thanks a lot for that reply.
I have 4 years work ex with foreign skilled labour and my wife has 2 years work ex with foreign skilled labour.

Do you think both of us should apply seperately and see who gets picked ?
:)
kryt0n said:
Spouse has higher language scores and more education? More work experience?

As the primary app my application is 440. My boyfriend is 426. We have created two profiles with both listed as spouse. If my boyfriend gets a PNP, we will delete mine and vice versa. If you both get ITAs then make sure you don't submit two applications.
 

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Srushti said:
Hey thanks a lot for that reply.
I have 4 years work ex with foreign skilled labour and my wife has 2 years work ex with foreign skilled labour.

Do you think both of us should apply seperately and see who gets picked ?
:)
Well, that's what we have done.

1) me as primary + spouse = 440
2) spouse as primary + me = 426

Both have different primary NOC codes. EE profile 1 may get picked on points alone... however EE profile 2 may get picked based on his NOC.

Our proof of funds are in a joint bank account.

When one gets an ITA, the other EE profile will be withdrawn so we only ever SUBMIT one application.

Hope this helps.
 

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Srushti said:
Hello friends,
I have a genuine concern.
My ielts score W6 R7.5 L7.5 S7.5
Spouse ielts score W8 R7 L8 S8
Me as the primary applicant CRS 410
Spouse as the primary applicant CRS 457.
Why such significant difference just with the change of primary applicant because in both thw cases CIC gets our IELTS score?

How am i supposed to proceed ?
Your spouse hit 4x cbl 9 or higher with her language. That means possibility to get all 100 points for transferability (50 for university degree and 50 for 3 or more years of work experience. If you get just one skill under cbl 9 (like you did) you will loose 50 points on the spot from this section. Thats why such difference. In real life adaptability there is no difference between you and her. I would even say that you will have a bit easier time to get first job. But that is just reality and not ee
 

Srushti

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Thats good insight mate.
But its kind wierd with the system, when the Cic knows that the couple are gonn come to canada if they get an invitation, CRS shouldn't be changing significantly with whoso ever is the primary applicant. Doesnt make sense. Hope you got what m trying to say.
vensak said:
Your spouse hit 4x cbl 9 or higher with her language. That means possibility to get all 100 points for transferability (50 for university degree and 50 for 3 or more years of work experience. If you get just one skill under cbl 9 (like you did) you will loose 50 points on the spot from this section. Thats why such difference. In real life adaptability there is no difference between you and her. I would even say that you will have a bit easier time to get first job. But that is just reality and not ee
 

vensak

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Srushti said:
Thats good insight mate.
But its kind wierd with the system, when the Cic knows that the couple are gonn come to canada if they get an invitation, CRS shouldn't be changing significantly with whoso ever is the primary applicant. Doesnt make sense. Hope you got what m trying to say.
How about more simple question. Do you think that because of your writing (where i guess you have used a bit less organised style which was not that much to their liking with few typo mistakes most of which it word correcteble). your chances to get job in canada are so much lower. I would only agree to that if your specialisation is teaching english, english literature of if you want to lance as professionalenglish to something translator. Other than that your language is good enough.

They give you some significantly lower points for spouse as they assume the rather decent possibility when one of you will stay home on maternity lead (since they want young people that have either none or rather small children. With such perpective practicaly average knowledge of langue is all it matters (thats why so little difference between top and basic language). good education is also nice to have (but not essential). And the only other thing that counts there are canda ties (school work or family).
so technically the one put as main applicant is assesed as the future bread bringer. And spouse is seen literaly depandant there.
 

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Makes a lot of sense now. In that case i should just file both our application s and see whoes gets picked up
vensak said:
How about more simple question. Do you think that because of your writing (where i guess you have used a bit less organised style which was not that much to their liking with few typo mistakes most of which it word correcteble). your chances to get job in canada are so much lower. I would only agree to that if your specialisation is teaching english, english literature of if you want to lance as professionalenglish to something translator. Other than that your language is good enough.

They give you some significantly lower points for spouse as they assume the rather decent possibility when one of you will stay home on maternity lead (since they want young people that have either none or rather small children. With such perpective practicaly average knowledge of langue is all it matters (thats why so little difference between top and basic language). good education is also nice to have (but not essential). And the only other thing that counts there are canda ties (school work or family).
so technically the one put as main applicant is assesed as the future bread bringer. And spouse is seen literaly depandant there.
 

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Folks,

What are the chances for the applicants in 400 to 450 band? Do you think CRS to come down to this level? It is simply waiting from May 2016. Cant do much except reading the posts, keeping the documents ready and googling about canada immigration.

Thank you,
Pawshi
 

holbond

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Pawshi said:
Folks,

What are the chances for the applicants in 400 to 450 band? Do you think CRS to come down to this level? It is simply waiting from May 2016. Cant do much except reading the posts, keeping the documents ready and googling about canada immigration.

Thank you,
Pawshi
I think the chances are low.. The last draw cut off was 475 and the number of invites was 1800 odd. This means that there are many people around 450 and this gets higher once the score is below 450. So unless, they increase the quota it is kind of difficult for the scores to drop. And again this is speculative.