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Hello Members,

I have my ECA done only for my Masters, with no mention of Bachelors degree.
Does anyone has any idea whether it is OK for the application.
Has anyone submitted the similar kind of ECA and obtained PR or have reached an advanced stage of application.
Any help is highly appreciated.

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OMSAIOM
 

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omsaiom said:
Hello Members,

I have my ECA done only for my Masters, with no mention of Bachelors degree.
Does anyone has any idea whether it is OK for the application.
Has anyone submitted the similar kind of ECA and obtained PR or have reached an advanced stage of application.
Any help is highly appreciated.

Best Regards
OMSAIOM
ECA needs to be done only for your highest degree. People who have doubts about their Masters generally send both, so in case Masters is not considered equivalent to Canadian Masters, at least Bachelors would be considered. In your case since Masters is considered equivalent to Canadian Masters (as per your ECA Report), you have no cause for concern.

All the best! :)
 

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omsaiom said:
Hello Members,

I have my ECA done only for my Masters, with no mention of Bachelors degree.
Does anyone has any idea whether it is OK for the application.
Has anyone submitted the similar kind of ECA and obtained PR or have reached an advanced stage of application.
Any help is highly appreciated.

Best Regards
OMSAIOM
What does your ECA Report say in terms of the Canadian equivalency of your masters? From your post i am not sure what is it?

If its not equivalent to Masters in Canada, then its better you get your Bachelors also accessed (unless it's from Canada itself) so that you can choose the option of "Two or more degrees/diploma...." to get additional CRS points.
 

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CanadaWeCome said:
What does your ECA Report say in terms of the Canadian equivalency of your masters? From your post i am not sure what is it?

If its not equivalent to Masters in Canada, then its better you get your Bachelors also accessed (unless it's from Canada itself) so that you can choose the option of "Two or more degrees/diploma...." to get additional CRS points.
Yes, this is a valid point. But I am afraid that this will call for additional cost. If it was sent as part of the initial evaluation, both Masters and Bachelors would have been done (in one payment of CAD 322 for outstation candidates).
 

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Stanlee said:
Yes, this is a valid point. But I am afraid that this will call for additional cost. If it was sent as part of the initial evaluation, both Masters and Bachelors would have been done (in one payment of CAD 322 for outstation candidates).
True, If done in one shot, WES doesn't charge extra for an additional degree, but now i am not sure, if you can add an additional degree under the same reference no.

I suggest do write to them if that is possible, else you may need to spend an additional C$322 to receive additional CRS points.

Please do weigh the pros & cons of that, if you feel you have enough CRS to get you an ITA within a month or so then you can skip it, or else go for it, as getting addition ECA done will also take you a month and a half if everything goes well(including the time to get the transcripts in a sealed envelope from the university).
 

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Stanlee said:
ECA needs to be done only for your highest degree. People who have doubts about their Masters generally send both, so in case Masters is not considered equivalent to Canadian Masters, at least Bachelors would be considered. In your case since Masters is considered equivalent to Canadian Masters (as per your ECA Report), you have no cause for concern.

All the best! :)
Hello Stanley thank-you for your reply.
My Masters is considered as equivalent to Masters in Canada. I also received an ITA. Only concern is that VO should not ask that why your Bachelors is not evaluated.
Do you know of any case where similar ECA was obtained and it went through.

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CanadaWeCome said:
True, If done in one shot, WES doesn't charge extra for an additional degree, but now i am not sure, if you can add an additional degree under the same reference no.

I suggest do write to them if that is possible, else you may need to spend an additional C$322 to receive additional CRS points.

Please do weigh the pros & cons of that, if you feel you have enough CRS to get you an ITA within a month or so then you can skip it, or else go for it, as getting addition ECA done will also take you a month and a half if everything goes well(including the time to get the transcripts in a sealed envelope from the university).
Thank you for your reply.
I already received an ITA.
Only doubt being that VO should not ask that where
Is the equivalency of Bachelors.
Do you know of any case where similar ECA was done and it went through without any trouble.

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omsaiom said:
Hello Stanley thank-you for your reply.
My Masters is considered as equivalent to Masters in Canada. I also received an ITA. Only concern is that VO should not ask that why your Bachelors is not evaluated.
Do you know of any case where similar ECA was obtained and it went through.

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OMSAIOM
Congrats on your ITA!

Personally, I do not think, they will ask for it. My assumption is based on the following.

1. As per the statement on CIC, 'The ECA report must show that your completed foreign credential (degree, diploma or certificate) is equal to a completed Canadian secondary school (high school) or post-secondary credential. You must submit an ECA for all levels of completed foreign education you want us to consider. It is up to you to decide which credentials to have assessed by a designated organization.' http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assessment.asp

If I were to infer from the statement 'You must submit an ECA for all levels of completed foreign education you want us to consider', I would look at it this way. You want to claim points for your highest degree, so Masters is what you want them to consider. Based on that you got it assessed and WES came back positive. Also based on my understanding of WES, they do not treat all foreign Masters as Masters, they look at a list of criteria which includes even the admission processes of different colleges. As part of the admission processes, colleges also screen candidates which includes verifying their Bachelor credentials etc. In case your college did not have proper due diligence process during admission, most likely, your Masters would not have been assessed equivalent to Canada Masters.

2. Secondly, you can run both your Masters and Bachelors through WES Credential Equivalency Tool http://www.wes.org/ca/evaluations/preliminary.asp? where you will get an email immediately from WES which shows what your Masters and Bachelors Canadian equivalency is. You can keep a copy of this email ready, in case you are asked.

3. Thirdly, you can always write to WES and ask their opinion. You can write to them here http://www.wes.org/ca/support/. You can keep their response also ready as backup.

If I were you, I would have handled it this way, unless someone can advise me of a better way of handling it. May be you can take a second opinion.

All the best! :)
 

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Any one having/knowing about a real case where similar ECA was submitted and PR ws obtained.
That will help me a lot.

Best Regards,
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omsaiom said:
Any one having/knowing about a real case where similar ECA was submitted and PR ws obtained.
That will help me a lot.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM

ECA for Bachelors degree is not required in your case. Relax and prepare other documents :) Cheers
 

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manpreetdhindsa15 said:
ECA for Bachelors degree is not required in your case. Relax and prepare other documents :) Cheers
Hello Manpreet,

Thank you for your reply.
Do you know of any similar case.
I am worried because recently my one friend was applying for ITA through a local agent and he just vaguely discussed my situation.
The agent told that they have never seen such case (because they always do for Bachelor and Master both) and it might require Bachelor's included.
I was a bit confident before this, but now this has raised confusion in me.
So any real life example will help me relieve of tension.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM
 

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omsaiom said:
Hello Manpreet,

Thank you for your reply.
Do you know of any similar case.
I am worried because recently my one friend was applying for ITA through a local agent and he just vaguely discussed my situation.
The agent told that they have never seen such case (because they always do for Bachelor and Master both) and it might require Bachelor's included.
I was a bit confident before this, but now this has raised confusion in me.
So any real life example will help me relieve of tension.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM
No, In your case it is NOT required.
 

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CanadaWeCome said:
No, In your case it is NOT required.
Hello CanadaWeCome,

Thank you for your reply.
But again the same question, Do you know of any real case with the same situation.

I know it is annoying, but just to confirm.
I am not trying to question anyone here.
I appreciate all the replies that I have got.
But just need to have confirmation to my mind which is still in tension.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM
 

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omsaiom said:
Hello Manpreet,

Thank you for your reply.
Do you know of any similar case.
I am worried because recently my one friend was applying for ITA through a local agent and he just vaguely discussed my situation.
The agent told that they have never seen such case (because they always do for Bachelor and Master both) and it might require Bachelor's included.
I was a bit confident before this, but now this has raised confusion in me.
So any real life example will help me relieve of tension.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM
Hi Omsaiom,

I might not be able to give you exact names at the moment from Forum, but yeah I confirmed the same before submitting my application, I hold Masters in Computer Application(MCA).
I called up CIC, and the CIC agent confirmed that ECA is required for your highest degree.

As far as Immigration Consultants are concerned if you would believe I have interacted with 3 agents, 2 in Delhi and 1 in Punjab, they are of now use if you can read this useful forum. I can proudly say now that I know better than them.
Who would know you better than you, So calm down, don't get stressed listening to agents and friends of friends of friends thing.

Religiously Follow this forum. Thats what I have been doing from past 1.5 years.

Cheers buddy..
 

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omsaiom said:
Hello CanadaWeCome,

Thank you for your reply.
But again the same question, Do you know of any real case with the same situation.

I know it is annoying, but just to confirm.
I am not trying to question anyone here.
I appreciate all the replies that I have got.
But just need to have confirmation to my mind which is still in tension.

Best Regards,
OMSAIOM
I cannot do that because i have not come across any real life situation like you asked. But what i am saying is by logic.

Also while some people quoted CIC/WES website that "ECA Evaluation of highest degree only is required." While it is generally true but that only the partial story (not 100%).

One generally gets his/her highest degree evaluated and if that someone's masters is evaluated as masters then that it's great, but if it is not so and degraded by one level to say...one year PG diploma or Bachelors and that person has another degree/diploma (of at least 3 years), it is to their benefit that they get that evaluated too, so that they can enhance their CRS Score by choosing the option of "Two or more degrees/diploma....etc"

Hope that clarifies...