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[Abuelyas]

Hi Abu
Its not worth going through the legal process. If you think you will not be able to meet the residency take legal advice now and be upfront with the government. Buying property and paying taxes could land you into trouble as you would be classified as a person trying to scam Canada which is not something you want to do as this will be used against you when you apply for citizenship.
Also not sure if you are aware but the day you land in Canada each application is treated independently i.e. if your family stays back and meets the residency quota they can still sponsor you if you lose your PR status
TC
er2d2g

Hey er2d2g,
Thank you for your continuous and valuable advice. In fact, I am not planning to plunge into any legal processes for the reasons you mentioned. What I have come out of, all accounts and considerations made, is that all the members of my family will re-land in Canada in due time, by July/August 2015, which will leave them about 2 years and almost a half before they run any risk, and as it will still be difficult if not impossible for me join them before August,2016. That will leave me only 17 months (less than 730 days!). That's where I won't be able to meet the Residency requirements.
My inquiries are:
- Could I be able to enter Canada then ( even though I will have less than 730 days )?
- What about the Proof of Funds? Will they ask me or my family upon each one's entry again about these funds?
Thanking you infinitely,
Abuelyas

 

[rizmayo]

Hi Abu
Its not worth going through the legal process. If you think you will not be able to meet the residency take legal advice now and be upfront with the government. Buying property and paying taxes could land you into trouble as you would be classified as a person trying to scam Canada which is not something you want to do as this will be used against you when you apply for citizenship.
Also not sure if you are aware but the day you land in Canada each application is treated independently i.e. if your family stays back and meets the residency quota they can still sponsor you if you lose your PR status
TC
er2d2g

Hi er2d2g,

Having property in Canada classifies you as having strong ties to Canada for tax purposes (this is not my opinion, but rather the law). If it is clear that he is out of the country and he is not trying to hide it, it will in no way be considered a scam. I believe you are confusing this, with the old practice of people creating virtual presence in Canada, by having someone else use their credit cards, pay taxes on nonexistent jobs, etc. while they were in another country. This scam has stopped because CIC now takes your record of exit and entry from Canadian border agency, rather then take your word for it (as they used to before).

Second point you made is very valid, however many lawyers fail to tell their clients, is that you have to show legal separation from your spouse or in extended cases even show divorce. I know many families now in Canada, who have not been able to get citizenship for the past 6 + years , because the PA has not completed the citizenship requirements.

One of my subordinates (who completed his education from High School to Masters degree in Canada) had to move to Pakistan, after it was deemed that his father could not complete the residency requirements and the family was asked to leave the country. His father's very expensive lawyer said this was an easy case, as all they had to do was submit the divorce papers that any lawyer outside Pakistani courtrooms can draw up for a nominal fee. However due to religious reasons they could not use this as an option.

I am just highlighting the facts and risks, I do however think you are giving very sound advise to Abu and he should seriously consider it.

Regards,

 

[rizmayo]

Hey er2d2g,
Thank you for your continuous and valuable advice. In fact, I am not planning to plunge into any legal processes for the reasons you mentioned. What I have come out of, all accounts and considerations made, is that all the members of my family will re-land in Canada in due time, by July/August 2015, which will leave them about 2 years and almost a half before they run any risk,This is a good idea, However note they will only be able to renew their PR and will have to stay an additional 3 years to apply for citizenship. If they will be staying 2.5 years, better to send them 6 months earlier so they can complete their 3 years required for citizenship now. and as it will still be difficult if not impossible for me join them before August,2016. That will leave me only 17 months (less than 730 days!). That's where I won't be able to meet the Residency requirements.
My inquiries are:
- Could I be able to enter Canada then ( even though I will have less than 730 days )? Yes. at this time (i.e. as per current rules), no one will be bothered to report you if you have over a year to complete your residency requirements. Also if you start spending your summer holidays in Canada before 2016, you will not be far off from achieving your 730 days. However rules are expected to change this year and you may actually be required to stay more then 730 days to complete your residency requirements (but wait and see what the new policy is)
- What about the Proof of Funds? Will they ask me or my family upon each one's entry again about these funds? No. You were only required to show that on your first landing.
Thanking you infinitely,
Abuelyas

 

[er2d2g]

Hi er2d2g,

Having property in Canada classifies you as having strong ties to Canada for tax purposes (this is not my opinion, but rather the law). If it is clear that he is out of the country and he is not trying to hide it, it will in no way be considered a scam. I believe you are confusing this, with the old practice of people creating virtual presence in Canada, by having someone else use their credit cards, pay taxes on nonexistent jobs, etc. while they were in another country. This scam has stopped because CIC now takes your record of exit and entry from Canadian border agency, rather then take your word for it (as they used to before).

Second point you made is very valid, however many lawyers fail to tell their clients, is that you have to show legal separation from your spouse or in extended cases even show divorce. I know many families now in Canada, who have not been able to get citizenship for the past 6 + years , because the PA has not completed the citizenship requirements.

One of my subordinates (who completed his education from High School to Masters degree in Canada) had to move to Pakistan, after it was deemed that his father could not complete the residency requirements and the family was asked to leave the country. His father's very expensive lawyer said this was an easy case, as all they had to do was submit the divorce papers that any lawyer outside Pakistani courtrooms can draw up for a nominal fee. However due to religious reasons they could not use this as an option.

I am just highlighting the facts and risks, I do however think you are giving very sound advise to Abu and he should seriously consider it.

Regards,

Hey Rizmayo
I'm speaking from experience in cases that I'm aware of and as mentioned earlier laws keep changing so was just trying to give cautious advice.
Having a property or more in Canada and not meeting residency will be taken into consideration only if the judge is convinced that Abu and his family are not trying to beat the system - considering that most of the problems have arisen from people who are moved to Canada from the Middle East its better to be safe than sorry - I know a close friend of mine went through the process even though he had close to 800 days because one of the iimmigration officers 'believed' he was trying to cheat the system. He had to go through the legal route and spent considerable time and money to prove something he was not guilty of. Again what went against him was that he moved to Canada from Dubai.
In terms of the second point I think you need to relook at your source as I know of quite a few people where the principal applicant is still working in Dubai and the dependents have already been accepted to apply for citizenship - I'm not sure if the principal applicant declared that he or she is giving up their PR status
The third point is something unfortunate.

I'm just trying to help as best as I can based on advise and experience

TC

er2d2g

 

[rizmayo]

Hey Rizmayo
I'm speaking from experience in cases that I'm aware of and as mentioned earlier laws keep changing so was just trying to give cautious advice.
Having a property or more in Canada and not meeting residency will be taken into consideration only if the judge is convinced that Abu and his family are not trying to beat the system - considering that most of the problems have arisen from people who are moved to Canada from the Middle East its better to be safe than sorry - I know a close friend of mine went through the process even though he had close to 800 days because one of the iimmigration officers 'believed' he was trying to cheat the system. He had to go through the legal route and spent considerable time and money to prove something he was not guilty of. Again what went against him was that he moved to Canada from Dubai.
In terms of the second point I think you need to relook at your source as I know of quite a few people where the principal applicant is still working in Dubai and the dependents have already been accepted to apply for citizenship - I'm not sure if the principal applicant declared that he or she is giving up their PR status
The third point is something unfortunate.

I'm just trying to help as best as I can based on advise and experience

TC

er2d2g

Thanks

Always good to share experiences (whether your own or someone you know), it will help us all become better educated with the system and its unfortunate drawbacks (like what has happened to your friend). However, if it is possible, do ask your friends living in Dubai, who's family has been accepted for citizenship, if they had any issues applying. As I am in contact with 2 families facing this problem in Canada. One friend whose daughters got married after immigrating (managed to sponsor their husbands as well), were able to get citizenship, however the sons (all under 18), were asked to wait till the fathers completed their citizenship requirements.

Regards,

 

[er2d2g]

Thanks

Always good to share experiences (whether your own or someone you know), it will help us all become better educated with the system and its unfortunate drawbacks (like what has happened to your friend). However, if it is possible, do ask your friends living in Dubai, who's family has been accepted for citizenship, if they had any issues applying. As I am in contact with 2 families facing this problem in Canada. One friend whose daughters got married after immigrating (managed to sponsor their husbands as well), were able to get citizenship, however the sons (all under 18), were asked to wait till the fathers completed their citizenship requirements.

Regards,

Will do

 

[Abuelyas]

Dear Seniors er2d2g and rizmayo,
Thank you both for your earnest and precious advice. You both seem to be more knowledgeable than I am, but I assure u that I have grasped the gist of both your opinions, though not much diverging. I promise I will consider them. I am very grateful to you and to quite many Seniors whose guidance was really useful to me ever since I started my procedures and become a member in this forum. As you may have already noticed, my posts are rather limited due to the conditions of my present overloaded work. However, I heartily appreciate what people are doing round here. I am positive many people have benefited a lot from this forum (just as I did and still am doing) and from committed Seniors like you, devoting themselves to helping others who are in real need.
Once again, MILLION thanks.
I still have a lot of queries, though, shouldn't anyone mind my bothering:
I arbitrarily chose to land in Toronto and stayed in Mississauga for those 3 weeks. I discovered that life beautiful there, but generally quite expensive , although it was reasonably in proximity to different other areas like Toronto downtown, Brampton, Oakville, Etobicoke and many others.
My question is: Which kinda cheap area in terms of rent and life in general, yet provides job opportunities would you recommend?
Thanking you in advance, please bear it up with me and accept my best regards.
Abuelyas

 

[rizmayo]

Dear Seniors er2d2g and rizmayo,
Thank you both for your earnest and precious advice. You both seem to be more knowledgeable than I am, but I assure u that I have grasped the gist of both your opinions, though not much diverging. I promise I will consider them. I am very grateful to you and to quite many Seniors whose guidance was really useful to me ever since I started my procedures and become a member in this forum. As you may have already noticed, my posts are rather limited due to the conditions of my present overloaded work. However, I heartily appreciate what people are doing round here. I am positive many people have benefited a lot from this forum (just as I did and still am doing) and from committed Seniors like you, devoting themselves to helping others who are in real need.
Once again, MILLION thanks.
I still have a lot of queries, though, shouldn't anyone mind my bothering:
I arbitrarily chose to land in Toronto and stayed in Mississauga for those 3 weeks. I discovered that life is generally expensive in that area, although it was reasonably in proximity to different other areas like Toronto downtown, Brampton, Oakville, Etobicoke and many others.
My question is: Which kinda cheap area in terms of rent and life in general, yet provides job opportunities would you recommend?
Thanking you in advance, please bear it up with me and accept my best regards.
Abuelyas

Hi

Apart from neighborhood, shops and market within walking distance, etc. there are two divergent opinions on where one should live. The first opinion is that you should choose a place close to where you work, to save time and money on the commute. The second opinion is that you should get your family settled in to a place of comfort (close to your community, are they are comfortable in, good schools, etc.) and commute to wherever your job takes you.

While many people choose option 1 when first moving to Canada, generally you will find most people opting for option 2 once they are more settled in. Why do you ask this happens? While the benefit of a short commute sounds very attractive at first, you will soon realize that not many Canadians stick to the same job till retirement. There are a lot of odd jobs and contract jobs out there, plus the option to jump to higher salary by job switching and then there are jobs that have you visiting different parts of the city all day. So while you may be working in Mississauga for the first 6 months, you may find a better opportunity in Scarborough in the 7th month. It does not make sense to move your family around with you based on your job. Also once you save up, you will soon want to buy your own house (or may want to do it from day one), this will also restrict your ability to live close to the workplace each time you change a job.

Apart from large corporate jobs, you can find a job in your field in most of the suburbs in Greater Toronto Area.

If you are going to leave your family alone in Canada, you may consider an apartment over a house for the period they are alone at least. Advantages include not having the feeling of being alone, better heating, maintenance is the responsibility of the property management company, building security and my favorite: not having to shovel snow off your driveway in the morning

I found these 2 property managers to be reliable (but there are many others out there):
http://kaneff.com/
http://www.oxfordresidential.ca/

Sorry I don't know your budget, so am providing generic advice. If saving money is the goal, you may want to consider a basement in someones house.

Regards,

 

[SMSH]

Hi

Apart from neighborhood, shops and market within walking distance, etc. there are two divergent opinions on where one should live. The first opinion is that you should choose a place close to where you work, to save time and money on the commute. The second opinion is that you should get your family settled in to a place of comfort (close to your community, are they are comfortable in, good schools, etc.) and commute to wherever your job takes you.

While many people choose option 1 when first moving to Canada, generally you will find most people opting for option 2 once they are more settled in. Why do you ask this happens? While the benefit of a short commute sounds very attractive at first, you will soon realize that not many Canadians stick to the same job till retirement. There are a lot of odd jobs and contract jobs out there, plus the option to jump to higher salary by job switching and then there are jobs that have you visiting different parts of the city all day. So while you may be working in Mississauga for the first 6 months, you may find a better opportunity in Scarborough in the 7th month. It does not make sense to move your family around with you based on your job. Also once you save up, you will soon want to buy your own house (or may want to do it from day one), this will also restrict your ability to live close to the workplace each time you change a job.

Apart from large corporate jobs, you can find a job in your field in most of the suburbs in Greater Toronto Area.

If you are going to leave your family alone in Canada, you may consider an apartment over a house for the period they are alone at least. Advantages include not having the feeling of being alone, better heating, maintenance is the responsibility of the property management company, building security and my favorite: not having to shovel snow off your driveway in the morning

I found these 2 property managers to be reliable (but there are many others out there):
http://kaneff.com/
http://www.oxfordresidential.ca/

Sorry I don't know your budget, so am providing generic advice. If saving money is the goal, you may want to consider a basement in someones house.

Regards,

+1 for you brother... for good work on this forum.... I can see you are very active and helping many ....
Only Allah can give you reward for this and I wish you a successful future in Canada

 

[pithuda]

Hi Everyone.

Logged in the forum today after two years. Medicals were done in april 2012 and since then background checks never completed and medical expired.

I have received interview call at London today but I have asked them to schedule it for UAE instead. They gave me a date of 25th february at London. Do they expect people to fly to London (arrange visa so quickly) for interview?

Any tips for interview? And what does an interview call after medical means? Does that mean they might reject my application at this stage? Is interview call after medical expiry a bad thing?

Interview email says the purpose is to determine " whether you meet the criteria for admission to Canada in the category in which you have applied. "
DOes that sound good or bad?

 

[er2d2g]

Dear Seniors er2d2g and rizmayo,
Thank you both for your earnest and precious advice. You both seem to be more knowledgeable than I am, but I assure u that I have grasped the gist of both your opinions, though not much diverging. I promise I will consider them. I am very grateful to you and to quite many Seniors whose guidance was really useful to me ever since I started my procedures and become a member in this forum. As you may have already noticed, my posts are rather limited due to the conditions of my present overloaded work. However, I heartily appreciate what people are doing round here. I am positive many people have benefited a lot from this forum (just as I did and still am doing) and from committed Seniors like you, devoting themselves to helping others who are in real need.
Once again, MILLION thanks.
I still have a lot of queries, though, shouldn't anyone mind my bothering:
I arbitrarily chose to land in Toronto and stayed in Mississauga for those 3 weeks. I discovered that life beautiful there, but generally quite expensive , although it was reasonably in proximity to different other areas like Toronto downtown, Brampton, Oakville, Etobicoke and many others.
My question is: Which kinda cheap area in terms of rent and life in general, yet provides job opportunities would you recommend?
Thanking you in advance, please bear it up with me and accept my best regards.
Abuelyas

Hey Abu

I think you have got great advice from Rizmayo so i'll just add my 2 bits.

I completely agree with Rizmayo on the area where you choose to stay. Find a place where schools are walking distance ( especially for snow days like tday when the buses are not running but schools are open). Look for areas close to public transport, Smart centres, convenience stores etc.
If you are going to come in later you should make sure things are quite comfortable for your family.
One thing I would like to add is if you have the resources look at buying instead of renting as the mortgage will probably work out cheaper and if you invest in a big house you can rent the basement out and pay off more than half your mortgage. ( I would look at a condo townhouse instead of a standalone home - so it will still be your own home and not an apartment in a building but you will be part of a community so more security for your family)
One word of caution do a lot of research on the area you decide to settle in. Dont compromise just to get a lower price.Choose an area where you see yourself living for a couple of years or even settle down for life.

Jobs here are a different ball game. You will realise this when you come down and start looking for jobs. Some people get their dream job in a couple of months some struggle even after a year but there is work available if you are open to picking up odd jobs/contract jobs till you find something you like.

Hope this helps
er2d2g

 

[msaleem216]

@: pithuda

well come bro

u r not one many pple called for interview follow this link all like u join us

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/interview-call-from-lvo-in-abu-dhabi-t180658.0.html

 

[Ali78]

Hi to all

Yesterday got PP request from Abudhabi. Thanks to all the forum members. Although I am not very regular here but the help provided on this forum contributed immensely in getting things understand and proceeding accordingly.

A small question if someone who is in same boat.

For submitting passports to abudhabi, kindly, pls confirm following procedure:

1- take 3 pictures of each person
2- put along with email , the pictures , and passport in envelope, pay to aramex for sending the passports to abudhabi embassy.
3- fill out return airway bill at the same time and pay for that too
4- wait for visa to come

I think total cost is AED 100 each per passport for sending and AED 30 for the package as per my inquiry with aramex. If anyone paid less kindly contribute.

 

[nekeol]

Hi to all

Yesterday got PP request from Abudhabi. Thanks to all the forum members. Although I am not very regular here but the help provided on this forum contributed immensely in getting things understand and proceeding accordingly.

A small question if someone who is in same boat.

For submitting passports to abudhabi, kindly, pls confirm following procedure:

1- take 3 pictures of each person
2- put along with email , the pictures , and passport in envelope, pay to aramex for sending the passports to abudhabi embassy.
3- fill out return airway bill at the same time and pay for that too
4- wait for visa to come

I think total cost is AED 100 each per passport for sending and AED 30 for the package as per my inquiry with aramex. If anyone paid less kindly contribute.

Mabrook Dear Ali wish u good luck

 

[Ali78]

Mabrook Dear Ali wish u good luck

Many thanks Nekeol. good luck to you too.