Dual Citizens Will Soon Need a Canadian Passport to Fly to Canada.

[links18]

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/08/18/ottawas-new-air-travel-rule-catches-dual-citizens-by-surprise.html

 

[zardoz]

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/08/18/ottawas-new-air-travel-rule-catches-dual-citizens-by-surprise.html

Makes perfect sense. The USA already does this. Generally, a dual citizen of the USA must enter on their US passport.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality.

 

[keesio]

Right now I present just my NEXUS card to board my flight (to both USA and Canada). For the US I need my passport for the Global Entry kiosk. But for Canada, the NEXUS kiosk only asks for the NEXUS cad. I wonder if that will change also.

 

[nmclean]

Makes perfect sense. The USA already does this. Generally, a dual citizen of the USA must enter on their US passport.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

Simply because other countries do the same does not automatically mean it makes sense at all, let alone for Canada in particular. Canada already has systems in place for identity verification and I see no logical reason to introduce this change other than a money grab. What purpose does a Canadian passport serve that is not already being served? What is special about Canadian dual citizens that is different from Canadian permanent residents that this should be required for one and not the other? Or is Canada going to start issuing passports to PRs now?

 

[keesio]

What is special about Canadian dual citizens that is different from Canadian permanent residents that this should be required for one and not the other? Or is Canada going to start issuing passports to PRs now?

I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passport

 

[thecoolguysam]

I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passport

I think it has always been the case of airlines checking the PR card along with the foreign passport before boarding the flight to Canada. Without valid PR card or valid travel document, they won't let the person board the flight.

 

[keesio]

I think it has always been the case of airlines checking the PR card along with the foreign passport before boarding the flight to Canada. Without valid PR card or valid travel document, they won't let the person board the flight.

Not always. My wife has been able to board with just showing her US passport or NEXUS card. She almost never has to present her PR card at any time when flying back to Canada. Now the question is if the clamp down on that later this fall.

 

[thecoolguysam]

Not always. My wife has been able to board with just showing her US passport or NEXUS card. She almost never has to present her PR card at any time when flying back to Canada. Now the question is if the clamp down on that later this fall.

Hmmmm usually when you have nexus, CBP/CBSA usually don't ask for the additional documentation but they might.

As your wife seems to be a US Citizen and Canadian PR card holder along with nexus card holder, she should always carry her PR card + Nexus card + US Passport in order to travel.

I remember that when I was issued nexus, there was a nexus rules paper stating to carry additional immigration documents like passport etc along with nexus card.

 

[keesio]

I remember that when I was issued nexus, there was a nexus rules paper stating to carry additional immigration documents like passport etc along with nexus card.

Yup, that is true. You must carry a valid passport with your NEXUS card just in case you get sent to secondary. However, they don't make mention of a PR card. Nor do they mention which passport. Just a valid passport. It makes it sound like my wife and I can travel with our NEXUS and US passports (and the she doesn't need her PR card and that I don't need my Canadian passport).

 

[thecoolguysam]

Yup, that is true. You must carry a valid passport with your NEXUS card just in case you get sent to secondary. However, they don't make mention of a PR card. Nor do they mention which passport. Just a valid passport. It makes it sound like my wife and I can travel with our NEXUS and US passports (and the she doesn't need her PR card and that I don't need my Canadian passport).

True, there are no further details mentioned.

There is a different story for people who are not nexus members and they just have PR card. In that case, they need to carry their PR card along with the Foreign passport.

What I have done is that when I travel by land, I use my nexus along with my enhanced drivers licence(EDL). With EDL, I don't need to carry my Canadian passport.
When I travel by air, i take my nexus and canadian passport.

 

[nmclean]

I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passport

Do you have a source on that? If they stop accepting all other proof of status for PRs, then that would be just as ridiculous. Especially right after eTA was developed to cover validity concerns - ideally, that should be expanded to all travelers instead. A small $7 "cost recovery" charge isn't very profitable though, I suppose - better to force $160 on every dual citizen.

 

[zardoz]

Do you have a source on that? If they stop accepting all other proof of status for PRs, then that would be just as ridiculous. Especially right after eTA was developed to cover validity concerns - ideally, that should be expanded to all travelers instead. A small $7 "cost recovery" charge isn't very profitable though, I suppose - better to force $160 on every dual citizen.

As far as I am aware, the only two acceptable travel documents for boarding an international flight as a PR have been a PR card or a PRTD. The visa-exempt passport was a loophole, well on it's way to being closed. What else were you thinking of?

 

[links18]

As far as I am aware, the only two acceptable travel documents for boarding an international flight as a PR have been a PR card or a PRTD. The visa-exempt passport was a loophole, well on it's way to being closed. What else were you thinking of?

US citizens are exempt from.needing at ETA to enter Canada by air, so theoretically a dual US/Canada citizen can still fly to Canada without Canadian passport.

 

[zardoz]

US citizens are exempt from.needing at ETA to enter Canada by air, so theoretically a dual US/Canada citizen can still fly to Canada without Canadian passport.

Yes, this is the last remaining loophole I think.

 

[thecoolguysam]

I have heard from someone that when a dual citizen (US citizen & other country national like Canada etc) enters USA, they have to show their US Passport rather than other nationality passport else they might face issues while entering USA.