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Does everybody needs IELTS and WES?

gaurav_2172

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Hi Guys

One of my South African-born friend wants to work in Canada, and he is asking me few questions.

- First was, that he is born and brought up with English as his First language. Does he still need to IELTS?
I think, Yes but wanted to do double check.

- Second is WES. I am confident that everyone needs to do WES.
Can someone please confirm.

I am just super conscious before advising anything to my friend.

Regards
G
 

Stanlee

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gaurav_2172 said:
Hi Guys

One of my South African-born friend wants to work in Canada, and he is asking me few questions.

- First was, that he is born and brought up with English as his First language. Does he still need to IELTS?
I think, Yes but wanted to do double check.

- Second is WES. I am confident that everyone needs to do WES.
Can someone please confirm.

I am just super conscious before advising anything to my friend.

Regards
G
Yes, you are correct IELTS and WES assessment needs to be done by your friend. If he studied in Canada, then ECA need not be done.
 

Roopakv

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gaurav_2172 said:
Hi Guys

One of my South African-born friend wants to work in Canada, and he is asking me few questions.

- First was, that he is born and brought up with English as his First language. Does he still need to IELTS?
I think, Yes but wanted to do double check.

- Second is WES. I am confident that everyone needs to do WES.
Can someone please confirm.

I am just super conscious before advising anything to my friend.

Regards
G
Yes absolutely... Unless you have studied in canda WES is mandatory and so is IELTS.
 

ddlykitten

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Roopakv said:
Yes absolutely... Unless you have studied in canda WES is mandatory and so is IELTS.
Is it real true?? I think WES isn't needed for whom applying for CEC. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 

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ddlykitten said:
Is it real true?? I think WES isn't needed for whom applying for CEC. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If you are receiving points for your foreign education, you need to assess that through WES or other organizations accepted by CIC!
 

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WES and IELTS are both mandatory and non negotiable.
 

ddlykitten

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Han said:
If you are receiving points for your foreign education, you need to assess that through WES or other organizations accepted by CIC!
So as long as I don't claim my points for the education outside Canada because I have enough points to receive ITA such as I have a valid LMIA, then I don't need ECA if I am eligible for CEC, right? Then how come ECA is mandatory for both FSW and CEC?
 

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ddlykitten said:
So as long as I don't claim my points for the education outside Canada because I have enough points to receive ITA such as I have a valid LMIA, then I don't need ECA if I am eligible for CEC, right? Then how come ECA is mandatory for both FSW and CEC?

true ECA is not mandatory as long as you are not claiming your points.


ask your friend he is coming as a PR or on work permit?
 

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ddlykitten said:
Is it real true?? I think WES isn't needed for whom applying for CEC. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Yes it is not needed provided you are not claiming points for education. Note that this effectively treats you as without any education (in terms of points awarded for CRS).

Since CEC as a program has no requirement for one to have a university degree (but FSW has) you are good to go as long as you score high enough without it.

Usually it is not possible to get an ITA in CEC if you haven't done ECA and neither have an LMIA job or PNP.


However, if you have any of those, and you qualify CEC otherwise (have worked in Canada for a year in a skilled job) you can certainly ignore the degree. Myself and several other friends have done so, but that was mainly because we all were already working LMIA jobs for a couple years on work permits.
 

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ddlykitten said:
So as long as I don't claim my points for the education outside Canada because I have enough points to receive ITA such as I have a valid LMIA, then I don't need ECA if I am eligible for CEC, right? Then how come ECA is mandatory for both FSW and CEC?
You are correct. No points claimed, no ECA required.