Are you suggesting that all doctors and other educated class in poor countries have no future for themselves and their kids! Have they all immigrated to Canada to fill in jobs not compatable with their profession. You can disagree with any openion, but in a polite manner. I respect your openion and views even if I donot fully agree with your above statement
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Obviously you don't respect me enough to answer my question. Would you immigrate if you were in that situation? Can you at least understand why some people do?
Not all educated people in all poor countries have a bad life necessarily and that is why it is up to each person to decide for themselves. It is not up to us to call their choices inappropriate and criticize their decisions.
Canada's immigration system isn't perfect but obviously we can't take everybody and obviously we also need some licensing for certain professions.
The job market in Canada is very fast. Your job may be obsolete tomorrow and you might have to re-train. Nobody here thinks it's a big deal to change your career. Why should we have different standards for immigrants than ourselves?
Not all educated people in all poor countries have a bad life necessarily and that is why it is up to each person to decide for themselves. It is not up to us to call their choices inappropriate and criticize their decisions.
Canada's immigration system isn't perfect but obviously we can't take everybody and obviously we also need some licensing for certain professions.
The job market in Canada is very fast. Your job may be obsolete tomorrow and you might have to re-train. Nobody here thinks it's a big deal to change your career. Why should we have different standards for immigrants than ourselves?
"You are not an immigration lawyer nor do you work for immigration. You donot have the powers to speed up applications nor can you get an AEO,LMO,Puppy or anything else".
How do you say "Canada's immigration system isn't perfect but obviously we (You) can't take everybody and obviously we (YOU) also need some licensing for certain professions."
Is it an openion or a judgement? Lets encourage people to make a wise decisions . good luck LEON
How do you say "Canada's immigration system isn't perfect but obviously we (You) can't take everybody and obviously we (YOU) also need some licensing for certain professions."
Is it an openion or a judgement? Lets encourage people to make a wise decisions . good luck LEON
It would not be correct for me to speak in the singular form because it it not just my opinion. Our government here in Canada has built our immigration system on those policies and these are very common policies for other countries as well. No country that I know of wants to open it's doors to all immigrants and no country that I know of would let a doctor into a hospital or an engineer design a bridge or a building without first verifying their education.ghiaskhan said:
I thinlk now you are on board, I agree and respect your views that immigration to Canada does not entitle professionals to work in their professions until they have qualified for their professional license. Please read my comments on October 03 where I said »
"Receiving Canadian permanent resident status does not mean that you can immediately start working in your occupation ie doctor/Engineer/lawyer etc. Some professions and trades are "regulated occupations." Each regulated occupation has an association or government body that sets standards of practice and assesses qualifications".
"Before you can work they must grant you a licence.
The licensing process will cost you time and money. First contact the organization that regulates your profession. It will assess your qualifications (education and experience) and determine what you must do to be licensed."
"You may be required to take examinations, upgrade your education and do work assignments. Note that the regulatory body may require verified English translations of your educational and other documents. For each profession listed at the bottom of this page there is a "fact sheet" that outlines specific qualification requirements."
"In most of the Canadian provinces, it is against the law to work in certain professions if you are not registered with the regulatory body. For example, you cannot practise medicine without a licence."
In my opening comments I also had mentioned about qualified doctors driving cabs.Is it not unjust that talent of many qualified doctors,engineers & other professionals is being wasted ruthlessly. In corwall/ Toronto I have read many local news papers with pages full of stories mentioning how immigrant professional were feeling after having landed in Canada. Just ask a few of them have they gained a lot or last a lot? I had the opportunity to meet a number of immigrant professionals and found them in deep depression and sadness.
I again say that comments made on this forum are to empower immigrants to make right decisions at the right time and not to see rosey picture of prosperus Canada. Not only immigrants are losing a lot ,Canada is also missing the opportunity to usefuly utilise these professionals and benefit its population by their services. All doctors, engineers and many many qulified professional immigrate to Canada not to become factory workers or taxi drivers. I understand many immigrants after reading my comments will meat their MP's and exert pressure on the Canadian government to review their policies towards immigrant professionals so that sevices of highly qualified immigrant doctors/engineers/pharmacists/scientists are used in the best of Canada and its population.
"Receiving Canadian permanent resident status does not mean that you can immediately start working in your occupation ie doctor/Engineer/lawyer etc. Some professions and trades are "regulated occupations." Each regulated occupation has an association or government body that sets standards of practice and assesses qualifications".
"Before you can work they must grant you a licence.
The licensing process will cost you time and money. First contact the organization that regulates your profession. It will assess your qualifications (education and experience) and determine what you must do to be licensed."
"You may be required to take examinations, upgrade your education and do work assignments. Note that the regulatory body may require verified English translations of your educational and other documents. For each profession listed at the bottom of this page there is a "fact sheet" that outlines specific qualification requirements."
"In most of the Canadian provinces, it is against the law to work in certain professions if you are not registered with the regulatory body. For example, you cannot practise medicine without a licence."
In my opening comments I also had mentioned about qualified doctors driving cabs.Is it not unjust that talent of many qualified doctors,engineers & other professionals is being wasted ruthlessly. In corwall/ Toronto I have read many local news papers with pages full of stories mentioning how immigrant professional were feeling after having landed in Canada. Just ask a few of them have they gained a lot or last a lot? I had the opportunity to meet a number of immigrant professionals and found them in deep depression and sadness.
I again say that comments made on this forum are to empower immigrants to make right decisions at the right time and not to see rosey picture of prosperus Canada. Not only immigrants are losing a lot ,Canada is also missing the opportunity to usefuly utilise these professionals and benefit its population by their services. All doctors, engineers and many many qulified professional immigrate to Canada not to become factory workers or taxi drivers. I understand many immigrants after reading my comments will meat their MP's and exert pressure on the Canadian government to review their policies towards immigrant professionals so that sevices of highly qualified immigrant doctors/engineers/pharmacists/scientists are used in the best of Canada and its population.
Leon I am sure you can now appreciate that my comment was not a judgement but an opening statement for discussion and views of higly qualified professionals who have immigrated or for those who are intending to immigrate. The objective of my comments was also to empower those who have immigrated or those who are looking forward to immigrate so that they make right decisions at right time and not to crib or repend later on. Lets help them , so that they do not lose their identity,dignity & self esteem . God bless you.
Are you saying Canada wants poor people from poor coiuntries. Please read the following requirements for skilled workers.
* Your application to come to Canada as a skilled worker will be assessed on six selection factors and a point system. The six selection factors are:
**your education
***your abilities in English and/or French, Canada’s two official languages
****your experience
*****your age
whether you have arranged employment in Canada
your adaptability.
******You must also show that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependants after you arrive in Canada, and pass a medical examination and security and criminal checks.
I say Canada needs respectable,educated and financially balanced people & must utilise their abilities,education,experiance and strengts in the best interest of Canada and Canadian citizens
* Your application to come to Canada as a skilled worker will be assessed on six selection factors and a point system. The six selection factors are:
**your education
***your abilities in English and/or French, Canada’s two official languages
****your experience
*****your age
whether you have arranged employment in Canada
your adaptability.
******You must also show that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependants after you arrive in Canada, and pass a medical examination and security and criminal checks.
I say Canada needs respectable,educated and financially balanced people & must utilise their abilities,education,experiance and strengts in the best interest of Canada and Canadian citizens
I don't get what you are on about. You already said you think it's inappropriate for people to work a lower job than their education. So what do you propose they do? Somebody who is a medical doctor should never be able to immigrate anywhere because they can't do that job right away in a new country?
Have a broader vision please. I again say Canada needs respectable,educated and financially balanced people & must utilise their abilities,education,experiance and strengts in the best interest of Canada and Canadian citizens.
If they need factory workers and cab drivers, they should not encourage higly educated professionals for such jobs. Only labour class immigration should be cosidered.
"If you still don't understand God may help you to understand", however I am sure educated and respected immigrants and those who are considering to migrate are surely capable to understand my point of view.
If they need factory workers and cab drivers, they should not encourage higly educated professionals for such jobs. Only labour class immigration should be cosidered.
"If you still don't understand God may help you to understand", however I am sure educated and respected immigrants and those who are considering to migrate are surely capable to understand my point of view.
I am at a loss for words. You must be very young or very privileged. Maybe both.
I ask you to understand that other peoples reality may not be the same as yours. You should not judge them for the decisions they may have to make. Put yourself in their shoes.
Nobody is encouraging doctors to come to Canada and work in factories. I have no idea where you got that from.
I am not continuing this discussion any further.
I ask you to understand that other peoples reality may not be the same as yours. You should not judge them for the decisions they may have to make. Put yourself in their shoes.
Nobody is encouraging doctors to come to Canada and work in factories. I have no idea where you got that from.
I am not continuing this discussion any further.
For all readers;Shallow Knowledge is always dangerous.
It is safer to read official information about Canadian Immigration available at various official web sites. Please note that you may get cofused by spoon feeding. Its in your best interest to be clear, before you decide to apply for immigration to Canada. Donot be impressed by **** alongside the name of a participant on this forum. Partcipants are not necessarily law experts
lawyers or immigration specialist.
The objective of this forum is to empower people. After reading discussions on this forum please do visit www.cic.gc.ca. Always depend upon first hand /origional information that can be obtained from Canadian Embassies/High commissions and other CIC offices in all countries.
In case of doubt consult a Barrister/Lawyer, there are many and can render free telephone ge is always dangerous.
It is safer to read official information about Canadian Immigration available at various official web sites. Please note that you may get cofused by spoon feeding. Its in your best interest to be clear, before you decide to apply for immigration to Canada. Donot be impressed by **** alongside the name of a participant on this forum. Partcipants are not necessarily law experts
lawyers or immigration specialist.
The objective of this forum is to empower people. After reading discussions on this forum please do visit www.cic.gc.ca. Always depend upon first hand /origional information that can be obtained from Canadian Embassies/High commissions and other CIC offices in all countries.
In case of doubt consult a Barrister/Lawyer, there are many and can render free telephone ge is always dangerous.
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I wanted to weigh in on the debate,2 Filipina Doctors who are now working in the Sunshine Coast Area of B.C as nurses,Life in Philippines Combined Household income of about 1,200$ a month,1 second hand 6 year old car,crowded 50 sqm condo. Nurses in Sunshine Combined Income of 9,000$ Monthly,2 cars plus SUV,4 Bedroom Home on half acre lot,Vacations, and planning to buy a a boat.Now tell me it was wrong for them to give up being doctors in the Philippines and become nurses in BC.They are so thankful that they are living in a beautiful place and SUPERIOR quality of life.I helped them get the position with Coastal Health and as people who have dealt with me off board can confirm,I work for the BC goverment helping people in my job and Yes a lower skill job in Canada is preferable to a higher skilled job in the third world,Remember a Doctor in Cuba gets about 100$ a MONTH,So telling a Cuban Doctor that becoming a 2000$ per month security guard is a bad choice is not exactly acceptable to the Doctor.He will become a Security guard in a Heartbeat
I say she should go there as a assistant for now, amount out the licensing if she gets there. You can go with her on an accessible conjugal plan admittance if you want.
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