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verystressed

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Hello every one I am very stressed about my situation after I did my best to make our relationship work and build better future for us .
I trusted my sponsor in every way and made her take my own credit card to make some business with it online and earn profit from it while she is just staying at home but she lost all the money I had in the card $10000 and did pouch me to apply for a new car for her and I am driving just a crappy 98 Honda every day which I am paying for now every month plus interest on the card she spent I am stuck with too much to pay now at once food rent etc...
she is making my life hell every day now she want to have a baby I told her I can't afford a baby right now I have too much to pay for baby needs crib milk dippers room etc . . .
I just got my conditional Pr #51 so the problem now she threatening me if we don't start trying to have a baby right now she will divorce me and contact the CIC the take the Pr from me I am very depressed I don't know what to do I am working two jobs just to make it even with the bills and the credit I am stuck in now I don't want to have a baby and can't provide for his needs .
I even told her to find a job we could help each other to pay for the credit we have but she refused I am not sure what to do.
Please help
If she requested the divorce and doesn't want to be with me any more I am still a victim of loosing the Pr ?
I love her and wish to have little ones of us but I must make them the right conditions to come into a nice living.
 

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Wow.

My `mountain' of problems just shrank to the size of a speed bump.

The honest answer to the question in your last sentence is...yes, unfortunately.

To clarify, SHE cannot take away your PR. Only CIC can revoke a conditional PR if they have knowledge that the conditions on your PR are no longer being met.
I don't know if there's much that you could do about it, but I hope you find a way to resolve this for your sake.

Maybe the conditions are slightly different for a married couple as opposed to a Common-Law partnership. Common-Law requires you to continue cohabitation.

Does anyone know if a couple that's no longer living together, but not divorced, are in breach of condition 51? If not...maybe she needs to live on her own for a bit to see how far she gets without any source of income...or your bank card.



Best of luck...truly.
 

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Just let her know that if you get divorced she will be legally responsible for half the debt. And you will get half of her new car while she will get half of your crappy car. Plus she will have to work.

It doesn't make sense for her to divorce you. She is justy trying to bully you. You are the man so start acting like one. Only you are working, so you control the fiances, so you decide 100% how those fiances are spent. Sell/return her car and buy her a bus pass. Dont give her any money for anything. If you have a join bank account, make a new bank account in your name and have your paychecks deposited there. If you have joint creditcards cancel them.

Dont give in, dont let her scare you with taking away your PR. You need to be firm and strong and show no fear. Women actually like a strong fearless man who knows how to take control. She is a new wife who is just testin g her new husband to see how easy he is to manipulate. If you win this fight, she will love you more for it.
 

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steerpike said:
Dont give in, dont let her scare you with taking away your PR. You need to be firm and strong and show no fear. Women actually like a strong fearless man who knows how to take control. She is a new wife who is just testin g her new husband to see how easy he is to manipulate. If you win this fight, she will love you more for it.
Can we not speak in stereotypes when answering a question?
 

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MapleLeafBride said:
Can we not speak in stereotypes when answering a question?
Sorry, it should say "some women" not "women".

Would you care to offer your advice to the gentleman on what he should do in this difficult situation? Or are you just here to nitpick over silly things?
 

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Ponga said:
Does anyone know if a couple that's no longer living together, but not divorced, are in breach of condition 51? If not...maybe she needs to live on her own for a bit to see how far she gets without any source of income...or your bank card.



Best of luck...truly.
Unfortunately, the condition states that the couple should be living together in a legitimate relationship for two years from the day of receiving PR. In OP's case the following might apply and his PR may not be revoked if the situation intensifies at home and things don't work out.
Exception in cases of abuse or neglect
Given concerns about the vulnerability of spouses in abusive relationships, the proposed condition would cease to apply in instances where there is evidence of abuse (that is, physical, sexual, psychological or financial) or neglect (failure to provide the necessaries of life).
Source: www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp
 

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I hope everything works out for you, but realistically you should plan for having to defend your PR in court. Perhaps under the psychological or financial abuse clause. That means keeping very good records of everything manupulative your wife does. Dates and times and specific statement she has made. Such as threatening to get your PR taken away if you refuse to impregnant her.

Hopefully it wont come to that, but just in case, you would be wise to start keeping records now.

Good luck.
 

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Yes, start keeping track of any threats or abuse. If these happen in around others, keep in mind of any witnesses and see if they can back you up when needed. This is your best chance to defend your PR status.