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Fencesitter

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Sep 29, 2011
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Hong Kong
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Pre-Assessed..
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April 13, 2012
AOR Received.
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File Transfer...
July 13, 2012
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Mar 1, 2012
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Aug 28, 2012
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Sept 24, 2012
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Jan 30, 2013
I just read a bunch of posts on some other sites about Canadians sponsoring Chinese. I have to say that I am at an all time low in terms of the whole immigration thing. Now I feel as though I have no hope and I will be trapped in China forever - I'll never leave my family!!

Every time I start to write something to answer one of the questions on the forms, I start to second guess myself. I feel that no matter how legitimate my situation is, the VO won't even bother reading what I right and automatically deny my wife because of where she comes from. Even though we have a son, whom we adore and love, the VO will deny, deny, deny. Why do I have to go through this? I am Canadian. I want to get out of China so badly...I have written all the reasons why I want to live in Canada, but no matter what I write I feel like the VO will deny us. I feel that we are facing a huge battle!

Now I read about getting a letter of release! Great, so all my plans to save during the processing time is shot down before it even started. If I let my employer know, I have a strong feeling they will replace me. My contract has a 1 month notice clause...I am sure they will use it. Can I refuse to provide a letter of release until I know what is happening with my visa, on the grounds that I have a child to care for, and if I tell my employer now, I will lose my job and my child will be at risk. Should I get a lawyer????

I'm depressed...just as I think my case looks great and I'm finished with the forms, something new pops up to spoil everything...this stinks.

FS
 

parker24

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Nov 26, 2011
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Visa Office......
Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-03-2012
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05-06-2012
Med's Done....
16-11-2011
Passport Req..
16-11-2012
LANDED..........
04-01-2013
Now I don't know what this "letter of release" is but I will say this. Immigration is a huge leap of faith and a huge leap of any kind no matter what. It's a risk, there's always a risk.

Someone else can try to explain the letter of release thing, but I thought I'd tell you from my perspective that immigration is a risk and a leap and I'm sure you'll agree when I say that our families are worth it. :)
 

canadianwoman

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Nov 6, 2009
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Accra, Ghana
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30-01-2008
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05-05-2009
I really don't think you and your wife will have any problems getting her a PR visa. From what you've written of your relationship, it sounds like you have solid proof of a long-term relationship. Many people who sponsor a spouse have never lived with their partner, and have only had a short relationship, but still get accepted by CIC.
And also, when people do have trouble with immigration, they often blame CIC for racism - and this may or may not be true in any particular case. (I do think that in my own case our visa officer was racist, but I also realize I might be wrong.) Cases you read about may or may not have all the details fully disclosed.

Keep in mind as well, that though many people may think CIC treats Chinese applicants badly, actually the government has stated that it prefers immigrants from China and India. She is far less likely to be denied because of where she is from than an applicant from Africa or the Caribbean, for example.
 

CharlieD10

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Sep 5, 2010
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KGN
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15-02-2011
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09-05-2011
Med's Done....
17-01-2011, 08-03-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
30-3-2012
VISA ISSUED...
13-04-2012
LANDED..........
06-06-2012
I had to accept that we were facing an uphill battle, given I'm Jamaican and Canada isn't exactly begging us to come there! Everything I read basically said, this isn't somewhere you'll be welcomed with open arms. It didn't help that on one return from Jamaica, my husband was told flat out by a Customs officer at the airport, "Good luck getting her here, Jamaica isn't exactly priority right now."

Still, having added up all the pros and cons of our life and relationship, we knew we had to do it. So we buckled down, did the research, put the best application we could together, and hoped for the best. I also put aside all hopes of speedy processing and set my mind for the long haul. I'm not saying I don't silently moan to myself when I see someone going through another visa office get through before me, knowing that they are preferred immigrants because of where they are from. The process is what it is, and I am who I am, and neither of those things changes.

Believe in the strength of your relationship, and that a discerning visa officer will see you are genuine and interested in the best for your family. Complete the best application you can, and then live your lives as best you can, with a sense of hopeful anticipation that all will be as it should be.
 

mc1234

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Aug 30, 2011
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Visa Office......
Mexico City
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-04-2012
Doc's Request.
20/08/2012 - PGR and SSP
AOR Received.
Ottawa: 23/07/2012 Mexico City: 20/08/2012
File Transfer...
24/07/2012
Med's Done....
12-04-2012
Interview........
Waived!
Passport Req..
08-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...
15-11-2012
LANDED..........
23-11-2012
I completely understand how you feel. A few days ago the Mexican Federal Government changed a rule that would mean A LOT of us applying for our spouses would have to wait TWO years to obtain this document.. the next day they changed it back with a lot of complaints, but still - it is a risk going forward with the application b/c of this, they can change the rules at any moment.. which is a scary thought. We have also gone to the moon and back trying to get all the documents ready for this, it is a huge leap. If my SO got denied, it would literally change our whole life plan. You just have to have faith in the process.. Even when you feel like there is no hope. I think if you have proof the relationship is genuine, have lived together, etc then you have a far greater chance of being accepted. I know people who married their spouse after 7 months, visited them 2-3 times, 1 or 2 weeks at a time from countries that are a little more 'known' (whatever that means) to use people for PR visas, and they still got their spouse here within a year.

My advice to you is for right now, look of it as a step-by-step thing, rather than the whole picture.. If we always looked at the big picture, we wouldn't do anything. Just take it day by day.. and before you know it, you will be at the end.

All the best to you!
 

mc1234

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Aug 30, 2011
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Mexico City
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-04-2012
Doc's Request.
20/08/2012 - PGR and SSP
AOR Received.
Ottawa: 23/07/2012 Mexico City: 20/08/2012
File Transfer...
24/07/2012
Med's Done....
12-04-2012
Interview........
Waived!
Passport Req..
08-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...
15-11-2012
LANDED..........
23-11-2012
CharlieD10 said:
I had to accept that we were facing an uphill battle, given I'm Jamaican and Canada isn't exactly begging us to come there! Everything I read basically said, this isn't somewhere you'll be welcomed with open arms. It didn't help that on one return from Jamaica, my husband was told flat out by a Customs officer at the airport, "Good luck getting her here, Jamaica isn't exactly priority right now."

Still, having added up all the pros and cons of our life and relationship, we knew we had to do it. So we buckled down, did the research, put the best application we could together, and hoped for the best. I also put aside all hopes of speedy processing and set my mind for the long haul. I'm not saying I don't silently moan to myself when I see someone going through another visa office get through before me, knowing that they are preferred immigrants because of where they are from. The process is what it is, and I am who I am, and neither of those things changes.

Believe in the strength of your relationship, and that a discerning visa officer will see you are genuine and interested in the best for your family. Complete the best application you can, and then live your lives as best you can, with a sense of hopeful anticipation that all will be as it should be.
Wow charlie, I can't believe they said that to your husband, how awful :(
 

missmini

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Oct 6, 2009
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Amman
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01-2012
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AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
hiii Fencesitter :)
oooh u know i feel it's me who wrote this maybe one year ago...back then i started putting together our application and reading so much here but not only reading, this forum was like a bible to me!!! which is wrong!!! in every negative experience i was seeing something which could happen to us too!!! i was seeing differences i didn't even think abt before!!! i was soo open abt things related to our situation that some members sent me PM telling me rudely that i have no chance, cuz it's not "normal" like this and like that and we should try other routes!!! i was crying every night...yes our relationship and way of life is not the "custom" one for this region but that has nothing to do with our feelings....i guess if someone can see the whole picture they will understand better our decisions and our life and hardships till now....so my first advice is don't take black on white everything u read: u don't know the full picture and each case looks perfect and genuine but each case is different :) just trust ur self, trust ur marrige, trust ur love and u will succeed :)

yeah so after i started to read less from here and tried to get some sleep to actually focus more on putting our package together and i am so proud of our work...i don't think someone not genuine will put so much work, time, the whole heart in preparing it...and actually all the discouragements, comments helped me to address them; we literally tried to explain everything, the best we could!! i don't think a lawyer could have done it better!! u r the one who knows the best ur life ;)

yes we just started but no matter the final result i'm so happy we did; the most important is to take ur chance, hope for the best but try to prepare urself for the worst too...me too i don't want to live here anymore, i miss Canada, my family, friends tooooo much but i'll never go back without him....u have a son, just enjoy the family time and live ur life and the expected answer will come....by the way they don't deny without an interview and u don't need to go there depressed - u'll b a team, u both need to trust urselves and it will b fine!!! :)

abt the letter of release, me too i have no clue....but take it a step at a time...there r other ways to proof ur return to Canada...and when (if) the VO will ask for it it probably means that the visa is ready to be issued :) best of luck!!
 

AmandaHsu

Hero Member
Jan 10, 2011
309
5
Nanaimo
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01/Nov/2010
Doc's Request.
None
AOR Received.
20/Dec/2010
File Transfer...
None
Med's Done....
10/Aug/2010
LANDED..........
02/Apr/2012
I don't really think that you have to provide the release letter from your employer. As I know, as long as you provide "enough evidence" that you and your family are planning to come back Canada; such as "where to live, how to make money for living....". Also, beside release letter from your employer, you can provide release letter from other place, like post office (tell them you're moving, then they won't send you letter to the current address after that, but I don't know if post office in China has this service or not), or from bank (showing you're closing your bank account because you're going to leave), anything that can help you to prove that "you're going to move back to Canada". Also please provide a letter with your application, to explain why you can't provide a letter from employer, I believe CIC will understand. Good luck.....
 

Americana In T.O.

Star Member
Jan 25, 2012
169
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Mexico City
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02/12/2011
AOR Received.
10/04/2012
File Transfer...
30/01/2012
Med's Done....
01/10/2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
01/08/2012
VISA ISSUED...
21/08/2012
LANDED..........
24/08/2012 YAY!!!
missmini said:
hiii Fencesitter :)
oooh u know i feel it's me who wrote this maybe one year ago...back then i started putting together our application and reading so much here but not only reading, this forum was like a bible to me!!! which is wrong!!! in every negative experience i was seeing something which could happen to us too!!! i was seeing differences i didn't even think abt before!!! i was soo open abt things related to our situation that some members sent me PM telling me rudely that i have no chance, cuz it's not "normal" like this and like that and we should try other routes!!! i was crying every night...yes our relationship and way of life is not the "custom" one for this region but that has nothing to do with our feelings....i guess if someone can see the whole picture they will understand better our decisions and our life and hardships till now....so my first advice is don't take black on white everything u read: u don't know the full picture and each case looks perfect and genuine but each case is different :) just trust ur self, trust ur marrige, trust ur love and u will succeed :)

yeah so after i started to read less from here and tried to get some sleep to actually focus more on putting our package together and i am so proud of our work...i don't think someone not genuine will put so much work, time, the whole heart in preparing it...and actually all the discouragements, comments helped me to address them; we literally tried to explain everything, the best we could!! i don't think a lawyer could have done it better!! u r the one who knows the best ur life ;)

yes we just started but no matter the final result i'm so happy we did; the most important is to take ur chance, hope for the best but try to prepare urself for the worst too...me too i don't want to live here anymore, i miss Canada, my family, friends tooooo much but i'll never go back without him....u have a son, just enjoy the family time and live ur life and the expected answer will come....by the way they don't deny without an interview and u don't need to go there depressed - u'll b a team, u both need to trust urselves and it will b fine!!! :)

abt the letter of release, me too i have no clue....but take it a step at a time...there r other ways to proof ur return to Canada...and when (if) the VO will ask for it it probably means that the visa is ready to be issued :) best of luck!!
Hi Missmini,

I agree with a lot of what you said. Especially about some of the members making discouraging statements. For me, the most important thing is to have a pure heart and conscience and to always believe in yourself and believe in the love that you have as a couple. Out of this comes extraordinary strength that no one can take away from you.
 

Isometry

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Aug 18, 2011
494
11
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Visa Office......
Buffalo-->Seattle
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Oct 28 2011
File Transfer...
Jan 9 2012-->Feb 9 2012
Med's Done....
Sept 19 2011
Passport Req..
March 21 2012
VISA ISSUED...
April 21 2012
LANDED..........
May 17th 2012
I really like this table for reassurance. It's showing spouses applying through Beijing as having an 83% approval rate, and that 50% of applications there are done in 3 months!

As others have stated, you seem to have a genuine relationship and good solid proof, so you should be fine.
 

Fencesitter

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Sep 29, 2011
1,761
52
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Visa Office......
Hong Kong
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 13, 2012
AOR Received.
AOR2 July 25, 2012
File Transfer...
July 13, 2012
Med's Done....
Mar 1, 2012
Interview........
WAIVED!
Passport Req..
Aug 28, 2012
VISA ISSUED...
Sept 24, 2012
LANDED..........
Jan 30, 2013
Do you have a link for the Hong Kong visa office?

Still, those statistics are encouraging.

Thanks for that...

FS
 

missmini

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Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
Americana In T.O. said:
Hi Missmini,

I agree with a lot of what you said. Especially about some of the members making discouraging statements. For me, the most important thing is to have a pure heart and conscience and to always believe in yourself and believe in the love that you have as a couple. Out of this comes extraordinary strength that no one can take away from you.
that's soooo true...all this experience will make each and every one of us much more stronger and patieeeeeeeeeent ;) and yeah believing in urself and in ur relationship is the most important!!!! :) best of luck for all
 

Fencesitter

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Sep 29, 2011
1,761
52
Category........
Visa Office......
Hong Kong
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 13, 2012
AOR Received.
AOR2 July 25, 2012
File Transfer...
July 13, 2012
Med's Done....
Mar 1, 2012
Interview........
WAIVED!
Passport Req..
Aug 28, 2012
VISA ISSUED...
Sept 24, 2012
LANDED..........
Jan 30, 2013
Cheers, everyone...we'll get through this, because like a friend recently told me "What have you ever failed at that you truly wanted?" I thought a minute, and then it hit me, NOTHING! So, this might be frustrating and difficult at times, but it sure as hell isn't going to break me...we'll be fine...we are a genuine couple with a child...how in the world could we be denied? There is nothing wrong with our application...we have no 'red flags' whatsoever...bring it on CIC!!!
 

CharlieD10

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124
Northern Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
KGN
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-02-2011
File Transfer...
09-05-2011
Med's Done....
17-01-2011, 08-03-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
30-3-2012
VISA ISSUED...
13-04-2012
LANDED..........
06-06-2012

missmini

Champion Member
Oct 6, 2009
1,777
71
Visa Office......
Amman
App. Filed.......
01-2012
Doc's Request.
05-2012 (CSQ approved)
AOR Received.
07-2012
File Transfer...
04-2012
Med's Done....
11-2011 (extended until 11-2013)
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
02-2013 (finalyyyyyy)
LANDED..........
07-2013 (DONE - thank u all :):):))
Fencesitter said:
Cheers, everyone...we'll get through this, because like a friend recently told me "What have you ever failed at that you truly wanted?" I thought a minute, and then it hit me, NOTHING! So, this might be frustrating and difficult at times, but it sure as hell isn't going to break me...we'll be fine...we are a genuine couple with a child...how in the world could we be denied? There is nothing wrong with our application...we have no 'red flags' whatsoever...bring it on CIC!!!
yaaaay that's the spirit ;) if we truly want something we will get it sooner or later.....good luck and keep us updated :)