Dependent get married

[Haidar123]

Hi,

I have a friend of mine who got sponsored by his dad as un-married dependent child below 22 years (as per old regulations). Because the sponsorship application at that time took very long time to get processed he did not wait and get married (unfortunately) only few months before he get the PR visa. When he did landing interview he did not report that he get married and the officer did not ask him if there is a change on his marital status. now his record of landing contain incorrect information as it mentions that he is not married and by the landing time he was actually married, his wife managed later to come to Canada (he did not sponsor his wife but she managed to come to Canada by another way I do not re-call how and she is now a PR). Now he is worried when he submits for PR renewal or for citizenship if the officers would discover this problem?. should he reports this now to CIC or request change in landing paper information or this would put him in a risk of leaving Canada noting that he and his wife are working and have really god jobs?.

 

[scylla]

He committed misrepresentation by stating he was single when he was in fact married - he lied to obtain an immigration benefit. If this lie is discovered, he should expect this PR status / citizenship to be revoked. Whether the lie will actually be caught is anyone's guess.

Since he lied to get PR, his status in Canada will technically never be safe - even once he gets citizenship.

Whether he has a good job or not doesn't matter.

 

[Haidar123]

Thanks I understand the misrepresentation point. I am not sure if he really got a benefit from this lie?, if he had reported at the airport landing interview that he is married, does this would had taken him off his dad application? i.e. they send him back to his country?. I am not sure

 

[scylla]

Thanks I understand the misrepresentation point. I am not sure if he really got a benefit from this lie?, if he had reported at the airport landing interview that he is married, does this would had taken him off his dad application? i.e. they send him back to his country?. I am not sure

He certainly benefited from this lie.

By marrying he no longer qualified as a dependent on his father's application. If he had reported his marriage when he arrived in Canada (as he was legally obligated to), he would have been refused PR. So this lie got him PR status in Canada when he was not entitled to this status. Since a lie got him PR status, the discovery of this lie would naturally result in his PR status being revoked.

 

[canadianwoman]

He should not report this to CIC. By landing as single , he committed misrepresentation. He was no longer eligible to become a PR as a dependant of his father when he landed. If he had been honest he would not be a PR now. If he reports it, he could lose his PR status.

 

[Haidar123]

Thank you guys, now his question is what is the possibility that they discover this lie when he renew or submit for citizenship noting that he already submitted the marriage certificate (with date before landing) to many Canadian governmental offices?

 

[Haidar123]

Sorry I meant to say renew PR or submit for citizenship

 

[canadianwoman]

They may never notice. I would just go ahead, try, and see what happens.

 

[dominokitty]

He should not report this to CIC. By landing as single , he committed misrepresentation. He was no longer eligible to become a PR as a dependant of his father when he landed. If he had been honest he would not be a PR now. If he reports it, he could lose his PR status.

Why are you, as a Canadian, encouraging this? Do you want illegal immigrants in our country? He had a moral duty to notify CIC when he got married and he still has this duty now. If he loses his PR, so be it. He can apply the legal way through his wife (who is now a PR herself through different means) and come back legally if he wants to. And, if CIC doesn't let him, well, he made his bed and now he has to lie in it, in my honest opinion...

I didn't realize this board was so open and encouraging to those who misrepresent themselves and enter Canada under false grounds... I try every day to have faith that the system will work the way it is supposed to for my husband and I, and people like this (who misrepresent themselves) laugh in the face of those of us who choose to do this legally, and extend the time that our families are kept apart. I can not wrap my head around why you would suggest that this person should not report their change in marital status to CIC...

 

[Haidar123]

Well, he told me that the one who advised him no to mention that he get married was the Canadian lawyer who processed their paper work !!. He was not even aware that this would take him off the application at the time of landing !! He was going to say the truth !!

 

[scylla]

I think it's impossible for any of us to say whether he will be caught or not. I think chances are he likely won't.

Hopefully he realizes that he can never sponsor his wife for PR. If the tries to sponsor her, then he will be caught - and not only will his wife's PR status be refused, but he should expect to lose his PR as well.

 

[Rob_TO]

Hopefully he realizes that he can never sponsor his wife for PR. If the tries to sponsor her, then he will be caught - and not only will his wife's PR status be refused, but he should expect to lose his PR as well.

He mentioned the wife already obtained her PR status independently.

I agree that most likely CIC will not discover the misrepresentation, unless someone that knows the situation actually reports him.

 

[Haidar123]

Thank you guys, now I understand from you that chances he will be caught is high if he sponsor somebody but low if he re-new his PR or apply for citizenship

 

[scylla]

He mentioned the wife already obtained her PR status independently.

I agree that most likely CIC will not discover the misrepresentation, unless someone that knows the situation actually reports him.

Ah - my bad.

This does present some interesting problems however. One would have to perpetuate the lie by declaring oneself single in the citizenship application to avoid getting caught and PR revoked. What would one then say in the Canadian passport application? Lie again and declare single? What about other unrelated processes like personal income taxes?

At a minimum, I think you'd have to lie in your citizenship application (as well as any PR card renewals), the initial passport application and any passport renewals. That's quite a bit of fraud to live with...

 

[scylla]

Come to think of it - I'm not sure the citizenship application asks for a marriage date. I think it just asks for your marital status.

Anyway - I have no idea what to recommend.