Dependent child,22 y/o.interrupted studies for a year

[katkian]

Hi,

I'm really worrying b0ut my applicati0n as a dependent child of my dad because im already 22 and I've interrupted my studies for ab0ut a year.

I graduated BSN last march 2009 and decided to st0p studying for a year,for the reas0n that I want to be a full time m0m.

But last June 2010, I enrolled as BS-MEDTECH. And I turned 22 last Aug 4,2010. Our papers was passed to CPC-M last Aug 9,2010.

Do you think I still have the possibility to pass the immigration eventhough im 22 and i interrupted my studies for a year but remain financially dependent to my dad? Will they lo0k for a pro0f that im dependent to my dad?Or being unemployed for a year is an en0ugh pr0of? And do they care about the n0. of units that i have in my present course?

Your reply will be a great help for me!tnx!

 

[Siouxie]

As long as your fathers application with you as a dependant was received by CIC before your 22nd birthday you are "locked in" to that age regardless of how old you are now, or whether you have been in education.

What is the date of receipt from CIC for the application (which is the first CIC office that received it)? It should tell you on Ecas (your Dad will have to log on using his client ID number) which he can access here: https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/?app=ecas&lang=en . He will need his client ID or receipt number to access it.

If the date of receipt is before your birthday you will be locked in to that date no matter how long it takes to process.

If the date of receipt is after your birthday you MUST have been in full time education at the time the application was received and continue to be so, to be able to qualify as a dependant.

So... to reiterate:

If the application was received after your 22nd birthday, but you started a course in June, (before your application was received by CIC) and continue to attend until PR is granted you will be classified as a dependant.

If the application was received by CIC before your 22nd birthday you are locked in regardless.

(To keep your dependant status you cannot marry or live in a common-law relationship).

See also: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

5.4. Lock-in age of dependent children
The lock-in of age for dependent children is the day CPC-M receives a completed IMM 1344AE and correct processing fees. Dependent children must be less than 22 years of age when the sponsorship application is received.
Under 22 years means up to and including the last day before the dependent child's 22nd birthday.
Offices must date-stamp application forms as soon as they are received.

You should also read Section 14: Students (too long to post) if the application was received after your 22nd birthday.

Hope that helps



Edit: They will want proof that you are still in full time education and that you are financially dependant, if your application was received after your 22nd birthday.

You should delete the other duplicated posts!

 

[katkian]

Thanks a lot!! ;D

 

[HoneyBird]

my question though is that she took a year off to be a mom which means that there is a child involved.
So won't she have to now declare the child?

 

[Siouxie]

If she was under 22 at the time of the application being received then she still qualifies as a dependant regardless of if she is in full time studies or not.

I am sure that the child has already been included in the application as it was born prior to the application being submitted and it will be processed as the dependant child of a dependant child.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

5.13. Who qualifies as a dependent child?
R2 and Section 6 in this chapter describe who qualifies as a dependent child.
In order to meet R2(b)(i) of the definition of “dependent child”, a child must be under 22 years of age and not a spouse or common-law partner on the date when the IMM 1344AE is received by CPC-M, and not a spouse or common-law partner when the visa is issued, and when they arrive in Canada.

Not a spouse or common-law partner means that the dependent child must not be married or involved in a common-law relationship. A dependent child who is single, divorced, widowed, or whose marriage has been annulled is not a spouse. Similarly, if the dependent child was involved in a common-law relationship but that relationship no longer exists, they may be considered to meet the definition.

R2(b)(ii) & (iii) describe children over the age of 22 who may be considered dependent children if they are substantially dependent on their parents for financial support. This includes full-time students enrolled in accredited post secondary institutions or children with a physical or mental condition. In such cases, officers must ask for documentary evidence of full time attendance at school, evidence of the institution's accreditation with the relevant authority, evidence of the physical or mental condition and evidence of financial dependency on parents.


Dependent children of dependent children

Is the dependent child of an accompanying dependent child [R70(5)] when the application is received and when the visa is issued

 

[katkian]

Hello every0ne,

My dad passed the application after my 22nd bday. And with my child, we already included him in the application. And I'm a single mom.

For a year that I'm n0t studying will they still ask for evidence that I remained substantially dependent? Or they will only be asking if I am currently enrolled? And since our papers were passed last Aug.9 and recieved it Aug.10, and I'm currently enrolled, they will only ask for evidence that I'm a full time student? Interrupted studies for a year won't be a problem anymore since it's prior to the submission of our application?Or if they ask for evidence if I remained as a dependent for that year what evidence do I need to submit? Is it enough that my dad declares that he's still supporting me even though I'm n0t studying last year? Or I need to have a sworn affidavit stating that I'm still dependent to my dad ?I don't have bank accounts to prove that my dad is giving me money because he only sends money to my mom's account. What other evidences do I need?

And with the full time studies,what does it mean?I'm confused with that. Does it mean to say that to be considered full time I must have all the units? What if the other subjects were credited? I have only 6 units (2 subjects). Is there a problem if I only took 2 subjects?

Thanks for those who replied! And to those who will reply regarding my 2nd batch of questi0ns! ;-D

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hello every0ne,

My dad passed the application after my 22nd bday. And with my child, we already included him in the application. And I'm a single mom.

For a year that I'm n0t studying will they still ask for evidence that I remained substantially dependent? Or they will only be asking if I am currently enrolled? And since our papers were passed last Aug.9 and recieved it Aug.10, and I'm currently enrolled, they will only ask for evidence that I'm a full time student? Interrupted studies for a year won't be a problem anymore since it's prior to the submission of our application?Or if they ask for evidence if I remained as a dependent for that year what evidence do I need to submit? Is it enough that my dad declares that he's still supporting me even though I'm n0t studying last year? Or I need to have a sworn affidavit stating that I'm still dependent to my dad ?I don't have bank accounts to prove that my dad is giving me money because he only sends money to my mom's account. What other evidences do I need?

And with the full time studies,what does it mean?I'm confused with that. Does it mean to say that to be considered full time I must have all the units? What if the other subjects were credited? I have only 6 units (2 subjects). Is there a problem if I only took 2 subjects?

Thanks for those who replied! And to those who will reply regarding my 2nd batch of questi0ns! ;-D

Nope as you say you were over 22 when your father submitted the application, so you would have to been in full time studies since before turning 22 and continued full time until the visa is issued. As you didn't remain in full time studies (took a year break) I think that you will find that you are no longer a dependent and the visa office will request that you be removed from the application.

 

[katkian]

Hell0,

I've read in the gl0ssary under full time studies that an interrupti0n of one year studying will still be considered as a dependent..Is it a reliable info<glossary of terms>? So which is which? Others replied that i'm still c0nsidered as dependent because i'm currently enr0lled and its pri0r the submissi0n of our applicati0n. Which of the answers will I depend on? Pls. Help!tnx!

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hell0,

I've read in the gl0ssary under full time studies that an interrupti0n of one year studying will still be considered as a dependent..Is it a reliable info<glossary of terms>? So which is which? Others replied that i'm still c0nsidered as dependent because i'm currently enr0lled and its pri0r the submissi0n of our applicati0n. Which of the answers will I depend on? Pls. Help!tnx!

1. I would like to know where you found the above definition.
2. This is what the processing manual states

R2(b)(ii) & (iii) describe children over the age of 22 who may be considered dependent children if
they are substantially dependent on their parents for financial support. This includes full-time
students enrolled in accredited post secondary institutions or children with a physical or mental
condition. In such cases, officers must ask for documentary evidence of full time attendance at
school, evidence of the institution's accreditation with the relevant authority, evidence of the
physical or mental condition and evidence of financial dependency on parents

From the Regulations

dependent child”, in respect of a parent, means a child who

(b) is in one of the following situations of dependency, namely,
(i) is less than 22 years of age and not a spouse or common-law partner,
(ii) has depended substantially on the financial support of the parent since before the age of 22 — or if the child became a spouse or common-law partner before the age of 22, since becoming a spouse or common-law partner — and, since before the age of 22 or since becoming a spouse or common-law partner, as the case may be, has been a student
(A) continuously enrolled in and attending a post-secondary institution that is accredited by the relevant government authority, and
(B) actively pursuing a course of academic, professional or vocational training on a full-time basis

 

[katkian]

I've seen it at canadavisa.com,under family class sp0ns0rship,then i clicked about the dependent child..then full-time student.<i h0pe that it is a reliable source>

So does it mean I'm rejected as a dependent child?oh what will I do n0w, I d0n't want to be left al0ne. Will they n0t c0nsider me as a dependent child even though I'm currently enrolled?I h0pe they will still appr0ved me..Because for that year that I've stopped, I even remained unempl0yed and financially dependent to my dad.

PMM are you working in the immigrati0n?
Because it seems you kn0w everything ab0ut family sp0ns0rship.Thanks for the info..Thanks a l0t!

Will they still interview me?i h0pe so..So that i can explain my side,why i st0pped.

I'll cite a situati0n,.What if a parent wish to sp0ns0r his 25 y/o s0n but he only took 4 year course,graduated when he's 20, and not continuously enrolled for 4 yrs. Because the parent was only appr0ved to sp0nsor or bec0me permanent resident or wish to sp0ns0r his family when the son is 25. So if the s0n is currently enr0lled and depends to his parent for his tuiti0n fee,he is still ineligible to be called dependent?What type of sp0ns0rship will his s0n fall?

Is there still a possibility to sponsor an over 22 y/o child even there are gaps with their studies because they lately knew they will be sponsored?

Oh i'm so c0nfused.. ;-(
How many m0nths will the decisi0n be made after the submissi0n?

Thanks..

 

[Siouxie]

Hi

Nope as you say you were over 22 when your father submitted the application, so you would have to been in full time studies since before turning 22 and continued full time until the visa is issued. As you didn't remain in full time studies (took a year break) I think that you will find that you are no longer a dependent and the visa office will request that you be removed from the application.

PMM, she enrolled on a course in June 2010 (Bsc-Med) before her 22nd birthday which was August 4th, the application was submitted August 10th and she is continuing the course still (and will do so until PR). Doesn't this constitute full time education prior to her 22nd birthday and continuing after?

She took a year break prior to her enrollment in June.

Provided she continues without break on this course wouldn't she still be classified as dependant?

dependent child”, in respect of a parent, means a child who

(b) is in one of the following situations of dependency, namely,
(i) is less than 22 years of age and not a spouse or common-law partner,
(ii) has depended substantially on the financial support of the parent since before the age of 22 — or if the child became a spouse or common-law partner before the age of 22, since becoming a spouse or common-law partner — and, since before the age of 22 or since becoming a spouse or common-law partner, as the case may be, has been a student
(A) continuously enrolled in and attending a post-secondary institution that is accredited by the relevant government authority, and
(B) actively pursuing a course of academic, professional or vocational training on a full-time basis

I realise you are more knowledgable than I, but wondered if perhaps you didn't see that she was enrolled before her 22nd birthday.