************December 2020****************AoR Join here

[zac0999]

Medical: Passed
Eligibility : Not started
Criminality : In Progress
Security : Not started
BGC: In Progress
Visa office: Montreal

This is quite disappointing to say the least.

Mine is similar with Criminality passed and all others not started, with AoR Dec 02, PNP-EE Outland.
I thought Eligibility was always reviewed first or in parallels with others, but lately it seems this pattern has changed.

 

[GurpreetKalra23]

Mine is similar with Criminality passed and all others not started, with AoR Dec 02, PNP-EE Outland.
I thought Eligibility was always reviewed first or in parallels with others, but lately it seems this pattern has changed.

Visa office?

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Dear All,

Today, when I opened my express entry account, I had noticed that Current status was reflecting as Application/profile updated, whereas there was nothing updated. Thereby, I logged out and login back, Current status was changed back to Submitted. Was that kind of Ghost Update, if yes, what it could be, any idea please ?

My details are below...

EE Category - CEC Inland | VO - Vancouver | ITA - Oct 14, 2020 | AOR - Dec 10, 2020

MEP - Jan 19, 2021 | BIO - Jan 20, 2021 | GU - March 13 (though nothing updated), No | Last called IRCC- March 11, 2021

Criminality - In Progress | Info Sharing - Not Started | Eligibility - Not Started | Security - Not Started

 

[Linalin]

Dear All,

Today, when I opened my express entry account, I had noticed that Current status was reflecting as Application/profile updated, whereas there was nothing updated. Thereby, I logged out and login back, Current status was changed back to Submitted. Was that kind of Ghost Update, if yes, what it could be, any idea please ?

My details are below...

EE Category - CEC Inland | VO - Vancouver | ITA - Oct 14, 2020 | AOR - Dec 10, 2020

MEP - Jan 19, 2021 | BIO - Jan 20, 2021 | GU - March 13 (though nothing updated), No | Last called IRCC- March 11, 2021

Criminality - In Progress | Info Sharing - Not Started | Eligibility - Not Started | Security - Not Started

Well somehow I keep getting Application/profile updated all day today, when I click "Check full application status", it sends me to error 502. Don't know if this is similar to yours, but when I finally managed to get to check my status, nothing changed.

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Well somehow I keep getting Application/profile updated all day today, when I click "Check full application status", it sends me to error 502. Don't know if this is similar to yours, but when I finally managed to get to check my status, nothing changed.

Exactly same happened to me!!! and when I finally managed to get to check my status too, nothing changed.
Only one thing I noticed, one line general line was updated like - " follow up your income messages and respond to any request to move on with your application ".
However, It used to be something like " you might not hear from us for a while "

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Yes, I meant this
.. the two line change
@Vikram_kumar123

Hi Bacelor and alghinwilsoncs @alghinwilsoncs , Yes the same happened to me today. I though, it was some kind of ghost update, but it seems it was merely this normal update :-(

Today, when I opened my express entry account, I had noticed that Current status was reflecting as Application/profile updated, whereas there was nothing updated. Thereby, I logged out and login back, Current status was changed back to Submitted.

 

[Linalin]

Exactly same happened to me!!! and when I finally managed to get to check my status too, nothing changed.
Only one thing I noticed, one line general line was updated like - " follow up your income messages and respond to any request to move on with your application ".
However, It used to be something like " you might not hear from us for a while "

Yeah that changed for me when the progress bar hit 50%, not sure if this is coincidence, or just I don't check enough. I think it's not a ghost update but a website glitch

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

Yeah that changed for me when the progress bar hit 50%, not sure if this is coincidence, or just I don't check enough. I think it's not a ghost update but a website glitch

Yes it seems, for me it happened today, and my progress bar says 53% progress.

 

[Linalin]

Yes it seems, for me it happened today, and my progress bar says 53% progress.

I see. I don't know what it is related to then, hopefully something good coming

 

[Vikram_kumar123]

I see. I don't know what it is related to then, hopefully something good coming

I found the exact update happened at progress bar 53% for somebody back in 2018, see below link...

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/september-2018-aor-join-here.581191/page-170

 

[izzyhu1106]

So the change from "you may not hear from us for a little while" to "make sure you read your messages" is just a default setting which is triggered after progress bar passes 50%?

 

[Bacelor]

Hi Bacelor and alghinwilsoncs @alghinwilsoncs , Yes the same happened to me today. I though, it was some kind of ghost update, but it seems it was merely this normal update :-(

Today, when I opened my express entry account, I had noticed that Current status was reflecting as Application/profile updated, whereas there was nothing updated. Thereby, I logged out and login back, Current status was changed back to Submitted.

I hope its good news for you.
Good luck

 

[shaizeik]

I received my GCMS and noticed Review Required for the Client Information (LoE), in the Outgoing section.

@legalfalcon I'd highly appreciate to have your reply.

Do I need to do anything in this regard? My eligibility is recommended passed according to GCMS.

 

[legalfalcon]

I received my GCMS and noticed Review Required for the Client Information (LoE), in the Outgoing section.

@legalfalcon I'd highly appreciate to have your reply.

Do I need to do anything in this regard? My eligibility is recommended passed according to GCMS.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

 

[shaizeik]

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Thanks so much!