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Sk094

Full Member
Jan 30, 2021
24
5
Hi everyone i have a question. I am an outland dec 2019 applicant. My vo last week issued 5 pre arrivals and ppr request! We recieved an email last month from the vo saying processing times cannot be estimated and such enquiries will not be answered. Im kinda getting impatient and want to know whats going on. Do you think its a good idea for me to email them to follow up if eligibility and security check has been passed ? Or started?
 

genruab

Star Member
Sep 25, 2019
120
53
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
4012
Hi everyone i have a question. I am an outland dec 2019 applicant. My vo last week issued 5 pre arrivals and ppr request! We recieved an email last month from the vo saying processing times cannot be estimated and such enquiries will not be answered. Im kinda getting impatient and want to know whats going on. Do you think its a good idea for me to email them to follow up if eligibility and security check has been passed ? Or started?
Why do you even need this information? It will not help an outlander. Clearly all fsw outland applicants were moved to the end of the line. We can only get permission to travel when 80% of people are vaccinated. This will happen till the end of the year.
Get gcms notes instead to see whrere your file
 

Sk094

Full Member
Jan 30, 2021
24
5
Why do you even need this information? It will not help an outlander. Clearly all fsw outland applicants were moved to the end of the line. We can only get permission to travel when 80% of people are vaccinated. This will happen till the end of the year.
Get gcms notes instead to see whrere your file
I need this info because last week 5 people from my vo recieved pre arrival and ppr request. Literally one day after another. I also need this info because if we passed eligibility theres a chance to know whether the file is being worked on or if its catching dust. Its frustrating now and i dont have the patience to wait another month or god knows how much longer to even get the gcms notes
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016

JaaKaaa

Star Member
Feb 20, 2019
79
15
Why do you even need this information? It will not help an outlander. Clearly all fsw outland applicants were moved to the end of the line. We can only get permission to travel when 80% of people are vaccinated. This will happen till the end of the year.
Get gcms notes instead to see whrere your file
Where did you get this from?
 

slashmaybe

Hero Member
May 20, 2019
216
24
Can anyone tell me where we can see the validity of our medicals in ircc profile ??
Got this information from the GCMS notes. Have you ordered the GCMS notes?

In the GCMS Notes, there is a field named "Valid Until" - which is under the section "MEDICAL" - which in turn is after the "BIOMETRICS" and "ORGANIZED CRIME" sections. For me it is on page 34/85 - it should be around the same page number for you too.
 
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Jan_2020

Star Member
May 25, 2020
55
12
You can either send a webform or give them a call if you can pass through. Do you know if your file has been approved? They made the final decision on my file in August and it's been sitting there for the past 6 months waiting for them to generate COPR. I explained that to them and the agent was kind enough to see all they have left to do was click publish and my file would be complete and I would be out of my misery :) Two weeks after, they issued my COPR!

I'm not sure if this will work for outland though because of travel restrictions etc ...
Hey, I am inland applicant. Just curious to know did they extend your medicals before issuing COPR ? And how long it took for COPR after medicals were extended ?
 

PUI22

Newbie
Jun 24, 2020
3
0
Hello @legalfalcon, my AOR is December 2019. My eligibility has been “recommend interview” since May 2020 and is yet to change. Then I got married September 2020 and uploaded the requested documents since Oct 2020 and my husband is yet to get a Biometrics Instruction letter (BIL) since last year.
My medicals expired in Nov 2020 and was not extended.

my question is, can I go on my own to do remedicals without IRCC’s request and what is the effect of doing this?

also, is there anything I can do to help fasten my application.. it is getting really frustrating.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello @legalfalcon, my AOR is December 2019. My eligibility has been “recommend interview” since May 2020 and is yet to change. Then I got married September 2020 and uploaded the requested documents since Oct 2020 and my husband is yet to get a Biometrics Instruction letter (BIL) since last year.
My medicals expired in Nov 2020 and was not extended.

my question is, can I go on my own to do remedicals without IRCC’s request and what is the effect of doing this?

also, is there anything I can do to help fasten my application.. it is getting really frustrating.
Yes, you can get your upfront medicals done with it a request from IRCC and send the upfront medical sheet to IRCC via webform. Your medicals will be evaluated and updated on you MyCIC account.
 

LaFontaine

Star Member
Jan 7, 2020
129
98
Hey, I am inland applicant. Just curious to know did they extend your medicals before issuing COPR ? And how long it took for COPR after medicals were extended ?
Yes, they extended my medicals on Aug 31st, the same day they made the final decision on my file....so just over 6 months ago :( hopefully you hear back much quicker than that!
 

genruab

Star Member
Sep 25, 2019
120
53
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
4012
Yes, they extended my medicals on Aug 31st, the same day they made the final decision on my file....so just over 6 months ago :( hopefully you hear back much quicker than that!
Lol, they made final decision on my file on Apr 2nd, 2020. Still waiting...
 

Nupurjgd

Member
Nov 15, 2019
10
0
Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in DECEMBER 2019, or anticipate filing their application in DECEMBER 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

• 6 months processing time


IRCC states that most applications are processed within 6 months or less. The 6 months processing time starts when your application meets the completeness check and NOT from the AoR date. The completeness check is the first stage of the application processing, and usually happens around when your medicals are passed. To know the exact date of the completeness check (R10), you will need to see your GCMS notes.

• Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account are:

a. Review of eligibility - Will continue to be in progress until you receive the COPR
b. Review of medical results - Will change to the date when the Medicals are passed, usually 20-45 days post AOR.
c. Review of additional documents - Will show "We do not need additional documents," unless you receive any documents request and submit documents, when it will change.
d. Interview - For most this is remain as "[Y]ou do not need an interview. We will send you a message if this changes"
e. Biometrics - Will change when you are requested for biometrics and later when you have submitted the biometrics
f. Background check - Will change twice for most applicants. First it will change in the initial few weeks, and then go back to not applicable and later in the processing again change to, "we are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information." This happens because criminality and security are both a part of BGC, and when these checks happen, the status changes. It will continue to be in progress the second time until you receive the COPR.
g. Final decision - This will remain the same until you receive the COPR.


There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security


To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

• How to send a Case Specific Enquiry / Webform -

During the processing fo your application you may need to update your application and send additional documents. You can send updates and documents by webform (CSE) using the link - https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/canada-case-cas-eng.aspx

When IRCC asks for any additional documents, and there is no upload slot in your MyCIC account, you will then once again have to send those documents via CSE using the link above.

You can also use this link to enquire about the status of your application if it exceeds 6 months.


• Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton


CPC in Mississauga

The case processing centre in Mississauga processes applications to sponsor family members living in Canada and abroad.

CPC and CIO in Sydney


CPC in Ottawa

The case processing centre office in Ottawa (CPC-O) processes:

visitor visa (temporary resident visa) applications from within Canada for applicants with valid status (students or temporary foreign workers only).
permanent resident visa applications from the United States and Canada, after they have been received and deemed complete by CPC-M or CIO-S.


OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.


ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -


This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

• Letter of Explanation -

As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.

SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
Its more than a year but i don see anything coming. it says medical passed and for background check we are processing and will inform you if we need further info. Can anyone help me to understand where is the file now, as in what stage