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kamal225

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Jun 20, 2010
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Hello Koumail 130 & all:
I just got this email and I know this lawyer in person and he is a wonderful lawyer and he will tell you exactly what needed to be done and again it is a personal choice to decide who should handle your papers

read carefully the following and it will enlighten you a bit and good luck,
talk to you later

By Guidy Mamann, J.D.

I’m a Canadian and engaged to a Jamaican who I met three years ago.

His work permit expired one year ago. His application to extend his status as a visitor was denied in April. He was then told that he can apply for a pre-removal risk assessment and is still in Canada waiting on a response. We are currently filling out the papers to apply for permanent residency under the common-law partner category. Since he has no status, can he stay in Canada while we are waiting for the process to go through?

We were told that if his pre-removal risk assessment doesn’t go through, he will be sent home even though we are applying for permanent residency. I’m being told different things all the time. It’s very confusing and stressful. I’m worried that if he is sent home it will take years for him to come back. I am currently three months pregnant.

In February, 2005 former immigration minister Joe Volpe announced that Canadians would now, in certain cases, be able to sponsor their out-of-status spouses and common-law partners from within Canada. In September, 2005 an Operational Bulletin was issued clarifying how this policy would be applied. This bulletin included an “Administrative Deferral Policy” which set out certain criteria which would determine who would be allowed to stay here while their sponsorship was being processed and who could be removed before the process was completed.

Unfortunately, it seems that your common law partner falls into the second group. Here’s why.

Before removing someone from Canada, immigration authorities are required to see if the person faces some risk in returning to their country. Accordingly, the foreign national is called in for a “pre-removal interview” where they are served with a notice informing them of their right to make a “pre-removal risk assessment” (PRRA) application. If they make such an application and are found to be at risk, they will be allowed to remain here and to apply for permanent resident’s status. If such an application is not made, or is made but refused, the person is removed.

Subject to certain exceptions, if the sponsorship application is filed “inland” before the foreigner is called in for a pre-removal interview, by phone, letter or otherwise, the applicant will get to stay here until their sponsorship is finalized. If they submit their sponsorship application after the call-in notice is issued, they can be removed from Canada even though their sponsorship application is still pending.

Since your partner has already been served with a PRRA notice and since you have not yet submitted your sponsorship paperwork, he will not benefit from an administrative deferral and can be sent home even if you send it in now.

I do not recommend you do so since PRRA applications are usually decided in about four-six months while sponsorships take at least eight months, if not longer, just to reach “stage one” i.e. the stage where the relationship is assessed as genuine or not. Accordingly, it is far more likely that your partner’s PRRA application will be decided long before your sponsorship application can be assessed. More than 90 per cent of PRRAs are refused. If he is removed, you will have to discontinue your inland sponsorship application and restart the process in Kingston. However, in the very, very unlikely event that the inland sponsorship application is approved in principle before the PRRA is decided, then your partner will benefit from a regulatory stay of removal until he is finally granted permanent residence status.

If a removal is scheduled, your partner can apply to the Federal Court for a judicial stay of execution of removal but he will have to demonstrate that, amongst other things, the removal will cause “irreparable harm.” Your pregnancy, alone, is unlikely to be sufficient to prove that.

My advice to you is to immediately prepare an overseas sponsorship application and file it in Kingston since the most likely scenario is that the PRRA will be decided, and probably refused, soon and, in any event, before you will have the time to submit and process an inland sponsorship to a successful stage-one decision. The overseas sponsorship will likely take 16 months or longer.

The Administrative Deferral Policy is meant to be generous but only to a point. There are others who do not benefit from a deferral of removal regardless of when they file their sponsorship application, i.e. those who:



are inadmissible on certain security, criminal, and human rights related grounds;
are or were facing charges in Canada;
have already benefited from a previous administrative deferral;
have a warrant outstanding for removal;
have hindered or delayed removal;
have been removed from Canada but who returned here without permission; and
entered Canada with fraudulent or improperly obtained travel documents.

There are many technical rules that can trip up the sponsorship of someone who is here without status. I recommend great caution in such cases.

Guidy Mamann, J.D. practices law in Toronto at Mamann, Sandaluk and is certified by the Law Society of Upper Canada as an immigration specialist
 

koumail130

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Dec 14, 2010
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Dear kamal225 & all,

Thank you Kamal for the useful informations, but unfortunately, this lawyer as mentioned is in Toronto and I am in Montreal.
Do you have idea about how much lawyer(or immigration consultant) ask as fees for sponsorship application?
I hope to find a trustworthy consultant because I find difficulties with filling up the outland applications.

Thank You
 

nagz2207

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Dec 14, 2010
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Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Beirut
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2010-10-12
Doc's Request.
2011-01-22
AOR Received.
2010-11-09
File Transfer...
2011-11-22
Med's Request
2011-09-30
Med's Done....
2010-08
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
2011-10-13
VISA ISSUED...
2011-10-18
Eli what is the questionnaire about ? what kind of questions do they ask in it?
 

eli1985

Star Member
Jul 10, 2010
187
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2010
Doc's Request.
20-09-2010
Nomination.....
----
AOR Received.
01-03-2010
IELTS Request
----
File Transfer...
30-03-2010
Med's Request
-----
Med's Done....
14-02-2010
Interview........
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Passport Req..
25-01-2011
Dear Nagz2207
Below is the questionnaire. If you have any question please let me know.

Code:
[center][center][left]RESIDENCY QUESTIONNAIRE
EMBASSY OF CANADA
DAMASCUS, SYRIA
To be completed by the Principal Applicant[/left][/center][/center]

Name: ____________ FILE Number:_________ __

1) Is your sponsor currently a Canadian citizen or a Permanent Resident?

 Canadian citizen Permanent Resident


2)Is your sponsor currently in Canada?


A) My sponsor has most recently been physically residing in Canada from ________ to _________


B) I last saw my sponsor in ______from_____________to___________
Place mm yyyy mm yyyy

NO – If no, you must answer question A below.

A) My sponsor has been living outside of Canada since _____ /______.
mm yyyy

3) Will you and your spouse be both moving to Canada and reside together permanently?

YES NO


4) Have you, as the principal applicant, made any particular plan to establish yourself in Canada?

YES – Please provide details about your plans:

NO – If no, please explain why not? _____________________________________


5) Does your sponsor own any assets in Canada? Please tick one or more:

Bank Account House Credit card
Apartment Business
Other assets | home furnishing, automobile, etc.


6) Has your sponsor filed the most recent annual tax filing with the Canada Revenue Agency as a factual resident of Canada?

YES – If yes, when? mm yyyy
NO – If no, please explain why not? _____________________________________


7) Is your sponsor currently employed in Canada?

NO, my sponsor is currently not employed.

YES - If yes, you must complete the details below:

My sponsor is currently employed as a _____________since_________________
Job Title mm yyyy
My sponsor works:
Permanent Full-time Permanent Part-time
Temporary Full-time Temporary Part-time

Details of your sponsor's employer:
Company Name:
Location of employment (Complete address):

Telephone Number.: ____Fax Number: _

8)Starting with your sponsor's current employer, if applicable, give details of all employers your sponsor has worked for since the time your sponsorship application was submitted:

Employer Job Title From
DD / MM / YYYY To
DD / MM / YYYY


9) Please give the name of the countries where your sponsor has resided, your sponsor's complete address(es), and telephone numbers in these countries, as well as period of residence at each address since the time your sponsorship application was submitted:

Country Complete address(es) and telephone numbers From
DD / MM / YYYY To
DD / MM / YYYY

I declare that the information I have given in the foregoing application is truthful, complete and correct.

_______________________________________
SIGNATURE dd/mm/yyyy
 

kamal225

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Jun 20, 2010
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Hi koumail130,
try calling the lawyer and see if they have a branch in montreal. call them tomorrow and ask their advice and how much they charge let me know if you need their contact number or an inside staff for sponorship process in their office. my advice you need a lawyer not a consultant and if you need to fill the forms there should be arab community centres who will help you fill the forms for free or little charge. always keep copies of what you are sending them dont wait find a lawyer write down questions you have in mind explain your concern of what happen with the previous lawyer and book an appointment go to the lawyer office and discuss your case and situation normally consultation are free for half hour or little charge.
as for fees each lawyer charge differently between 2500 to 5000 dollars
our thread members please submit your ideas so we see if we can help koumail130 our new brother
good luck and all the best
 

geminibella

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Oct 27, 2010
543
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/11/2010
File Transfer...
21/12/2010
Med's Done....
08/24/2010
Passport Req..
13/11/2011
VISA ISSUED...
15/11/2011
LANDED..........
30/11/2011
Omg ! lol they ask too many questions !! Khtana2et !! Lol

Me husband and I were talking today and well we kind of came to the conclusion that by next month I'll be buying my ticket for the summer that way it's cheaper.. Inshallah nothing happens in Lebanon.. like war !!

It broke my heart when we made the decision for me to go back around june !! That means i'll be over 6 months of more waiting without seeing.. I swear to god this broke my heart... the reason I won't go sooner is because I need to stay with my mom because of her health and I would only be going down to spend a little bit of time there and eventually come back to Canada together.. another problem is I don't even know if he'll have gotten his visa yet considering the fact that everyone here has waited almost over 6-7 months !! BREAKS MY HEART !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T STAND BEING SO FAR AWAY FROM THE ONE I LOVE.. honestly :(
 

nagz2207

Champion Member
Dec 14, 2010
1,177
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124
Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Beirut
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2010-10-12
Doc's Request.
2011-01-22
AOR Received.
2010-11-09
File Transfer...
2011-11-22
Med's Request
2011-09-30
Med's Done....
2010-08
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
2011-10-13
VISA ISSUED...
2011-10-18
Hey gemini if you want you can call my mom she's a travel agent she can help you with the prices and stuff :) Let me know I'll give you the number of the agency that she works for.
Thanks for the questionnaire Eli the questions are pretty straight forward nothing tricky there lol. Do you live in Montreal as well?
 

geminibella

Hero Member
Oct 27, 2010
543
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12/11/2010
File Transfer...
21/12/2010
Med's Done....
08/24/2010
Passport Req..
13/11/2011
VISA ISSUED...
15/11/2011
LANDED..........
30/11/2011
Ok inshallah !! I'll get the number from you soon ! Thanks nagzzz ! xoxo
 

eli1985

Star Member
Jul 10, 2010
187
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Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2010
Doc's Request.
20-09-2010
Nomination.....
----
AOR Received.
01-03-2010
IELTS Request
----
File Transfer...
30-03-2010
Med's Request
-----
Med's Done....
14-02-2010
Interview........
-----
Passport Req..
25-01-2011
Dear Nagz2207
Yes the questions are easy, but we already filled many forms with the same questions why they ask us these questions again I don't know. I'm leaving in Toronto, actually I'm freezing in Toronto :D
 

eli1985

Star Member
Jul 10, 2010
187
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2010
Doc's Request.
20-09-2010
Nomination.....
----
AOR Received.
01-03-2010
IELTS Request
----
File Transfer...
30-03-2010
Med's Request
-----
Med's Done....
14-02-2010
Interview........
-----
Passport Req..
25-01-2011
Dear koumail130,
I hope you find a good lawyer, but I agree with Kamal go for immigration lawyer not consultant they don't know much. Talk to 2 or 3 professional lawyers. Try to tell them the whole story and see which one suggests better ideas and solutions. The charge for consulting a professional lawyer is something between 50-300$.
My lawyer charged me 3000$=1040$ (immigration fee)+ 1960$ (for himself), the charge depends on the lawyer and the case, if there is a second time marriage or a child involve they usually charge more. Sorry I don't have any idea for the maximum charge ::)
Try to fill the forms within these weeks, I think the second best step is to leave the country after filling the forms.These are all my opinion I hope they were useful, get a professional help. I really wish u all the best.
 

nagz2207

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Dec 14, 2010
1,177
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124
Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Beirut
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2010-10-12
Doc's Request.
2011-01-22
AOR Received.
2010-11-09
File Transfer...
2011-11-22
Med's Request
2011-09-30
Med's Done....
2010-08
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
2011-10-13
VISA ISSUED...
2011-10-18
I have a small question.. Do you guys think it will be a problem because my husband already has 2 citizenship one from lebanon and one from Gabon as well as 2 passports obviously ?
 

eli1985

Star Member
Jul 10, 2010
187
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2010
Doc's Request.
20-09-2010
Nomination.....
----
AOR Received.
01-03-2010
IELTS Request
----
File Transfer...
30-03-2010
Med's Request
-----
Med's Done....
14-02-2010
Interview........
-----
Passport Req..
25-01-2011
No I don't think so, I believe Canada accepts multiple nationalities for one person, check it with immigration website.
 

Omid.G

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Sep 13, 2010
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eli1985 said:
Dear Nagz2207
I'm the sponsor. As Arachir mentioned, if you missed sending some documents they will ask for it and for Damascus cases they ask for the questionnaire from all of us. Wish u best of luck.
But not from me dear eli. :) Actually during last 1 year, they have requested everything except questionnaire!!! ;) But they have the copy of my passport and letter from employer, so it may be the reason that they have answers for their questions from my already sent documents. I don't know.
 

eli1985

Star Member
Jul 10, 2010
187
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2010
Doc's Request.
20-09-2010
Nomination.....
----
AOR Received.
01-03-2010
IELTS Request
----
File Transfer...
30-03-2010
Med's Request
-----
Med's Done....
14-02-2010
Interview........
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Passport Req..
25-01-2011
Dear Omid
Ohh really, I didn't know that. You are right because they already asked about your employment and copy of passport there is no reason to send the questionnaire for you.Do you have any news for your case? Did they receive the new medical? You are on top the list, I hope your case will be finalized before this holidays.Wish you all the best.
 

Yaya Marei

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Aug 25, 2010
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Damascus
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
1/8/2010
Doc's Request.
Nov 2010
Med's Request
1l7 2011
Med's Done....
3/7 /2011
Interview........
28/6/2011
Passport Req..
17/8/2011
VISA ISSUED...
21/8/2011
LANDED..........
31/8 /2011 Insallah
Omid.G said:
But not from me dear eli. :) Actually during last 1 year, they have requested everything except questionnaire!!! ;) But they have the copy of my passport and letter from employer, so it may be the reason that they have answers for their questions from my already sent documents. I don't know.
I do not think so , because we had send all documents, and they send us Questionnaire, but I think the reason they asked us not you, because it is new requirement, not sure but this what I think