Critically ill during visit to Canada

[canuck78]

In this case entire family was not PR. it was economic migration and not family one.

Sadly IRCC is ineffective which seen many cases before. Treating brain cancer would cost over 120k+ over 5 years. We’ve seen cases where only current medication is counted and nothing else not even scans over 5 years, oncology appointments, radiologist reading scans, etc. There would be significantly more costs than thar but some are likely while some are guaranteed. Not to mention nobody can predict treatment past 6-12 months in most cancer patients. Meanwhile some longterm residents are waiting months to see an oncologists (sadly some dying while waiting), many months for an MRI, we’re paying to send some to the US for treatment, etc. There is zero extra capacity in the system.

 

[GandiBaat]

Sadly IRCC is ineffective which seen many cases before. Treating brain cancer would cost over 120k+ over 5 years. We’ve seen cases where only current medication is counted and nothing else not even scans over 5 years, oncology appointments, radiologist reading scans, etc. There would be significantly more costs than thar but some are likely while some are guaranteed. Not to mention nobody can predict treatment past 6-12 months in most cancer patients. Meanwhile some longterm residents are waiting months to see an oncologists (sadly some dying while waiting), many months for an MRI, we’re paying to send some to the US for treatment, etc. There is zero extra capacity in the system.

I was present when their discussions with lawyer was happening. My friend was in a terrible terrible situation. Lawyers opinion was this : most of expense of treating her is already done ie surgery radiation and chemo. They are long time resident of Canada (for 8 years). They were on work permit, valid at that time for another 3 years. The cancer came out of blue. That means, for next 5 years or so, the cost is not as much. Its essentially MRIs and follow ups and some anti-seizure medication. There is a very certain risk of death but the cost associated with follow up is not huge. Had it been something like kidney failure which requires constant dialysis services, that would be almost impossible.

Prognostication is usually statistics based. And panel do opine about how likely they will need more treatment of what kind. A person with CKD approaching end stage WILL need transplant. A person with brain cancer in remission that she had may or may not need another surgery or other intervention. It does not mean she will be fine, its just that more intervention may simply not be possible.

True, they got a bit of furtherance but not even needed a PFL. This is why medical inadmissiblity is a lot nuanced. One can be terribly sick but may not cost as much or may not need as many resources because... most of the cost is already done and nothing further exists.

Right now, she needs one in a year follow up and MRI. She is "okay" for past 2 and a half year.

 

[supvisa2024]

When does their travel medical insurance expire and is medical repatriation part of the coverage? Have you been speaking to the insurer? They may determine what happens unless you have the funds to pay for care out of pocket. Typically as soon as stable enough insurers want to fly people back to their home countries if it is more cost effective for them.

Thanks. As of now he is not fit to travel from commercial flight and air ambulance is too high in cost. As per the doctor the recovery time is uncertain, could take several months therefore i am exploring any option compassionate options available for him.

 

[canuck78]

Thanks. As of now he is not fit to travel from commercial flight and air ambulance is too high in cost. As per the doctor the recovery time is uncertain, could take several months therefore i am exploring any option compassionate options available for him.

Is medical repatriation part of his travel insurance? Have you spoken to his insurance provider? How long until his insurance expires? Do you have the funds to pay privately for healthcare? In hospital you are somewhat insulated because most will allow payment plans to repay over time but once you leave the hospital or need a rehab bed things get a lot more complicated financially especially if his travel medical insurance expires. Most will want payment upfront. The H&C process could take a few years with no guarantees. This is a very tough situation and nobody on the forum can understand your full family situation. I would also ask to speak to hospital administration and a social worker to ask about potential obstacles, costs, options, any potential community help available, etc.

 

[canuck78]

I was present when their discussions with lawyer was happening. My friend was in a terrible terrible situation. Lawyers opinion was this : most of expense of treating her is already done ie surgery radiation and chemo. They are long time resident of Canada (for 8 years). They were on work permit, valid at that time for another 3 years. The cancer came out of blue. That means, for next 5 years or so, the cost is not as much. Its essentially MRIs and follow ups and some anti-seizure medication. There is a very certain risk of death but the cost associated with follow up is not huge. Had it been something like kidney failure which requires constant dialysis services, that would be almost impossible.

Prognostication is usually statistics based. And panel do opine about how likely they will need more treatment of what kind. A person with CKD approaching end stage WILL need transplant. A person with brain cancer in remission that she had may or may not need another surgery or other intervention. It does not mean she will be fine, its just that more intervention may simply not be possible.

True, they got a bit of furtherance but not even needed a PFL. This is why medical inadmissiblity is a lot nuanced. One can be terribly sick but may not cost as much or may not need as many resources because... most of the cost is already done and nothing further exists.

Right now, she needs one in a year follow up and MRI. She is "okay" for past 2 and a half year.

In active treatment for brain cancer and having no cancer detected are very different situations. Although even if no current evidence of disease in certain brain cancers like glioblastoma still would be associated with high cost because almost guaranteed reoccurrence within 5 yrs and sadly in most cases death.

 

[canuck78]

Would also assume that supervisa being processed will be denied. You are required to report changes of health and obtaining supervisa insurance may be impossible or extremely expensive without coverage related to his most recent hospitalization. Wouldn’t suggest misrepresenting your situation to IRCC but insurance companies do much more due diligence to avoid paying claims and will go way further to try and recoup funds so you need to disclose your life story to them and hope you don’t forget anything.

 

[GandiBaat]

Would also assume that supervisa being processed will be denied. You are required to report changes of health and obtaining supervisa insurance may be impossible or extremely expensive without coverage related to his most recent hospitalization. Wouldn’t suggest misrepresenting your situation to IRCC but insurance companies do much more due diligence to avoid paying claims and will go way further to try and recoup funds so you need to disclose your life story to them and hope you don’t forget anything.

He mentioned his father still needs to do medical exam for immigration.