CPP-Ottawa

[Amalthea]

I hate how much anxiety seems to creep out of nowhere during this process. I'm trying not to let it bother me, because it's not going to change the outcome, and I don't know what will happen so I could be worrying for nothing.. but anyway

I got denied for Nexus b/c I went to court once. I was never arrested, but since I was fingerprinted they said I was technically arrested. Lol. Even though the charges were dropped.

It was for a DUI that ended up being completely "dismissed without prejudice". I had my FBI record updated to show that the DUI was, in fact, dismissed last year. I've been able to travel freely to and from Canada, even when I was on "probation" or what we call, Diversion, for it (after two border guards argued about whether or not to let me in!). But I can't help but worry that it's going to effect my application.

Has anyone gotten approved for PR with a charge that was dismissed? In my mind, if you were never charged with a crime, you were never charged with a crime. I never plead guilty or anything, it was all taken care of before my court date so they dropped the whole thing. I hope the officer who reviews our file will see reason, but.. I could use some reassurance that, someone, has been approved with a dismissal! Lol.

 

[Amalthea]

I did some digging.. This is from the CIC News website.

"Non-Convictions For the purposes of Canadian immigration, some sentences, such as conditional discharges and dismissed charges, are not considered convictions. Sentencing can vary by country and state, so each case needs to be examined on its own merits. - See more at: http://www.cicnews.com/2011/04/criminal-inadmissibility-enter-canada-04841.html#sthash.TryeNJs9.dpuf"

YAY! I also found this!

"If you have been acquitted of an offense at trial or at an appeal court, you are admissible and can enter Canada.

Different countries have different ways of disposing with a criminal matter that may look like a pardon or acquittal. Here is how CIC deals with these more unusual matters:

Criminal processes that are NOT considered to be convictions by CIC:

Acquittal contemplating dismissal
Deferral of prosecution
Deferral of judgment
Deferral of conviction
Nolle prosequi
Expunged


Criminal processes that are considered to be convictions by CIC

Deferral of sentence
Suspended sentence
Nolo contendre
Convicted
There are other ways that foreign courts can deal with criminal matters. In each case, the key is to determine how it would be considered equivalent in Canada."

I believe this is how I was able to enter Canada the first time, during my diversion. Technically, it was deferral of prosecution, or deferral of judgement. And since I completed the agreed terms, it was then dismissed.

Taking a deep breath now Hopefully this will help someone in the same boat, someday, on this forum! It sure cleared things up for me, in regards to Criminal admissibility.

Thanks for letting me monologue on this post, haha.

 

[spaceexp]

I did some digging.. This is from the CIC News website.

"Non-Convictions For the purposes of Canadian immigration, some sentences, such as conditional discharges and dismissed charges, are not considered convictions. Sentencing can vary by country and state, so each case needs to be examined on its own merits. - See more at: http://www.cicnews.com/2011/04/criminal-inadmissibility-enter-canada-04841.html#sthash.TryeNJs9.dpuf"

YAY! I also found this!

"If you have been acquitted of an offense at trial or at an appeal court, you are admissible and can enter Canada.

Different countries have different ways of disposing with a criminal matter that may look like a pardon or acquittal. Here is how CIC deals with these more unusual matters:

Criminal processes that are NOT considered to be convictions by CIC:

Acquittal contemplating dismissal
Deferral of prosecution
Deferral of judgment
Deferral of conviction
Nolle prosequi
Expunged


Criminal processes that are considered to be convictions by CIC

Deferral of sentence
Suspended sentence
Nolo contendre
Convicted
There are other ways that foreign courts can deal with criminal matters. In each case, the key is to determine how it would be considered equivalent in Canada."

I believe this is how I was able to enter Canada the first time, during my diversion. Technically, it was deferral of prosecution, or deferral of judgement. And since I completed the agreed terms, it was then dismissed.

Taking a deep breath now Hopefully this will help someone in the same boat, someday, on this forum! It sure cleared things up for me, in regards to Criminal admissibility.

Thanks for letting me monologue on this post, haha.

If I were you, I would print that from the CIC web site, and brought it with me every time I travel, just in case. CBSA officer don't know it all, and sometimes if they are not sure they go for there strict option...

 

[Amalthea]

Thank you for that! I usually keep my "dismissal" with me It has saved me so much grief!

 

[Icy Empress]

Hiya all,

We got decision made on March 31st. I was under the understanding that we would receive the COPR by mail. Is it usual for it to take this long? My husband lives in Michigan and our VO is Ottawa. I see that Beshoo received his in and around April 7th and we were accepted the same day.

Would appreciate any help I had planned my vacation to pick him up April 23rd, but only 3 mailing days left before then

 

[KarlR]

Hiya all,

We got decision made on March 31st. I was under the understanding that we would receive the COPR by mail. Is it usual for it to take this long? My husband lives in Michigan and our VO is Ottawa. I see that Beshoo received his in and around April 7th and we were accepted the same day.

Would appreciate any help I had planned my vacation to pick him up April 23rd, but only 3 mailing days left before then

You should call them and confirm that it has been put in the mail maybe?seems like you should have got it by now.

 

[Icy Empress]

Thanks Karl! um this number you speak of do you know where I can find it? I've only ever mailed them :$

 

[KarlR]

Thanks Karl! um this number you speak of do you know where I can find it? I've only ever mailed them :$

1-888-242-2100

Can be a pain to get through to someone sometimes.think it's just the CIC call centre,but they might be able to tell you if it's gone out in the mail yet or not.

 

[Icy Empress]

ah thanks so much! We'll give that a try Monday who knows maybe it'll arrive before the need to call

 

[ascouple]

Anyone ever had a struggle with changing their address?

We changed our address 2 weeks prior to moving on ECAS. During the process it asked if I wanted to change the address of anyone else in the application. I entered my common law wife's name.

Almost a month later, the address still hasn't changed on ECAS. I called the CIC call centre Wednesday and the agent told me my address has changed in their system. She then checked "for every place that my address could be" and made sure everything was updated. Then she told me my wife would have to call in separately.

Wife called, the agent tells her that he couldn't change her address over the phone because she was being sponsored. She needs to either change her address online or send Ottawa an email, he said. So she changed her address online.

Right now our addresses are STILL not changed on ECAS a month after we had initially requested it and followed up. It's getting frustrating... Based on the spreadsheets it looks like our application should be getting processed in the next month hopefully. I don't want any correspondence going to the wrong address. We've purchased mail forwarding from Canada Post but they tell me that they will not forward mail from certain government agencies, including CIC.

 

[Mariac819]

Anyone ever had a struggle with changing their address?

We changed our address 2 weeks prior to moving on ECAS. During the process it asked if I wanted to change the address of anyone else in the application. I entered my common law wife's name.

Almost a month later, the address still hasn't changed on ECAS. I called the CIC call centre Wednesday and the agent told me my address has changed in their system. She then checked "for every place that my address could be" and made sure everything was updated. Then she told me my wife would have to call in separately.

Wife called, the agent tells her that he couldn't change her address over the phone because she was being sponsored. She needs to either change her address online or send Ottawa an email, he said. So she changed her address online.

Right now our addresses are STILL not changed on ECAS a month after we had initially requested it and followed up. It's getting frustrating... Based on the spreadsheets it looks like our application should be getting processed in the next month hopefully. I don't want any correspondence going to the wrong address. We've purchased mail forwarding from Canada Post but they tell me that they will not forward mail from certain government agencies, including CIC.

I am the person being sponsored. I emailed Ottawa VO with all my information and address change. They answered me back in 7 days saying it was being changed. It showed up changed in ECAS the next week.

 

[melgolchuk]

I am the person being sponsored. I emailed Ottawa VO with all my information and address change. They answered me back in 7 days saying it was being changed. It showed up changed in ECAS the next week.

I need to change my address as well. (I'm being sponsored) What in all should I include in my email? The dates they received everything or just my personal info? Thanjs

 

[Mariac819]

I need to change my address as well. (I'm being sponsored) What in all should I include in my email? The dates they received everything or just my personal info? Thanjs

You should at least wait until you receive SA. Just because it is easier and you will have UCI and Application numbers.

You should include EVERYTHING possible that they can use to identify your application.

I included

Type of Application

Name of Sponsor
DOB of Sponsor
UCI #
SA Date
Application File Date

Name of Principal applicant
DOB of Principal applicant
Application #
Country of citizenship


In the link below I copied and pasted the automatic email they send back when you email Ottawa. In it they mention what should be included when you correspond with them.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/july-2014-outland-applications-t229065.0.html;msg4154383#msg4154383

 

[Icy Empress]

1-888-242-2100

Can be a pain to get through to someone sometimes.think it's just the CIC call centre,but they might be able to tell you if it's gone out in the mail yet or not.

Thanks again they informed us it was sent off the 16th so we should receive within a week or so.

 

[AmericanGirlinLove]

Thanks again they informed us it was sent off the 16th so we should receive within a week or so.

Do you mind me asking what you said when you called? Did you mention ECAS at all or just a general inquiry?