CPC-Ottawa asking to submit addition information in order to allay their concern

[Icda]

Hi, I hope someone will help me with this situation.

I have sent my application on Jan. 28th and it was received on Jan 31st. I have applied under CEC, NOC B.
I have a masters degree in Information and Computer science but when I have moved to Canada I started to work in a furniture store where I was trained by a interior designer and now working as an Interior designer. I have been with this company for 2.5 years.
Yesterday (Aug. 27) I have received a Procedural Fairness Letter and the officer is saying that they have reviewed my application and the attachments I have submitted but they have some additional questions and that they are seriously concerned about my application.

1. They are saying that I haven't submitted any evidence of a college degree or any other professional training as a interior designer. - This is true because I couldn't afford to move to Canada and get a part time job and pay for additional training at the same time, but I have gained a lot of experience in this 2.5 years. My immigration consultant told me that as long I can prove that I have been working this job they will not ask for diploma, and now I got letter and they are asking exactly that.

2. They are saying that my salary, listed in my letter of employment, is far below the median earned for person in the interior design profession. - My salary was above the minimum and now is more than the median so I'm confused about this. I got the information for the wages from the Job Bank website.

Does anyone have any experience in a similar situation?

ANY ADVICE WILL HELP - THANKS

 

[Gurindar]

Procedural Fairness Letter as far I know is "When a visa officer is not satisfied that the applicant has demonstrated their ability to become economically established in Canada, the visa officer shall follow procedural fairness guidelines. The visa officer shall send a letter to the applicant, indicating that the information provided does not satisfy the officer of their ability to become economically established and they may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada. The letter should provide the applicant an opportunity to respond and provide additional support and documentation of their application/nomination."

In your case as you said you hold a Master Degree and Doing Interior Designer job which doesn't even come near to what ever qualification you hold, VO concern and raising eyebrows is quite obvious. You should have acquired some training to do a certain job. Rest **Spam** is saying that VO doesn't ask , that in general scenarios is True.

Moreover if you can't convince them about the above point , the point 2 mentioned by you even if you prove them will make minimal impact.

My advice is if somehow you can convince VO about your Job by getting a Recommendation Letter from your manager or any Diploma or Training you have achieved would can strengthen your case.

Its my view of Looking at things , Request Seniors to Advice query made by the person above , Best of Luck my friend.

 

[LPS]

Although these are not strictly pass/fail requirements for CEC, we have indeed seen people refused who claimed work experience that was not commensurate to their salary, education, or employment history. It appeared to the VO that the work experience belonged to some lower-skilled occupation instead (NOC C or D).

Is this a possible interpretation in your case? Could you tell us what duties you supplied in your application?

 

[ZingyDNA]

**spam** told me that as long I can prove that I have been working this job they will not ask for diploma, and now I got letter and they are asking exactly that.

What is this "spam" about? Is it something that got censored by this forum?

 

[Gurindar]

What is this "spam" about? Is it something that got censored by this forum?

May be the query poster want the spammer to be censored .

 

[lhyyym]

I have the same timeline with you, but no communication since AOR till now. :'(

 

[Hichaman]

Can I ask few weird questions? Is the employer a big or small company? is the employer the owner I mean, his/her nationality same as you? please let us know if that's Okay.

 

[Icda]

Can I ask few weird questions? Is the employer a big or small company? is the employer the owner I mean, his/her nationality same as you? please let us know if that's Okay.

It is small company. He is Canadian

 

[Icda]

Although these are not strictly pass/fail requirements for CEC, we have indeed seen people refused who claimed work experience that was not commensurate to their salary, education, or employment history. It appeared to the VO that the work experience belonged to some lower-skilled occupation instead (NOC C or D).

Is this a possible interpretation in your case? Could you tell us what duties you supplied in your application?

My duties are;

Consult with clients to determine needs, preferences, safety requirements and purpose of space
Develop detailed plans and 3-D models showing arrangement of walls, dividers and furniture/
Develop plans, elevations, cross sections and detailed drawings, and advise on selection of colours, finishes and materials, furniture and other items
Estimate costs and materials required

 

[Icda]

May be the query poster want the spammer to be censored .

I do not know what is that about... The word that I'm using is consultant

 

[juju211221]

I really don't know what your CIC officer is doing because your "consultant" is right.

OP25A, page 9 says : Note: The “Employment Requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description are not
applicable.

They should not ask you anything about your diploma/certificate.

About your salary, this could be the red flag for you because your salary was maybe not above the minimum wage for your profession AND area, which you can find here :

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/report-eng.do?area=9219&lang=eng&noc=5242&action=final&ln=n&regionKeyword=Toronto%2C+Ontario&s=1&source=0&titleKeyword=interior+designer#wages

It depends where your worked ... anyway, stay strong and never give up

 

[fenwick100]

I have similar concerns. I was an assistant bar manager at an independently owned restaurant. My wage was $11 per hour and the rest was made up through tips. I started at a level entry position and worked my way up. My only previous experience had been a supervisory role at a catering company in UK. I am concerned they may not deem this CEC worthy :/

Anyway good luck Icda

 

[Icda]

I really don't know what your CIC officer is doing because your "consultant" is right.

OP25A, page 9 says : Note: The “Employment Requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description are not
applicable.

They should not ask you anything about your diploma/certificate. (where can I find more info about that)

About your salary, this could be the red flag for you because your salary was maybe not above the minimum wage for your profession AND area, which you can find here :


It depends where your worked ... anyway, stay strong and never give up

My wage was above min. wage. I had $15, then $16 and now is even higher so I don't understand why they are mentioning that topic since min is $14.

Thank you for this info.

I'm planing to send recommendation letter from my owner and also from millwork which is installing our furniture following the designs that I did. I hope that will help. I will also add my new pay stubs since I got raise in March. Any other recommendation anyone?[/color]

 

[Icda]

I have similar concerns. I was an assistant bar manager at an independently owned restaurant. My wage was $11 per hour and the rest was made up through tips. I started at a level entry position and worked my way up. My only previous experience had been a supervisory role at a catering company in UK. I am concerned they may not deem this CEC worthy :/

Anyway good luck Icda

Thanks! Good luck to you too.

 

[juju211221]

cic should or, I want to say, MUST work with their bible : OP, and, in this case, OP25A.

here is the link for this

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op25a-eng.pdf

about your wage, this is really strange ... I think, you just got a bad luck on your officer ... after, your case is not over ... as you say, try to get a letter from your owner ( which say that your wage is kind of low for your position because X reason ... ) and everything should be okay , add your paystubs / t4 / noa to show them you want to be as clear as water.